o u euc 2 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 8 minutes ago, Robse said: In case of cruise control, you can not have 2 cruise controls working at same time. An EUC already has one cruise control, the rider. Yeah, ik. I do it every single day. They asked for brainstorming, so I was just trying to think of something new and different, and I do get a little tired of pushing for miles at a time, but no biggie. I still love euc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiiijojjo Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 13 minutes ago, o u euc 2 said: Yeah, ik. I do it every single day. They asked for brainstorming, so I was just trying to think of something new and different, and I do get a little tired of pushing for miles at a time, but no biggie. I still love euc. Don't take it personally, us oldheads are just tired of teaching the basics of EUC constantly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o u euc 2 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) 21 minutes ago, xiiijojjo said: Don't take it personally, us oldheads are just tired of teaching the basics of EUC constantly Yeah, let's stick to no brainers like making the tire easier to change. That's more practical. Solid, good light, USB ports, speakers, suspension, fast easy tire changes and all around Maintenance friendly💯 I like the idea of having a water tight plug between the motor and mother board for easier motor removal. Edited October 5 by o u euc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o u euc 2 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 15 hours ago, InfiniteWheelie said: Guys come on, cruise control obviously isn’t possible if you know anything about how e-wheels work. Like the same way tiltback is not possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 1 minute ago, o u euc 2 said: Like the same way tiltback is not possible? Not remotely the same thing, I will chime in with the rest and tell you it's a self-balancing vehicle and it only moves because rider is giving it input to sustain balance, if you want to make it easier to move forward then set a forward lean angle on the pedals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) In a car, the car's computer can alter throttle and braking, independently, without the driver's constant attentively real time inputs. On an euc, how can the controller moves the rider's CoG forward and backwards without the rider's involvement to accelerate or brake respectively in a controlled manner? Edited October 5 by techyiam 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollin-on-1 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 If Apex really wants to innovate, they could be the first EUC manufacturer to bring axial flux motors to the EUC market in a reliable and cost effective manner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMV Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 They can't afford to put on decent CNC pedals and you talking about axial flux motors.. Just making reliable, light and fast wheel with linkage system, not like begode has, is already a win. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel1234 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 On 9/24/2024 at 4:15 AM, NOSFET Electric Dreams said: I understand the pedals are not the most exciting thing of this wheel for some.... I am suprised you are not building hype up, and letting this be mistery. Lets hope you are too busy with design decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippyfeet Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 (edited) As we are on week #3 since the product has first been teased @NOSFET Electric Dreams could you reveal what distributors have received your samples? Edited October 7 by slippyfeet 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu2x Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 for me, a new wheel created by riders should have a rim that can be separated from the electric motor. I imagine that I would have a total of 3 rims for the wheel and on each of them a different tire, knobby road and winter. If necessary, the rim with a tire on it could be changed within 30 minutes. And if I can continue to dream, I would still like to have several adjustable driving modes in the application for the wheel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyverCanada Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 hours ago, lu2x said: I would have a total of 3 rims for the wheel and on each of them a different tire, knobby road and winter. That is an interesting idea... but the wheel contains the motor so not easy. So keep the motor on the wheel but unmount the rim at the spokes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 7 hours ago, lu2x said: for me, a new wheel created by riders should have a rim that can be separated from the electric motor. I imagine that I would have a total of 3 rims for the wheel and on each of them a different tire, knobby road and winter. If necessary, the rim with a tire on it could be changed within 30 minutes. And if I can continue to dream, I would still like to have several adjustable driving modes in the application for the wheel. Buy 3x motors - even faster change.. Problem? I seriously thought about buying second motor, so i could have 1x summer, 1x winter setup. No need to change tire, etc.. (I'm lazy) But yeah - this idea is alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 9 hours ago, lu2x said: for me, a new wheel created by riders should have a rim that can be separated from the electric motor. I imagine that I would have a total of 3 rims for the wheel and on each of them a different tire, knobby road and winter. If necessary, the rim with a tire on it could be changed within 30 minutes. And if I can continue to dream, I would still like to have several adjustable driving modes in the application for the wheel. Adam's (wrongway) friend Serge has done this so you could go DIY. You don't need different modes, just different diametre rims. Large for cruising/speed. Medium for normal and small for super torque. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmk Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Brilliant plan... and so, we arrive at the reason why so many EUCers end up owning multiple wheels. And zero changeover tinkering thrown in to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Still waiting for the Apex One launch. Or, has the Apex One been push back? Is it following the footsteps of the F22/Pro? One has to wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu2x Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 7 hours ago, MacGyverCanada said: That is an interesting idea... but the wheel contains the motor so not easy. So keep the motor on the wheel but unmount the rim at the spokes? exactly like that. The entire motor, including the stator, remains on the wheel. It would be enough to loosen a couple of screws that hold the rim to the engine and remove the entire rim with the tire. Next, I take the second rim with the mounted and inflated tire, tighten the screws. For example, on a lynx, removing the battery from the side where there is no cable to the engine and then changing the tire mounted on the rim would be the end for a few minutes. No more laborious and time-consuming tire changing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 They're not considering input given for things like pedals and mudguard so I think we can shelve the more advanced suggestions. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) Is it worth it? You will be increasing unsprung mass. Increase complexity and cost, and add another point of possible failure. Edited October 8 by techyiam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lu2x Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 11 minutes ago, Rawnei said: They're not considering input given for things like pedals and mudguard so I think we can shelve the more advanced suggestions. they certainly won't change anything on the wheel now that production is in full swing. I hope this will not be the last wheel from Nosfet and that our designs will be used for the next wheel. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztek Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 57 minutes ago, techyiam said: Is it worth it? You will be increasing unsprung mass. Increase complexity and cost, and a another add another point of possible failure. Exactly. Absolute no go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 7 hours ago, techyiam said: Is it worth it? You will be increasing unsprung mass. Increase complexity and cost, and add another point of possible failure. I could see it a benefit to cheaper fixes of a bend rim. And as suggested faster way to do a tyre swap with potential less risk of cable damage. The downside is how to avoid a unbalanced unit and avoid a gab between motor and rim. I doubt it would mean much of extra weight. It do also open up for a choice of more exotic rim material for aftermarket for those willing to spend more money to get less unspun mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 7 hours ago, Rawnei said: They're not considering input given for things like pedals and mudguard so I think we can shelve the more advanced suggestions. I think that is a fair point. I understand that for some mudguards matter not. But to me a bad design for something that is more for look than actual up to the task it should do is an odd choice. Imho do it right or don't do it at all. But a proper mudguard is not unreasonable feature of a 2025+ EUC in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Sure, those would be the main arguments from the proponents. Without an actual design to evaluate, I am not seeing a cost effective solution at the moment. I can literally drop the motor in about ten minutes on my S22. 6 hours ago, Unventor said: It do also open up for a choice of more exotic rim material for aftermarket for those willing to spend more money to get less unspun mass. People are already complaining about the cost of new wheels as is. If I were a manufacturer, I certainly would not be the first one to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizra6ot Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) FINALLY !!! Edited October 9 by Bizra6ot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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