rebeuc Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Josiah said: Set air to 200 psi. I weigh 170 lbs still bottoming out though as you mentioned before. That does not seem right unless you are doing VERY steep drops. Any chance you have one or more pistons that is losing air, such as due to this issue? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josiah Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, rebeuc said: That does not seem right unless you are doing VERY steep drops. Thanks for the heads up. I will check. Edited March 25, 2023 by Josiah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Josiah said: Set air to 200 psi. I weigh 170 lbs still bottoming out though as you mentioned before. If you are jumping like we saw in the video then you probably want like 210psi or more, i could bottom out at 180 hitting a 2' drop or so but that pressure absorbs the small stuff without being too stiff. I'm not doing massive jumps with it so i like it on the softer side. Also that bike picture was just an example of what we used to do, it wasn't mine. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 I’m having a bit off a hard time believing that all you guys are actually bottoming out the V13 shocks. For example I know @novazeus to be a rather calm rider. I used max 150/70 psi on the stock shocks of my V11 (near identical air spring units to the V13 ones), and I never felt it bottoming out even on 1 foot drops. I weigh 105kg + gear = 250 lbs. Or are you perhaps riding completely stiff legged? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulson Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 My riding weight is around 225 lbs, shock PSI at 200, and I have not bottomed out the V13 either. Something doesn't seem right 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, mrelwood said: I’m having a bit off a hard time believing that all you guys are actually bottoming out the V13 shocks. For example I know @novazeus to be a rather calm rider. I used max 150/70 psi on the stock shocks of my V11 (near identical air spring units to the V13 ones), and I never felt it bottoming out even on 1 foot drops. I weigh 105kg + gear = 250 lbs. Or are you perhaps riding completely stiff legged? stiff legged or not, it's my feet taking a beating. i'll try lowering the pressure and see if that's more cushy. and i run a much higher tire pressure than u do. Edited March 25, 2023 by novazeus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, soulson said: shock PSI at 200, and I have not bottomed out the V13 either. Something doesn't seem right You probably aren't doing this with it like @Josiahis though. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Josiah Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) On 3/25/2023 at 11:32 AM, Punxatawneyjoe said: softer side I think this helps on the big jumps too. If I land right there is almost no impact. Most of the jumps we got on that video I was landing wrong. That was my first day and I still haven’t been back yet, but I plan to go back as soon as my hips heels back into place. I’m back at 75% feeling normal. Edited March 27, 2023 by Josiah 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 very windy today which made my practice more challenging and enjoyable. 30 miles on 28% battery(without power pads or spikes on the pedals, it's a miracle)that's the longest ride for me yet i think. i did stop once to drop the shock pressure down to 125psi. started at 150psi for the first 10 miles. i had been riding it at 175psi. two turns clockwise from no dampening seems to work ok. i do think the lower pressure makes it a little more cushy, although tmrw, i'm gonna pump it up to 200psi and see what that feels like i just have craters, depressions and tree roots to deal with, no potholes or curbs. and i wore my cushy insoled van's loafers today instead of the typical thin soled van's. i peeled off all the warning labels, and my seat, which i'll never use actually fits perfectly yesterday. today.(my phone disconnected) looking good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) i think these early range tests, dissing on the v13 are baloney and very unscientific. u gotta range test on flat ground. obviously with the heaviness of the v13, driving it up a mountain is gonna consume more energy than a lighter wheel. why lightweight cars get better mileage than a one ton dooley. duh! and the stock v13 probably has the highest rolling resistant tire ever put on a wheel. maybe that's the problem, and knowing typical wheel riders, probably underinflated with a gallon of slime in it. i bet i can go 50 miles on 50% battery. how much range do u need? ur feet are gonna ache after 50 miles, i guarantee it. i'm probably averaging 20mph when u deduct for me stopping every 2200'. Edited March 26, 2023 by novazeus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 could someone explain to me what "adjust the gap between slide rails" is? what am i suppose to be looking at, gap wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, novazeus said: could someone explain to me what "adjust the gap between slide rails" is? At 12:28 you can see the sliders and the adjustment, basically the more you tighten the screw the more the sliders push into the slide. It's to take up any play that you may have forward and back on the rails. If you turn the wheel on and push it forward and back and see no play in the slides then you shouldn't need to adjust it. Edited March 26, 2023 by Punxatawneyjoe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 i thought it was heavier than 110 pounds. maybe the street tire weighs more than the knobby. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Punxatawneyjoe Posted March 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, novazeus said: maybe the street tire weighs more than the knobby. My guess is 7 pounds of yoga mats... 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Just now, Punxatawneyjoe said: My guess is 7 pounds of yoga mats... and the seat. and orange duct tape is heavy as well. i mean i'm use to tossing 50 pound bags of feed, but i brought out my old motorcycle ramp for getting this beast up into the container. i can pick it, but not fun. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, novazeus said: i can pick it, but not fun. Agreed, it's a beast. But nothing seems more planted at speed and if you use the holes in the pedal to grab it low it helps out a bit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 wow, this shit is getting old fast. first error 27 on the s22 and now this after charging. this is the v13.battery readings are fine btw. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted March 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, novazeus said: battery readings are fine btw. If that error ever comes up again (it sometimes shows up once when the wheel is new and never returns), take a screenshot on the exact pack and cell group voltages. I’d check that you’re running the latest firmware. Edited March 26, 2023 by mrelwood 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeuc Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 So this is fun. The same wheel that had been with ThaBlackCobra earlier where it was found that the shocks were removed and forced back in with cross-threading is now with another reviewer, who promptly had the shock fall out. Of course this is no fault of the wheel, but if you just watch this video you would have a very bad impression: For context here's the video from ThaBlackCobra where the suspension is being removed and the cross-threading is mentioned; I forget who had the wheel before him which is where the issue likely began. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevebee Posted March 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, rebeuc said: So this is fun. The same wheel that had been with ThaBlackCobra earlier where it was found that the shocks were removed and forced back in with cross-threading is now with another reviewer, who promptly had the shock fall out. Of course this is no fault of the wheel, but if you just watch this video you would have a very bad impression: For context here's the video from ThaBlackCobra where the suspension is being removed and the cross-threading is mentioned; I forget who had the wheel before him which is where the issue likely began. I find it odd that a lot of these YT reviewers fail to mention that the wheel was with other reviewers before and detail the history of known issues with that specific wheel. Same thing with the wheel Marty had. Over torqued the top suspension which broke it and was never fixed before being passed around other reviewers, many complained about the suspension doh. That’s why I am selective about which YTers I put most faith in 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Punxatawneyjoe Posted March 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2023 4 hours ago, rebeuc said: Of course this is no fault of the wheel, but if you just watch this video you would have a very bad impression: Agreed, what i can't believe is that the reviewer pounded it back in with a sledge and actually felt it was safe to ride again. Can you imagine doing 50 and the shock tube falls down onto the pavement. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chucka Wheelie Posted March 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2023 7 hours ago, novazeus said: wow, this shit is getting old fast. first error 27 on the s22 and now this after charging. this is the v13.battery readings are fine btw. This happened to me as well. It's actually linked to the Bluetooth and its connection to the inmotion app. If you turn off the wheel and don't shut down the app (as in close the app completely on your phone) the wheel will still stay connected to the app. When you turn the wheel back on it'll register as not having been shut down completely as it was still connected hence giving you this error. inMotion still has a few bugs to work out with the new version of their app. Either shutdown the app or disconnect the wheel in the app before turning off the wheel (option three is to just walk far enough away from your wheel for the wheel to disconnect from your phone). If you look in the back wheel well, you will see a green pulsing light which is the Bluetooth connection indicator, which will stop pulsing when there's no longer a Bluetooth connection. Hope this helps. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 6 hours ago, mrelwood said: If that error ever comes up again (it sometimes shows up once when the wheel is new and never returns), take a screenshot on the exact pack and cell group voltages. I’d check that you’re running the latest firmware. it's on the latest firmware and the batteries were all perfect. kinda scary warning because the lady said something and then a message to call my reseller, etc. this morning seems to be fine. i think @Chucka Wheelieis correct. this is shades of the s18 staying on after charging. i guess turning off the app first and then the wheel is the correct procedure. that's how i've been doing it. i'd take a screen shot after riding and then turn off the phone, then turn off the wheel. since the wheel was inside with me, it does make for an uneasy rest. i was calculating how quick i could drag it outside in case it started smoking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucka Wheelie Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, novazeus said: i guess turning off the app first and then the wheel is the correct procedure. Ever since making sure I shutdown the app before the wheel or disconnecting the wheel in-app first, I haven't received this error message again. Wow... I've typed "app" way too many times in my last two posts. sheesh. ... app. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucka Wheelie Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, novazeus said: since the wheel was inside with me, it does make for an uneasy rest. i was calculating how quick i could drag it outside in case it started smoking. I wouldn't loose too much sleep mate... Of all the PEV manufacturers out there, inMotion is the one company I worry about the least. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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