Gaston Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Funny to see always the discussions on the switzerland changes. The EU is very clear stated in the CH regulations. Even if there's a 500 W EU it's not a Leicht-MoFa and also not a FÄG (human powered (skaters, kick scooter)).An EU is a sell balanced one wheel vehicle. So it needs typisation (done by the distributor) who hands out the vehicle papers. This is an very expensive (15-20k CHF) way to get the approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I am going to take my wheel to Lausanne soon -- do I need to worry about the police? From the discussion here it seem s the current rule is that I need to stay on bike-lanes (if possible) and that it is not legal to ride on pedestrian lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDL Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The Sempachersee Slow Up is coming up on Aug 23 and it runs right past my apartment. From the front page it looks like most EUCs should fall under the max specs for Ebikes. I emailed the organizers, but no reply yet. I am thinking of riding in it. Anyone else interested? The whole path looks like 24km, which might be just out of range. I've never pushed my NB1 to the max so I don't know. We could use my apartment as a recharge station if needed.http://www.slowup-sempachersee.ch/Anyone interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Rip Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I am going to take my wheel to Lausanne soon -- do I need to worry about the police? From the discussion here it seem s the current rule is that I need to stay on bike-lanes (if possible) and that it is not legal to ride on pedestrian lanes.If you got a engine below 500watts (nominal) you should be good, just stay on the side of the road or bike lane, not on the pedestrian sidewalk. Wherever Bikes are allowed you are too. Your EUC comes with lighting (front and back)? if not, its good to have your detachable lights with you, just in case. Theoretically you should have sort of a bell to warn pedestrians too, but if they insist on that, thats just harassment of foreigners that dont understand french (in lausanne at least). Also road-racing bikes dont need such a bell (its heavy y'know) so that point is very debatable, I think you can risk going without a finger-bell or similar. The Sempachersee Slow Up is coming up on Aug 23 and it runs right past my apartment. From the front page it looks like most EUCs should fall under the max specs for Ebikes. I emailed the organizers, but no reply yet. I am thinking of riding in it. Anyone else interested? The whole path looks like 24km, which might be just out of range. I've never pushed my NB1 to the max so I don't know. We could use my apartment as a recharge station if needed.http://www.slowup-sempachersee.ch/Anyone interested?Interested yes, but on that Weekend I am away in the Netherlands, with my bot of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 @Jag_Rip: Great -- thanks for the info. I guess it will be allright Allthough, the motor is rated at 1800W (!). However, I guess these caps in the law do not make sense and were meant for electric bicycles where wattage is used for speed. On a EUC all the power is mostly used just for balancing. Ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Rip Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 the nominal power is used, not the max. My 9B1 claims to have max 2000W but nominal its put at 500w. Their logic is, that you use the 500w to move around and the rest of it to balance so it actually doesnt count. So I guess all is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelz Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Funny to see always the discussions on the switzerland changes. The EU is very clear stated in the CH regulations. Even if there's a 500 W EU it's not a Leicht-MoFa and also not a FÄG (human powered (skaters, kick scooter)).An EU is a sell balanced one wheel vehicle. So it needs typisation (done by the distributor) who hands out the vehicle papers. This is an very expensive (15-20k CHF) way to get the approval.I wonder where u get that information from.. All my sources (linked already in here) state something different than you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Rip Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Crossed already two Policecars and both times the cops were smiling when they saw me on the bikelane. No Stops so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelz Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 And I was at a party with about 20 officers 2 weeks ago and they all told me they'd just take the wheel - to be on the safe side.. :/ Didn't meet any police yet on my commute - or I didn't see them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Good luck Just send you a mail regarding regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtom969 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hi all,another EU-driver from Switzerland. I saw one in Winterthur 5 weeks ago, got myself familiar in the internet - thanks to this forum as well - and spontaneously decided to order one directly in China. I have my IPS 130+ now for 2 weeks. I am pretty satisfied, needed much less training than expected. The wheel looks not very elegant, more like a traktor but it runs well. Of course, I cannot compare. Reach is about 12-13 km which is fine for me. Anybody else from Lenzburg or nearby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Rip Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 You might have seen me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Schon witzig, dass wir im "Swiss meetup" nicht deutsch reden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Rip Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Technisch gesehen müssten wir Deutsch, Italienisch, Französisch und Rumantsch reden, darum ist Englisch wahrscheinlich einfacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Rip Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Hab gestern den ersten Winterthurer Ninebotter getroffen.. im ALDI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenStuff Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Hab gestern den ersten Winterthurer Ninebotter getroffen.. im ALDI... May have been me... But i can not see your picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Rip Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 He's called Marco, and not on this forum, since he doesnt speak english. But I saw you on the leaderboard of the ninedroid app :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenStuff Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah, that was me with my old motherboard...Unfortunately it burned through using the 388Wh battery from 1radwerkstatt...Now I am riding a new E+ motherboard and had to start over with 0km... ;-(In total riding distance i have just reached the 2500km mark.To get back to the subject of this thread:If anyone near Zurich or Winterthur is interested in riding together, i would be willing to offer my experience as a guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverH Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah, that was me with my old motherboard...Unfortunately it burned through using the 388Wh battery from 1radwerkstatt...Now I am riding a new E+ motherboard and had to start over with 0km... ;-(In total riding distance i have just reached the 2500km mark.To get back to the subject of this thread:If anyone near Zurich or Winterthur is interested in riding together, i would be willing to offer my experience as a guide.Motherboard because auf 1.2.6 or really battery package. I know a guy in germany driving also the 1Radwerkstatt battery pack. He hasn't burned his moterboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenStuff Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I never had the 1.2.6, I'm still riding the 1.2.2.I am not really sure what broke the motherboard...I was riding on bike trails around Winterthur when i saw some pedestrians with dogs coming my way. I then went offroad onto the grass which was quite bumpy.After several meters on the grass, i just fell backwards and the motherboard was toast.It was my first ride with the new battery and i was using the E motherboard then.When i got the E+ motherboard as replacement everything worked fine again...But i don't get the *brrrrpip* sound anymore, it just stops working when I try to access full power... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverH Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Ninebot had released different boards with improved cooling for the Mosfets and slightly different design.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Rip Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 May have been me... But i can not see your picture... should be fixed... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelz Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 In the attachment the official police document regarding our wheels - got it from a friend working for Kantonspolizei ZH VP Trendfahrzeuge.pdf edit: didnt see that someone posted that a long time ago in another thread already..sorry I think I'll put my Kingsong up for sale soon. I'm not confortable riding an illegal device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverH Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Getting type approval should be possible in the future. We figured out 3 options how to realise redundancy on the motor. The setup of two mainboards to get redundancy for the control boards was defined. But there're manufacturers stating it's not possible. Whatever you do with your KS14, keep an eye on the developments happening and jump in when the solution is available as a product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee guy Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Just wondering, does anyone ride in Lausanne, Switzerland, say around Ouchy from time to time? Plenty of trails and relatively flat around the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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