Torq needed - MSP HT or Veteran Sherman?

[EUCstarter]

Hi at all,

i use since three months a MSP HS and i found more fun to drive slowly technical trials. But my HS make problems to climb out of a standing position. I need always a roll on with one meter and the climbing works.

So my question: what is my new Offroad Wheel, a MSP HT or a Sherman ?

Gotway change from MSP to RS but with  many problems. So i search for a MSP as a soldout.

But the difference is only 500€ to a sherman and i wish the best torq wheel to use. So is a lot off money and i don’t need every year a new wheel (at this moment 🤪).

What you mean which Wheel has more torq from the start up to low speed max 10kph?

My HS stay by me, for street and speed.

Thanks and Regards

[Ádám Szitás]

Hi,

I think you would be disappointed by both (especially the sherman), the MSP HT has more but you would barely notice it..

If you want to really feel more torque the best way is to go smaller diameter so your best bet would be the KS 16X, just my opinion and experience with the wheels.

[EUCstarter]

Hi Adam,

thanks for your post. Ok, thought there are noticeable differences.

[gon2fast]

MSP HT.

I have both wheels  - the torque of the MSP from stand still and while climbing is considerably stronger than the Sherman. 

Just now, gon2fast said:

MSP HT.

I have both wheels  - the torque of the MSP from stand still and while climbing is considerably stronger than the Sherman. 

 

[UniVehje]

Your problem is more about wheel geometry than motor. Use smaller wheel and attach pads. Pedal softness settings might help some also. If the wheel didn’t give in and you didn’t faceplant, you didn’t run out of torque. You just couldn’t lean enough. With powerpads it’s easier to lean and with smaller wheel diameter you don’t need to lean that much. I’m not saying there aren’t any differences between the Sherman and MSP but looking at torque ratings between those two to solve your climbing problem is not your main answer. 

[Peteshmete]

I have been on the sherman and i own an msp.....HUGE difference in torque(get off the line n go...) in favor of msp then as momentum comes into play sherman catches up n swoosh around 55 kph the msp rider will throttle back while the sheman guy can keep trying to torque(reasonably)....so if u want get up n go (go4msp) if u wanna get there faster and its far on long stretches (go4slightly bulkier Sherman)

msp: i am(was> 180lbs [85kg] and NEVER able to overpower it (make the wheel flinch)

sherman : same weight and faceplant if overleaned

Edited April 9, 2021 by Peteshmete

[mrelwood]

On 2/1/2021 at 11:34 AM, UniVehje said:

If the wheel didn’t give in and you didn’t faceplant, you didn’t run out of torque.

This is they key point that many people don’t understand. The maximum amount of available torque (announced rating) and the effort it requires to utilize are completely different aspects.

Like a gas pedal on a car, even the most powerful of cars accelerates slow if you can’t reach the gas pedal to press it far enough. A large wheel (18+”) is a long throw has pedal.

The firmware comes second. An immediate pedal response doesn’t assist at all in harnessing the power of the wheel, it requires the largest leans to accelerate. A softer mode, if made correctly, can assist in a way that requires less of purposeful leaning.

Edited April 9, 2021 by mrelwood