MacGyverCanada Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 If it's UL testing then the timeline is probably out of their hands... and failure might require some redesign. So I can understand the delay, if so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkyu Kyu Kyu Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Some reliable sources said that the E25 is only 22kg/48lbs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 "redesign" They gonna dab some silicone like in good old days, Just now, Merkyu Kyu Kyu said: Some reliable sources said that the E25 is only 22kg/48lbs Now it needs to be at least 40kph fast. And have 16" wheel. Or at least 14x3.5" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoloco Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Merkyu Kyu Kyu said: Some reliable sources said that the E25 is only 22kg/48lbs That sounds good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 14 hours ago, Manoloco said: That sounds good... How can 22Kg wheel sound good if we compared it with the Falcon (25Kg)? What is the charging voltage and battery capacity of this wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frolic0415 Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 20 hours ago, Funky said: Anyways let's keep topic alive. Why? If there's no news there's no need to have every thread spammed and filled with wishes for lightweight wheels and speculation just for the sake of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyverCanada Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Yeah we're well past the point of influencing design choices on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) On 9/14/2024 at 1:58 PM, Frolic0415 said: Why? If there's no news there's no need to have every thread spammed and filled with wishes for lightweight wheels and speculation just for the sake of it. Says you. I'll do my thing. You do you. Also now we know it's ~22kg. Otherwise he may have not mentioned that... In my book that's something new - that we didn't know beforehand. So..? And again here we go with "every tread" are you sure about that? Aside of Falcon tread and 2 Inmotions treads (At this moment..) I'm rarely if ever seen on those "big wheel" treads, if ever.. So get bent with your every tread logic. Spamming every tread.. You're spamming right now in this tread qq about me. Spoiler No hard feelings. Just bored and having some fun. <3 On 9/14/2024 at 1:51 PM, YCC said: How can 22Kg wheel sound good if we compared it with the Falcon (25Kg)? What is the charging voltage and battery capacity of this wheel? See the E25 can be slower and weaker even. People who don't need top notch performance could care less about if it's 84V, 100V, or 168V. Same for their top end speed. (Would be nice if it was same as Falcon 50kph, but 40kph would be good enough.) Having an actually usable carry handle and lift button easily accessible would be much better than Falcon alone. Yes look wise it's nothing special - that' for sure. But practicality could be miles ahead of said Falcon. Ohh and i din't even mention battery capacity. Because i don't care if it has 800Wh or 1000Wh. < It should be in those margins. Also who care what's it's charging voltage? It's last mileage wheel.. You won't be charging it mid ride somewhere. At home or workplace.. Where you will have plenty of time for charging. But yeah 22kg isn't that much better than 25kg. Other things MAY be better on it.. Like build quality for one. Same time knowing how things are - i doubt it will be any better. Edited September 22 by Funky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, Funky said: But yeah 22kg isn't that much better than 25kg. Especially as the Falcon's pads are almost 2kg, pads the E25 doesn't have. The Falcon's pedals are bigger and no doubt heavier as well, so they are basically the same weight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 51 minutes ago, DavidB said: Especially as the Falcon's pads are almost 2kg, pads the E25 doesn't have. The Falcon's pedals are bigger and no doubt heavier as well, so they are basically the same weight. Yeah forgot that Falcon without pads are already 23kg... Where E25 doesn't have them also are more plastic build. At 22kg it literally needs to be Falcon. Same speed and everything. Otherwise if it's much, much weaker, at 22kg it will be simply to heavy for what it is. Edited September 14 by Funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiiijojjo Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) On 9/3/2024 at 3:31 PM, Funky said: Gonna re-post from different topic higher resolution render, for people who may have missed it. All thanks go to @WheelGoodTime for providing the image. This looks like something out of the 2019-2020 Gotway MSX & RS19 era. Like an uglier alpha version of the V12. It's good to see a wheel release with this weight though. I think we have enough heavy/high performance wheels coming out. One criticism however: It's crazy to me that manufacturers still don't understand that we all want flat and flush side panels, for easy velcro/power pad mounting. edit: I really hope that the trolley handle also doubles as a handle for lifting the EUC, and bonus points if it also includes a lift switch. Edited September 14 by xiiijojjo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 56 minutes ago, xiiijojjo said: This looks like something out of the 2019-2020 Gotway MSX & RS19 era. Like an uglier alpha version of the V12. It's good to see a wheel release with this weight though. I think we have enough heavy/high performance wheels coming out. One criticism however: It's crazy to me that manufacturers still don't understand that we all want flat and flush side panels, for easy velcro/power pad mounting. edit: I really hope that the trolley handle also doubles as a handle for lifting the EUC, and bonus points if it also includes a lift switch. Already was mentioned - if you look closer it has a hinge. Meaning yes it doubles as a carry/trolley handle. Same type as V11/12 i guess.. Meaning lift button should be right next to it. By looks it's probably closer to V12. Same for button placement. (I don't see them straying away from working setup..) Also it has V11Y pedals. I personally don't really care for pads. I don't need them. At least it's better to have wheel made without pads - than having pads that don't work.. Even worse if pads are built into euc body. Yes in perfect world i wanted to see 1 Small to 3 Big wheel ration releases. But we are lucky, if we get one small wheel release in 2 years... Next one probably gonna get released in 2030. As Inmotion is slower at releasing new wheels. Edited September 14 by Funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litewave Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 22 hours ago, Funky said: "redesign" They gonna dab some silicone like in good old days, Now it needs to be at least 40kph fast. And have 16" wheel. Or at least 14x3.5" >>Now it needs to be at least 40kph MPH fast. Now the wheel would have a chance .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 32 minutes ago, litewave said: >>Now it needs to be at least 40kph MPH fast. Now the wheel would have a chance .... Why doh? My daily commuting speed tops out 30-35kph. Usually slower as i'm not geared. Which makes 40kph decent speed. And by law we are meant to go 25kph anyways. But i don't really care for law. Sure if it has more speed that awesome, more fun if one wants to gear up and start going 60kph. Even when i gear up i still ride around ~44kph. (Which i rarely do anymore.) For your regular Joe, who don't need speed and won't use gear - anything over 20kph is already too dangerous. (Yes one could argue that even going 5kph on euc is dangerous without gear.. Still it's better than going 40kph.) Not everyone outside of this forum users are speed demons, that want fastest wheel out there and ride all black-out armor like BATMAN! Edited September 14 by Funky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcatraz Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 On 9/3/2024 at 7:24 PM, Funky said: Or maybe.. 14x3 THAT'S the perfect tire for comfort/weight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothoughtsheadempty Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Quote Posted Thursday at 09:55 AM (edited) On 9/19/2024 at 8:56 AM, alcatraz said: THAT'S the perfect tire for comfort/weight. I would be more happy if it had 22x2" (Something like that) Big diameter, but skinny tire. - Road bicycle type ordeal. 16x3" would be best in my eyes.. But i don't see E25 having a 16" tire. So yeah.. It's 14" at best. If we talk about comfort/weight it would be 16x2.125" or 16x2.5".. Best middle ground. At 3" or even better 3.5" we got many M/C options out there. Where anything under 3" width - we got only bicycle tires. I'll take 14x3.5" over 16x2.125" any day.. More tire options.. Personally 3" is best. I've had too many instances of ~2" tires getting jammed in between sidewalk/pavement crevices and knock me off in some cases, or make me lose control for a moment in the best of cases. Especially when merging on/of sidewalks or paved paths. I do see this wheel being the "old" 14 inches where it's actually 14 inches total diameter, not like Falcon. You're most likely right about it being around 2.5" wide if that is the case, which I'm pretty sure it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Anything new at all? A hint from someone who knows - about tire size, or rim size would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHill Posted Saturday at 08:30 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:30 PM Albert (2Cells1Pack on youtube) just said in a live stream with Adam (Wrong Way) that the E25 has a 16" diameter wheel, 10-15% lighter than the Falcon, so like 50 pounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoloco Posted Saturday at 08:44 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:44 PM (edited) Boy am i happy to be wrong, are you guys watching the 2Cells1pack + WrongWay tier list stream?, Albert is sharing info on the E25: 16", other colors, led lighting on the diagonal sides, 20% lighter and cheaper than the Falcon, i am currently doing something and didnt catch if there was mention of voltage and battery capacity so i left a question. The pictures led me believe it was smaller, but if this is a 16" wheel then thise pedals are big enough to be comfortable. Edit: he also mentioned it could be considered a something like a v10f update Edited Saturday at 08:48 PM by Manoloco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted Saturday at 09:42 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:42 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Manoloco said: Boy am i happy to be wrong, are you guys watching the 2Cells1pack + WrongWay tier list stream?, Albert is sharing info on the E25: 16", other colors, led lighting on the diagonal sides, 20% lighter and cheaper than the Falcon, i am currently doing something and didnt catch if there was mention of voltage and battery capacity so i left a question. The pictures led me believe it was smaller, but if this is a 16" wheel then thise pedals are big enough to be comfortable. Edit: he also mentioned it could be considered a something like a v10f update Even here people mentioned it's an updated V10. And comparing it to something in lines of being Falcon alternative. More or less smaller V12. Same time bit updated V10. Just perfect for last mileage city wheel. Just watched the stream also. It's an actual 16" wheel. Looks like it will be 2.5" wide tire, probably not 3".. Sounds like E25 will be awesome sleek wheel. Simple whole pacage for new riders, or for people who don't need crazy speeds and range. Can't wait to see it. If it has strong enough axle - i probably gonna get it, as nothing better gonna come out anytime soon. At the end of E25 talk he also mentioned 10A charging for E25 - same as Falcon. Does that mean it will be 100V? Or will it be 84V.. Same display as V14. Overall size wise it's bigger than Falcon. USB ports and USB-C power delivery. If anyone is interested in those. Edited Saturday at 09:55 PM by Funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheelkoregro Posted Saturday at 10:00 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:00 PM 17 minutes ago, Funky said: Even here people mentioned it's an updated V10. And comparing it to something in lines of being Falcon alternative. More or less smaller V12. Same time bit updated V10. Just perfect for last mileage city wheel. Just watched the stream also. It's an actual 16" wheel. Looks like it will be 2.5" wide tire, probably not 3".. Sounds like E25 will be awesome sleek wheel. Simple whole pacage for new riders, or for people who don't need crazy speeds and range. Can't wait to see it. If it has strong enough axle - i probably gonna get it, as nothing better gonna come out anytime soon. At the end of E25 talk he also mentioned 10A charging for E25 - same as Falcon. Does that mean it will be 100V? Or will it be 84V.. Same display as V14. Overall size wise it's bigger than Falcon. USB ports and USB-C power delivery. If anyone is interested in those. I cannot find this video anywhere on the 2cells 1 pack yt channel can someone please link it here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted Saturday at 10:03 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:03 PM (edited) 3 minutes ago, onewheelkoregro said: I cannot find this video anywhere on the 2cells 1 pack yt channel can someone please link it here? It's on WrongWay's. I'll take one "Thanks" - thank you very much. Edited Saturday at 10:04 PM by Funky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuQuanShan Posted Monday at 08:28 AM Share Posted Monday at 08:28 AM It's a 10'' rim wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted Monday at 09:32 AM Share Posted Monday at 09:32 AM 1 hour ago, WuQuanShan said: It's a 10'' rim wheel. How do you know it? It's 12" rim with 16x2.5" tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoloco Posted Monday at 05:03 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:03 PM (edited) This wheel needs to be better than the s18 pro 50s, the specs on that wheel are really interesting and with the upgrades of the pro (hollow motor) and 50s batts, it takes away most of the weaknesses for its target user...and it even has a 18" wheel. 25kg, 1100wh battery, 18", suspension (and by the form factor, probably more sturdy than the enclosed one on the E25... but we need to see those specs, thats why one of the most important ones is battery capacity, not only for the range, but also to see its power and if its more convenient than this evolved s18. https://oneride.eu/en/kingsong/1285-kingsong-s18-pro-50s-cells-electric-unicycle.html https://myewheel.com/kingsong-s18pro/ Maybe thats the reason for the supposed 20% cheaper than the falcon price?, because this S18 pro + (or 50s or whatever its called) is a bit expensive for its specs. Edit: At least it seems to be lighter, which is a big plus, by 3kg. is this still to be confirmed? Edited Monday at 05:14 PM by Manoloco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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