NOSFET APEX-01

[Frolic0415]

[Rawnei]

12 minutes ago, Frolic0415 said:

Doesn't work like that, it's dependent on the lens used or if they use StVZO standard to bounce the light.

[bpong]

more of the same old, same old, marketing hype that the euc community sees every season.  if this new euc manufacturer wanted to showcase bits and pieces of their upcoming new euc,  perhaps providing a set of pedals built similar to nylonove or the erides aluminum pedals would have provided the euc community a valid reason to welcome this 'new' manufacturer.  instead,  this 'bit' is no different than what people replace on some of their rides.  there will be more reactions to these 'pedals'.

i just cant wait what the APEX-01 looks like amidst this continuous drum roll intro...

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

7 hours ago, Frolic0415 said:

 

6 hours ago, techyiam said:

This image is worth a thousand words.

Yes, and unfortunately not in a positive way!

 

58 minutes ago, bpong said:

more of the same old, marketing hype that the euc community sees every season.  if this new euc manufacturer wanted to showcase bits and pieces of their upcoming new euc,  perhaps providing a set of pedals built similar to nylonove or the erides aluminum pedals would have provided the euc community a valid reason to welcome this 'new' manufacturer.  instead,  this 'bit' is no different than what people replace on some of their rides.  there will be more reactions to these 'pedals'.

After I saw this POS pedal my interest in this wheel dropped from 100 to 10% or less.

What else can you expect if this new company already fails completely in the selection/manufacture of the pedals? smh

Edited Monday at 04:22 PM by EUC Custom Power-Pads

[Bizra6ot]

Like others, I don't understand this choice of pedal design
I mean Nosfet is sold as “made by riders for riders”, then the pedals come with the 2 major IM/LK flaws reported by users: the raised parts (U-shapes things idky if it's for stiffness put them on the other side) and the molded studs??

What works is simple, flat honneycomb pedals with screw-on studs

[bpong]

whatever they are posting is not helping their promotion.  i find it strange that they cannot understand this.  the pedals on the lynx were a joke;  and they charged such a high price on this  euc.  i wonder what else nosfet will release for our viewing...  depending on what it depicts,  i sincerely hope it can put their wheel in a more positive light...

[Asphalt]

3 hours ago, Rawnei said:

With 8 beefy bolts spread out over a large area to spread the stress I don't feel it's a problem.

https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/33861-inmotion-v12-pedal-snap/

https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/34554-begode-extreme-review-off-road-thrills-durability-insights/

https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/31824-v13-first-batch-defect-motor-screws-breaking-in-shear/#comment-461662

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectricUnicycle/comments/wwhzbz/i_keep_losing_screws_on_v12_pedal_hangers/

 

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Right. They should use nails instead. 

Axles, pedal rods, and carry handles are in the horizontal plane. I think they bend or break more often.

What would you do differently?

Ideally, the parts should be designed so that vertical loads are carried by the parts, instead of the screws - particularly for areas with frequent load cycles, prone to fatigue. Screws should be used for their tensile strength rather than shear strength.
If a fastener must be used in the vertical shear plane, then the shearing force should be applied to the shank part of a bolt.

[Rawnei]

32 minutes ago, Asphalt said:

https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/33861-inmotion-v12-pedal-snap/

https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/34554-begode-extreme-review-off-road-thrills-durability-insights/

https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/31824-v13-first-batch-defect-motor-screws-breaking-in-shear/#comment-461662

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectricUnicycle/comments/wwhzbz/i_keep_losing_screws_on_v12_pedal_hangers/

 

Ideally, the parts should be designed so that vertical loads are carried by the parts, instead of the screws - particularly for areas with frequent load cycles, prone to fatigue. Screws should be used for their tensile strength rather than shear strength.
If a fastener must be used in the vertical shear plane, then the shearing force should be applied to the shank part of a bolt.

You missed the part where I wrote spread out over a large area.

[Funky]

If nothing more - it will be lesser variant of Leaperkim. Same time maybe better build quality than Begode.. Somewhere in middle?

And the people who made Apex are riders..  Don't joke. If you can't make decent pedals - the simplest part on EUC aside of Trolley/Carry handle. You already Failed. (Or they know people will change them anyways.. So no points trying to make something decent???)

Sorry - Not sorry. I'm saying how things are.  Same Ol Same Ol - Hype over nothing. This wheel will not be anything amazing. Same thing as we already have on market, only new look/name.

 

Let me guess - next photo you will have built in power pads? Let me tell you something - Real riders want flats sides, so they can add their own power pads.. Have this new EUC maker done any homework about wheels and what people want? Pedals having removable studs are number one by long shot. 

Edited Monday at 05:03 PM by Funky

[InfiniteWheelie]

Those pedals look bad. Very small looking and no proper removable studs. Those little nubs (which already suck) are probably going to be useless because of those raised ridges.

I’m also not happy to hear it’ll be a linkage suspension. In my opinion coil forks are the clear winner for their low friction, simplicity, longevity, crash protection etc. Linkage seems like a step backwards to me.

Edited Monday at 05:41 PM by InfiniteWheelie

[litewave]

Waaah, my size 18 feet are too big for the tiny pedals....

Waaah, the studs are too big and will hurt my toes ....

Waaah, I can't install my favorite vibrator ....

etc., etc., etc.....

[Aztek]

1 minute ago, litewave said:

Waaah, my size 18 feet are too big for the tiny pedals....

Waaah, the studs are too big and will hurt my toes ....

Waaah, I can't install my favorite vibrator ....

etc., etc., etc.....

Actually, small, slippery pedals have been the plague on EUCs up until recently. I though we've grown up this phase.

We're expecting this wheel to be next level, not the previous.

[litewave]

1 minute ago, Aztek said:

Actually, small, slippery pedals have been the plague on EUCs up until recently. I though we've grown up this phase.

We're expecting this wheel to be next level, not the previous.

Just source and install whatever pedals you like. There have been several options for years.

No need to nitpick every new wheel before we know all the details or at least a prototype appears in the wild.

 

 

[Aztek]

Just now, litewave said:

No need to nitpick every new wheel before we know all the details or at least a prototype appears in the wild.

Actually, this thread is made exactly to do this: nitpicking the new upcoming wheel before we have the full info. 😂

It is such by design, with the expectation of the wheel creators as well.

[Funky]

Even Begode can make better pedals, aside of wheels themselves..

Beats the point of buying it. If first thing we need to do is buy different pedals.. They should give us option to buy wheel without pedals then.

Edited Monday at 06:19 PM by Funky

[litewave]

1 minute ago, Aztek said:

Actually, this thread is made exactly to do this: nitpicking the new upcoming wheel before we have the full info. 😂

It is such by design, with the expectation of the wheel creators as well.

Maybe @Ronin (the thread originator) should speak for himself. I think he takes a more balanced and constructive approach in his reviews.

Perhaps the word "nitpick" was too kind. I really meant "whine".

[Aztek]

7 minutes ago, litewave said:

Perhaps the word "nitpick" was too kind. I really meant "whine".

Don't know... The more you complain, the less I like the pedals... Curious psychological effect 😂

[Funky]

Whining and Calling out Facts are different..

Crying about wheels color - that would be wining. Crying about wheel weight - that's winning. But talking about pedals that have milled studs instead removable ones - that's not winning, that's an actual disadvantage. And worse quality product. Every single wheel whit these types of pedals - user often change them to aftermarket ones. Just showing how bad the original pedals are. Why would we need to change anything on wheel - those pedals should be made right in fist place. 

They call themselves EUC riders.. (The company makers.) But misses the most basic things - removable studs on pedals and being big enough. Yes these pedals will be usable.. But they could been better. As most serious riders will install aftermarket pedals..

Edited Monday at 06:32 PM by Funky

[litewave]

15 minutes ago, Funky said:

Whining and Calling out Facts are different..

Crying about wheels color - that would be wining. Crying about wheel weight - that's winning. But talking about pedals that have milled studs instead removable ones - that's not winning, that's an actual disadvantage. And worse quality product. Every single wheel whit these types of pedals - user often change them to aftermarket ones. Just showing how bad the original pedals are. Why would we need to change anything on wheel - those pedals should be made right in fist place. 

They call themselves EUC riders.. (The company makers.) But misses the most basic things - removable studs on pedals and being big enough. Yes these pedals will be usable.. But they could been better. As most serious riders will install aftermarket pedals..

Do you have aftermarket pedals on your 18XL?

[Funky]

22 minutes ago, litewave said:

Do you have aftermarket pedals on your 18XL?

If you read my signature under each post - Yup. Because original ones where stupid. I bought pedals the same time i bough my wheel. (Because i knew i want/need them.) They where 250$.

250$ that should not have been needed to spend - if manufacturer made right kind of pedals. 2023 version wheels now come with honeycomb pedals - which are way better than flat grip-tape ones, that my wheel had.

If i had bought 2023 version wheel - i would not have needed the 250$ pedals.

I have even thought about spending extra and buying nylonove. But i won't - because i want whole new wheel..

Edited Monday at 07:11 PM by Funky

[litewave]

41 minutes ago, Funky said:

If you read my signature under each post - Yup. Because original ones where stupid. I bought pedals the same time i bough my wheel. (Because i knew i want/need them.) They where 250$.

Whatever, but glad you found some that work for you.

Sorry, but the extra info exceeds my bandwidth. 

[Funky]

1 minute ago, litewave said:

Whatever, but glad you found some that work for you.

Sorry, but the extra info exceeds my bandwidth. 

Dam you missed one checkbox.. So close!

[Rawnei]

1 hour ago, litewave said:

Just source and install whatever pedals you like. There have been several options for years.

No need to nitpick every new wheel before we know all the details or at least a prototype appears in the wild.

 

 

I think it's a rather easy problem for the manufacturer to solve so the customer don't need to spend extra money on new pedals.

Personally I solve it with 3D printed overlay instead of spending all that money in vain.

[Skampster]

Especially when it’s over $400au shipped for e-rides pedals which three of my wheels have/needed. 

[Ronin]

3 hours ago, litewave said:

Maybe @Ronin (the thread originator) should speak for himself. I think he takes a more balanced and constructive approach in his reviews.

Perhaps the word "nitpick" was too kind. I really meant "whine".

Riders are free to express their opinions (good or bad) in this thread. The wheel and company clearly trigger interest. The pedals aren't great looking tbh, as a matter of fact every LK pedal has hurt my feet so much, especially the Patton ones. These look close to the Patton pedals. The pedal picture gives also a glimpse of the shell, or at least, the batteries, very begode looking. That being said, i posted on the FB group that i'll wait to test the wheel before taking any extreme conclusions about this EUC, especially since these specs just seem to indicate "Lynx recycle" (Lynx, Griffin, F22, APEX, "same same but different but still the same"). A "Lynx recycle" would not necessarily be bad. But its best to wait and see, the ride feel will determine everything, imo of course. Seeing the wheel in action will be more effective than Kingsong style teasers, hopefully soon.

Edited Monday at 09:39 PM by Ronin