kintips Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Hi Guys I just posted a video of the F22 up for preorder now $5300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonewantstobepeterchris Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 fuck that lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skampster Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 No KingSong is worth that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skampster Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 The Australian price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 35 minutes ago, Skampster said: The Australian price. What's the price for the Lynx on the same site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skampster Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 49 minutes ago, techyiam said: What's the price for the Lynx on the same site? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WheelGoodTime Posted September 18 Popular Post Share Posted September 18 Well, dealers tried to warn KS that at that price tag, they aren't going to generate much interest or sales. I guess they didn't listen. KS is charging dealers roughly the same price as LK charges dealers for Lynxes - therefore the asking price is likely going to be about the same as well unless a dealer is willing to sell for cheaper and lose some profit margin on the sale. While this EUC is better specced than the Lynx in many ways, the weight has killed nearly all interest in this EUC for the vast majority of the riding community. Any remaining interest in it has been killed by the long wait for this EUC after it was initially announced. By the looks of it, the F22 may be outdated by the time it finally gets into consumers' hands. Time will tell, maybe I'm wrong... but I doubt it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 19 minutes ago, WheelGoodTime said: By the looks of it, the F22 may be outdated by the time it finally gets into consumers' hands. Time will tell, maybe I'm wrong... but I doubt it. Maybe, may be not, depending on the buyer, IMO. Until the owners' reviews are out, it is still on the table for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhpr262 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) Holy shit that would be too expensive if the wheel had a 3.600Wh battery with 50S cells! Or even those crazy new Molicell batteries, not that you could even use that in a 3.600Wh battery. Edit: and the weight is simply ridiculous for a wheel without a fullsize 3.600Wh battery or larger. Edited September 18 by mhpr262 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 7 hours ago, kintips said: Hi Guys I just posted a video of the F22 up for preorder now $5300 So , 160km range from a 2738wh battery on a 5kw motor and 110lbs. I think not. 81mph "top speed" does this mean free spin? Hardly "the king of high performance". No IP rating? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintips Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 hours ago, Punxatawneyjoe said: So , 160km range from a 2738wh battery on a 5kw motor and 110lbs. I think not. 81mph "top speed" does this mean free spin? Hardly "the king of high performance". No IP rating? Yeah it doesn't mention anything with water proofing, no IP rating that i can see on the site. i think that 81mph is plausible top speed, you have the commander GT Pro going 71mph this has a 155volt wheel I'm curious if the 4 suspension system makes a difference. But i'm not $6000 curious (with Tax) that's crazy. I don't think this wheel will be nimble at all at this weight lol Also this thing is WIDE its 31.5 cm (12.4" INCHES), thats the length of a elementary school ruler, imagine that between your legs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 12 hours ago, mhpr262 said: Holy shit that would be too expensive if the wheel had a 3.600Wh battery with 50S cells! Or even those crazy new Molicell batteries, not that you could even use that in a 3.600Wh battery. Edit: and the weight is simply ridiculous for a wheel without a fullsize 3.600Wh battery or larger. I'm new. I thought 50S batteries were the rage. Is there a new Molicell battery that out performs the 50S? Still learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelGoodTime Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Maverick said: I'm new. I thought 50S batteries were the rage. Is there a new Molicell battery that out performs the 50S? Still learning. There are plenty of batteries that outperform the 50s, the problem is that in general, most of those batteries have a lower energy density. the 50S is a great mix of high performance and high energy density, and manufacturers have access to TONS of those cells Molicel p50b batteries have the same energy density as the 50S (5000mAh), but they are able to continuously discharge at 60A, as opposed to the 50s's 25a. The problem is that manufacturers are having trouble getting access to the necessary quantities of that. Furthermore, political tensions between China and Taiwan make it also troublesome to get enough of the battery cells that they need - Molicel is Taiwanese. P50B is the best option out there without a doubt, but there are a number of barriers that prevent EUC Manufacturers from being able to use them in their products. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 2 hours ago, WheelGoodTime said: There are plenty of batteries that outperform the 50s, the problem is that in general, most of those batteries have a lower energy density. the 50S is a great mix of high performance and high energy density, and manufacturers have access to TONS of those cells Molicel p50b batteries have the same energy density as the 50S (5000mAh), but they are able to continuously discharge at 60A, as opposed to the 50s's 25a. The problem is that manufacturers are having trouble getting access to the necessary quantities of that. Furthermore, political tensions between China and Taiwan make it also troublesome to get enough of the battery cells that they need - Molicel is Taiwanese. P50B is the best option out there without a doubt, but there are a number of barriers that prevent EUC Manufacturers from being able to use them in their products. WGT-Rob, you never disapoint. This helps so much. I read and read, but I doubt I'll ever attain your Doctorate level in EUCs. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 9 hours ago, kintips said: Also this thing is WIDE its 31.5 cm (12.4" INCHES) v13's, lynxes and s22 are around 8" and the s22 being slightly fatter, which i don't like. 12.4" sounds ridiculous. the v13 and lynxes are very comfy being slim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litewave Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, novazeus said: v13's, lynxes and s22 are around 8" and the s22 being slightly fatter, which i don't like. 12.4" sounds ridiculous. the v13 and lynxes are very comfy being slim. I have extra pads at the top edge of my battery boxes adding another 2" to the width. It took me a few weeks before I was comfortable on the S22. When I switched back to my MCM after four months, I needed one-two hours to ride it effortlessly again, but now I can switch between all my wheels as needed without thinking about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frolic0415 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 9 hours ago, WheelGoodTime said: There are plenty of batteries that outperform the 50s, the problem is that in general, most of those batteries have a lower energy density. the 50S is a great mix of high performance and high energy density, and manufacturers have access to TONS of those cells Molicel p50b batteries have the same energy density as the 50S (5000mAh), but they are able to continuously discharge at 60A, as opposed to the 50s's 25a. The problem is that manufacturers are having trouble getting access to the necessary quantities of that. Furthermore, political tensions between China and Taiwan make it also troublesome to get enough of the battery cells that they need - Molicel is Taiwanese. P50B is the best option out there without a doubt, but there are a number of barriers that prevent EUC Manufacturers from being able to use them in their products. Also the price, Molicel are a lot more expensive and thus the price of the wheel would be higher. 50S are the best price:performance battery currently on the market. Would be cool to see PEVs utilising the P50B though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintips Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, Frolic0415 said: Also the price, Molicel are a lot more expensive and thus the price of the wheel would be higher. 50S are the best price:performance battery currently on the market. Would be cool to see PEVs utilising the P50B though! is the only molicel EUC out there the Kingsong S18 (pro AKA molicel version)? i haven't heard of another EUC with molicel battery packs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippyfeet Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 9/18/2024 at 9:04 PM, kintips said: is the only molicel EUC out there the Kingsong S18 (pro AKA molicel version)? i haven't heard of another EUC with molicel battery packs Ewheels offered some Masters with P42 packs quite some time back. Their current stock of Nikola+ have Molicels as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsong EUC Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Here is the original Kingsong F22 specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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