George Iliev

Another idea might be to build bigger plates asymmetrically. What I mean is (bear with me, writing from the phone) make a bigger surface plate for the break part on the top part of the wheel (somewhat perpendicular to the brake surface) and use the lower part of the wheel to build bigger plate for the jump/acceleration pad. If I were to use symbols to illustrate it something like this: L - for the acceleration lever and ¬ for the breaking surface

PS: I am looking at the model: why not smooth everything up? It seems like a rough edge to be near your ankle, and would look waay better without stepping it down, but rather beveling it. I tried smoothing things up, but there's some strange issue with the edging of the model - everything gets crooked and doesn't want to keep the bevel at that particular edge. Software acts like the 3d's broken or smth

I'm game to model it, we have a 3d design/viz studio, and I also have a prusa mk3s, so I can print also. What are you editing on? I was thinking of printing one for myself, but wanted to beer you up first

@NickNonsenseWhere can I send you a couple of euros for a beer dude? I think you deserve it

I just edited & printed a pedal opener for my 16x. Much simpler design, and no-brainer install.

@Harvey Pooka Anyone from eWheels... I saw the threads, and was wondering - is there any way to get a spare rim in Europe? I see that eWheels are only shipping in US so...

Can I please ask for the photos of KS16x equipped with those? I have one and would love to have a tpms gauge, but sadly your photos have been taken off the Apple cloud... @oliver

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I've decided to have a go at trying to repair it, and will use that thread to keep you guys posted. If it fails, I'll be buying a whole new motor. I was thinking about getting only the rim from eWheels, but after watching a bunch of videos about the rim removal, I decided against it, as price isn't that different from getting just the rim, and I'll have a spare motor laying around so... Isn't that much of a loss anyway. The method I'm going to try is with a local welder, to mechanically restore the shape (as good as possible, won't be aiming for absolute perfection) and then weld the snaps with argon. We'll see how it goes. I've seen those guys do magic with automotive rims, and I know them from my car tuning years, so... fingers crossed I'll keep posted here .

on the inside, after I removed the tyre:

Soooo here it is on the operating table... here's the culprit: aaaand... the damage on the outside:

You guys might be interested in my journey. Just wrote my 1200 km review bullet points: But yeah, pretty same, with yours...

Guess who's back? Back again... Back from a 32 kilometer offroad/onroad, gravel, mud, asphalt, hill and downhill ride with the 16x. >> https://euc.world/tour/591741649912250 So... My KingSong is around 1100-1200 kilometers now, and I have a couple of takeaways from my time with it: It still feels like a chinese piece of tech. it's engineering design, quality of materials and wobbliness and chinessnes (if that's a real word) of it make me distrust it in regards to water-proofness, durability and overall reliability. So far no problem with it, It's just a small voice in my head, saying to me: " 不要相信它。是中文。" It's much more nimble, than I previously thought of it, once you get the hang of it. Of course, nowhere near as nimble as the ninebot. it's really stable at speed, once you have your balance perfectly at "one with the wheel" the Chao Yang tyre is amazing - carving, speed driving (mind you, I never go over 40-42 km/h) the mudguard design is horridly, disastrously stupid. On my third one already. Getting on and getting off of it still urk me, and I think it's due to the weight and I don't trust it as much as my ninebot one s2 when "starting" on a crowded alley or smth. Probably would type more, but it's midnight and I'm tired after making a 30+ km trip. Let's discuss that maybe?

Yeah, I think China has a law against QA. Surely it seems that way when viewed from the outside. Would you imagine, right? - Could you ever imagine such a text even leaked to the general public in accordance to a new firmware of Galaxy S20 Samsung in example? Now can you imagine this firmware being pushed with notifications and the whole shebang - Update to the new flimsyware 2.0.2, patch notes - test test test. Absurd. Cheap. Chinese. It's a mockery and disrespect of a (highly) paying, early adopting, small-market customer. And if it continues, or they don't fix that behavior, soon, they will either remain a "custom" company or be non-existent soon (read 5-10 years here). Well... People ride Gotways here, and from what I hear they're made from melted down action mans and wrapped in tomato shipping cellophane. And build quality is not exactly right, as a description. I rant about the materials quality and selection. I rant about the construction design itself - there is not a single place inside the wheel, that has a honeycomb strengthening in it, it has large hollow parts, sidewalls are thin, screws are having their heads flattened after 2-3 unscrews - all of those are possible weak points during a hard fall, and just touching it feels like you're touching the playtoy of a 2-3 year old 20-25-30 years ago. I don't know if you recall the feeling to mind, or if I'm describing it properly, but it reminds me of my childhood, when we had toys inside snacks, and they were made from KingSong, apparently. The feeling of the wheel is cheap. It taps hollow, the plastic's transparent at places. The handle is solid itself, but when you pick the wheel up it moves and rattles around ever-so-slightly (*not during ride, so almost unnoticeable), but it's there. And it FEELS CHEAP AS FUCK. The build itself is solid. The wheel is heavy. It's not feeling like it will fall apart. If it's standing 1 meter away from you it will look like a tank. You won't notice anything loose or threatening (besides it's design). That's until you get up close. @buell47 has a guide about dustproofing your 16x and you'll see the gaps he's sealing in order to prevent dust. You'll see the headlamp design. And from what I read, gotway's worse. And I can't imagine how that's possible. The common belief is that KingSong is safe, well-built, and that's why I went with KS16x. If that's the top of the market, I'd steer clear of everything below that.

@WI_Hedgehog, I literally laughed out loud. But it's true they'd say it, which kinda makes it also sad. @Phong Vu.... IDK what to tell ya mate. First things first: I've never owned, seen or touched an Inmotion, so I can't comment on that in no way what-so-ever. And now on the question at hand about the 16x: Do I love the wheel - Oh, yes I do. Is it A LOT MORE of a wheel than the One S2? You can bet your ass it is. Is it as gracious, polished, refined and culturalized as it's European predecessor? OH, GOD NO! I've done my best to describe both materials and feeling of the two products in this thread, look for the long posts, but if I've had to summarize in a single sentence or two...: One S2 feels and reacts (for what it's made*) as a high-grade, high-price European tech product. It feels like holding a new Galaxy device - it's refined, great materials, and oozes classiness and astounding build quality. The design (looking back at it now, 1.5-2 years later) probably looks a bit dated (LEDS especailly) when looked at up close, but while you're riding it, or encountering it on the streets it looks like a thing from the future - minimalistic, pure and... well, classy. Low key, but high-tech and classy. It had the same depth of it's white color as my Audi A5 S-line, which I liked ALOT. They seemed like they were a kit, and when you take it out of the trunk most of the people stared Now about the Chinese rebel. Well, that's it. It is a rebel. It feels like a rebel. Feels like a bully, that spent a couple of years in a correctional facility, never got a good education or the better-high-school-or-college treatment and is not university smart, but IS street smart. It's not a white-collar device. Nothing about it "feels" low-key. It's big, heavy, huffs and puffs, and if I had to imagine both of those devices like people, The One S2 would be an average-looking hipster-y 20-something y.o., that has an iPhone, dresses lively and with upper-class shirts and sneakers, lives and works @ some flashy tech-giants office, working off from an expensive office, but is rather cowardly, and has never taken a single risk in his life bigger than not wearing his sunglasses on the morning starbucks-coffee run. KS16x on the other hand is a rather broad-shouldered bully, dressed in cheap, worn out and teared in places jeans, with an old rocker leather jacket, making a living off of reselling cars and hand-watches of questionable origins. With fluff dice and a CD hanging on a chain from the rear-view mirror. He'll have a 2-3 y.o. rooted android device, with cracked screen and pirated Cooked ROM installed. If you're the kind of employer that can influence him, he will (do his best to) follow you, and maybe try to be more civilized in order not to embarrass you in public, but will not always succeed in doing so. On the other hand, if you ask him to show you some fun time, oh god you'll have a blast that night. It'll not be especially (or at all) safe, you will feel un-secure, the situation will not (always) be in your control but you'll be grinning (most of the time, that is. In the other times you'll be saying really fast "...oh-shit-oh-shit-oh-shit-oh-shit..."). I aimed for a short description but I guess I blew it, didn't I? Long story short - it's cheap. It has poor engineering design and horrid construction-stress optimization. It has ABSURDLY CRAPPY oem software. It has HORRID documentation, support, manufacturer feedback/documentation (they released a firmware with notes " test test test" <- and that was the whole text, and their firmwares are always looked at with more than a grain of salt, because nobody knows - are they stable? Is it a beta? Nobody knooowss...), etc, etc .... And I love it. The one thing that bugs me the most amongst all others is that I don't trust it in rain. A KingSong representative, when asked by me if the wheel is water-resistant or at least - weather resistant, replied, and I quote: "Safe in rain. Maybe not heavy rain not know medium rain where you live home, but rain is safe except some rain. Here a video of how we test riders riding in river with it for short time. [ video is 5 sec long, people making a circle in an feet-finger deep puddle ]. See? Water safe, but don't ride in heavy rain. Heavy, force rain not recommended". As I said - it's pretty chinese mate.