MikieSWE Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 When experienced...? hmm.. When you can adapt yourself in most situations without jeopardize yourself so much. For me I couldnt stop properly at 50km of total km's. Not turn properly before 150km. Go gravel roads before 250km. That went on all the time... progress. A win for each step I got. I thought every time I am getting better and more experienced. Woohoo! Now at 1400km on my 16X I still feel 'not so experienced', but I have learned ADAPTATION towards my environment and situation. Still I can not make a clean and nice proper start. (I used support a lot, and I dont care) Cant go backwards, cant turn properly on a dime. I went havoc on a MTB trail and now in woods. Deadly fun! Hurt a me a lot. Still I dont care. I want more. (not hospital stuff tho) Then it struck me..... experienced? To what? comparing myself to others? Is there a proper line to pass? F... that. I have my style and I go by that. I will always be rookie in something, and better in something else. Thats me and I feel proud of that. Experienced in my own comfort. Handling an EUC properly and 'experienced' comes from adaptation to your surroundings. (Respect other fellow people on road, paths, etc.) Maybe everything is about attitude? I do not think I ever will be as experienced as I want, but also I will never stop working on it. haha! 🐱🚀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 8:47 PM, Justin Boivin said: Personally, I would say when you have the skills to ride well with whatever the road/situation brings. Can you: -Do a hard break if you have to? -Turn sharply? -Drop off curbs unexpected bumps and keep rolling? -Quickly react and avoid things in your path? -Mount/dismount quickly, with ease? -Adjust to different conditions (rain etc)? -Ride on different kinds of terrain? -Stop wobbles? -Never lose control of the wheel, or if you do, recover quickly? And if you want to consider yourself "among the best", I think you'd have to learn all the tricks and gimicks (riding backwards, on one leg etc etc). all of this and i would also add riding walking speed for an indefinite amount of time, being able to comfortably and easily shift your position/adjust your feet on the wheel while moving.. this proves that you are loose and comfortable while riding which is much safer than being stiff, be able to ride in a very straight line over a long period of time (as if riding beside someone on a bicycle on a narrow path), being able to ride at any speed in any position (crouched, sitting, bending down say to turn on lights or just touch your toes to stretch, standing tall), and lastly being able to ride for as long as the euc will stay on without muscle fatigue that leads to dangerous riding (wobbling)... i would say only once you have mastered all of these as well as the quoted could you be considered an advanced rider.... "not a rookie" just means being able to ride in most situations without losing control of the wheel, but thats far from what i would consider even a good rider. i do not feel things like being able to go backwards as contributing to being an advanced rider, as they serve no real practical use and are merely a fun way to screw around while bored, ive learned to do it but it does give me a sort of vertigo and i just get dizzy, not sure why.. its fun, but ultimately pretty useless.. unlike one legged riding which is a very useful skill that you will need to confidently shift your feet while moving. one more thing to add, is if you have fallen from the wheel for any reason within say six months it would revert your status to very good rider and not advanced as unless the wheel truly malfunctioned, its always your fault.. be it a pothole or whatever that merely means you werent paying as much attention as you should have been which is foolish, overconfidence is an enemy no matter your skill level.. having good foresight, spatial awareness and knowing the limits of ones self and by extension the wheel, and proving that are what make a truly advanced rider imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FinRider Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 I have to say I enjoyed reading this thread. I am a complete ”newbie”. Started playing with an airwheel and got myself a used ks16 to start learning on a ”real” euc. I love the list of what you need to master in order to progress and couldnt agree more with the additions from Rywokast. i only have some 50 km of real cycling under my belt but I notice a huge improvement for every hour i stay on top of the wheel. I have not dared to go out in trafic yet, but I am looking forward to it. It is encouraging and also reassuring to see how quickly the body adapts to the euc. I guess it was tje same for all of us when we learned to ride a bike but it has been eons ago for most of us so we dont remember the early struggles we had when the training wheels were on. i watched the video of the different riding styles and i hated it. Utter garbage imho, as it glorifies reckless driving. I admire skillful driverS, but disregard for public safety is just plain stupid. the beaty with the euc for me is how addicting it is and how few have dared to try to master this ”skill”. I switched to a plugin hybrid car for environmental reasons and now I have progressed to all electric euc with the intent to replace my 22 km commute to the euc when weather permits. The next step will be to replace my summer car (bmw z3 convertible) with a bigger, better euc 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 yes, skillful recklessness.. aka being a jackass, is not a status anyone should try to achieve... wherever you ride, you follow the rules of all other vehicles there.. and if you are riding around people you should not exceed a brisk walking pace.. this falls under the overconfidence category, whether or not YOU have the skill to do so, you clearly lack the foresight that people and cars can behave unpredictably, and putting yourself in danger is bad enough, but putting others in danger is never acceptable 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Just surpassed 200 miles and I still feel like a rookie. I would say 500 miles perhaps? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Mookie said: Just surpassed 200 miles and I still feel like a rookie. I would say 500 miles perhaps? 500 miles,, thats like a weeks riding i still see as people with 5000 as relative beginners 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetricUSA Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) When you have not fallen because of something stupid for 30 days in a row... Edited May 11, 2020 by MetricUSA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, MetricUSA said: When you have not fallen because of something stupid for 30 days in a row... That's how I'll know when I'm dead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reeves Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 An interesting read as someone who is waiting to get back to learning on my brand new first wheel after my heart attack However the talk about over confidence struck a cord, when I used to fly paragliders the accident rate went up among people who had passed their club pilot level and again among those who passed their pilot level, and the assumption was over confidence among these people leading to poor decision making 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M640x Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 I'm always attempting to learn new skills and honing them once I learn them. I started feeling a little comfortable at approximately 150 miles. Very comfortable at 350 miles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kim Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 6500+ miles in about a year of EUC riding, I don't think I'll ever be a "pro" as I'm always tinkering to improve every day; I can't go backwards, but I can have some fun at a skate park on my Mten3! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLEASE_DELETE Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Deleted. Edited March 18 by PLEASE_DELETE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 you will not be a rookie when you can ride any wheel on the market like yours, immediately of course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lirva Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Around 1000kms I started to feel comfortable in city riding. Around 3000kms can go backwards a little and slow riding is easier. Also surprise potholes don't end up in faceplant anymore. But still I feel there is so much more to master. More Offroad, pumptracks skateparks, jumping etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 8 hours ago, /Dev/Null said: I just hit 600 miles after 15 months or so.... you need to pump up those numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLEASE_DELETE Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Deleted. Edited March 18 by PLEASE_DELETE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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