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Let's assume a 168V wheel will exist in few months. As a rider, do you really feel you need bigger voltage than the existing wheels (126V, 134V for instance) ? I have a Master and for my usage I find it more than powerful enough. I also love how the EX30 behaves. So, I don't need more voltage. Bigger Voltage probably can raise the max speed but I'm not a speed daemon. A little bit more than 50 km/h is a comfortable cruising speed for me. For example both wheels mentioned here above handle these speeds for a long time really safely in my view. Today, I'm more interested in lighter cells but it is not wheel manufacturers business. I would be really happy with a wheel with the same weight as current wheels but with a twice range for example but it is not for tomorrow I guess ;-) I can understand that racers need more max speed, always more torque, etc... Perhaps, heavier riders are not happy with C38/C40 motored wheels with 134V.

Yes, we all have this issue. I have asked to Milli. She asked to a Begode engineer but they seem not to be aware of this problem. My reseller have also noticed it many times. So I think at this time there is nothing else to do. Let's say firmware 903 seems to work fine. It is just annoying to see that we cannot install the only firmware available on the begode store which should suit to our wheels.

Yes. I think many people have experienced the same thing and not only with the Master.

I have exactly the same "problem". I think that the main problem is that I cannot upgrade from GW2014903 to GW2014904. CF2014903 is based on GW2014903 and CF2014904 is based on FW2014904. I don't know if it is worth it to upgrade the firwmare but as GW2014904 is the unique firmware published on begode store for our version of Master it seems just sane to think that this is the finalized version of the firwmare for our wheels. This is frustrating and I wonder if my wheel is a beta-version or there is something wrong with my wheel or whatever bad thing with a beta firmware version. Not very reassuring...

Except for the waterproofing, why the A2 may be better than the MCM5v2 ? Is the MCM5v2 still produced ?

Yes, you can use the master like it is. But after riding the first time the EX30 you can immediately feel that the center of gravity is lower than on the master and you understand there there is too much weight on the top of the master. The EX30 is far heavier than the master but the weight is more manageable on the EX30 and at high speed the EX30 is much more stable.

In my view, we have to be really careful about these powerful wheels when we ride at low battery. At low battery we still can access very easily to the power of the wheel so we approach rapidly the limit of the wheel. The probability to hit the limit of the wheel is much higher than on less powerful wheels. The fast responsiveness of the wheel at low battery is not always a good thing for our security. So it is wise not to run at low battery. But it may come we have to run at low battery, so it is key to ride as smoother as possible. We need to listen carefully to every beeps. We should respect any alarm that may be raised by the wheel or an application. We need to be focused on these alarms. Not the funniest experience of riding for sure...

No, these wheels are not set up similarly. They are just out of the box (The commander pro and the EX30). Of course, we can change many things with a power pads setting that suits to the rider. After that test, I changed the settings of the power pads on my master. I can brake stronger than before but it is not as powerful as the EX30 with no special settings for me. I have no picture of my session.

Now I have got the answer :-) Let me tell you more about it ;-) Today, I have tested again the Commander Pro and the EX30 during the test session (one wheel at a time ;-) ). I tested first the commander pro: It is really nimble and so nice to carve at slow speed. The commander is better that the master and the EX30. The EX30 is not so nimble at first sight. But we cannot handle these two wheels the same way. After few minutes on the EX30 I discovered a different way to carve at low speed. It is a little bit less pleasant than with the commander pro for me but it is also nimble and funny. When accelerating, the EX30 and the Commander Pro do not start accelerating as fast as the master but few seconds later they are all powerful. Braking: this a killer feature which makes me definitely prefer the EX30. The commander pro brakes a little less than the master. The EX30 brakes very strong !!! It is very impressive and very reassuring. Global stability at very low speed or at 0 km/h: The EX30 center of gravity is really slower than the master and the commander pro. It makes it just more stable naturally. In any situation where you feel unbalanced the EX30 is easier to handle. So, it was a very good test session. I've got the answer: EX30 is the winner.

A little more thing to add. These last days something came to my mind. If I have to make a choice now I would probably choose the EX30 for the following reasons. I already own a master. It is a better choice for riding in a city. So, the EX30/Commander-Pro is more for long range ride. The rear light (a security element) of the EX30 is much more efficient that the Commander Pro one.

I'm not sure to understand exactly what I have to understand with "trail" riding. I had not the opportunity to test these wheels for trail riding. I think it is wise to wait for reviews from people who can test these wheels for long time. We can see some reviews on the commander pro but we need wait for reviews on the EX30. I'm also waiting for these reviews. Anyway, I imagine that on dirt roads or grass with medium irregularities without the need to make too many agility gestures the EX30 will perform better (but the Commander Pro will be also very efficient and comfortable). But If we need more agilities for I don't know what reason the Commander Pro would be more relevant. Please do not rely too much on what I wrote since these are not based on an actual experience. I guess we could see more information from other riders within few days.

Very tough choice: Commander Pro is lighter, more nimble => easier to use in a city. EX30 is more stable especially for higher speed => more comfortable for long range ride. If you like seated riding the EX30 is far better (I like it just for fun so it is not a key feature for me) So I cannot say exactly which one I prefer. I like these 2 wheels. Globally both are definitely OK for me. Hard to say which one I prefer ...

I have tested the EX30 for 30 minutes. First of all, I recognize Master like feelings. It is more stable, more comfortable. I feel it planted to the ground. I've already tested de Commander Pro. There is something close to the commander pro too. I feel a nimble heavy wheel. It is very powerful. It is very pleasant to feel the weight lower than on the master. Definitely it is a very good wheel for long range and speed. It is nimble enough for city riding. It is quite natural to ride but everything require more effort than on the master or the commander pro. But as soon as it goes everything is so easy, smooth.. Hum, the braking is good but it requires a strong commitment (same thing with the master and the commander pro). With these big wheels the rider must adapt his way of riding. You cannot ride a EX30 like you ride a MCM5. The suspension is really better than the master suspension. I really enjoyed it. The stability of this machine is quite addictive.

Yes, it has been fixed by a firmware update. The firmware name is "Master v2". Begode gave the reseller this information after receiving the serial number of my wheel. So we can quite safely say that I really own a master v2. After this firmware upgrade, EUC World reports the same temperature as what we can read on the screen of the wheel; With the OG firmware, EUC World constantly reported 37 degree celcius

On my master batch2, the distance counter is blocked at 0999.9 (km). Any idea about how to solve this issue ?