Popular Post InfiniteWheelie Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) To strengthen the argument I've been making for "electric wheel", notice how this 3-tier naming scheme is the way people actually refer to electric bikes and scooters in real life. The first is the formal name, the second is the shortened version, and the third is the casual version (used when the context is already clear). Electric Bike > E-bike > Bike Electric Scooter > E-scooter > Scooter Electric Wheel > E-wheel > Wheel The only name that's already 100% ubiquitous is the casual form "wheel", because it happens to be the perfect casual name. The great thing about "electric wheel" is that it fits with the casual name, while also fitting the naming convention of electric bikes and scooters. Edited August 9, 2023 by InfiniteWheelie 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowFlyingSquirrel Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 8 hours ago, sbb said: The challenge I see is that an EUC is not a "cycle" in any sense. Are there any names that don't involve the word "cycle"? Ever heard of the motorcycle? 🤣🤣 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=motorcycle&iax=images&ia=images EUC is best. EUC forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWheelie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Another point about "electric wheel" is that it's descriptive on a deep level. Yes, it's obviously electric and obviously a wheel, however... These devices are defined by being electric (can't make a gasoline or human powered version). The word "electric" reflects this essential characteristic. These devices are also defined by having one wheel. The word "wheel" reflects this elegantly by just leaving off the plural "s", without the need to explicitly add another word like the brand "One Wheel". Together the words "electric" and "wheel" form a name that includes two core characteristics. Just more thoughts about the name, but my main argument was in my previous post. Okay that's enough autism for today. Edited December 12, 2022 by InfiniteWheelie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, InfiniteWheelie said: These devices can inherently only be powered by electricity (could never have a gasoline or human powered version). This means the word "electric" reflects a totally essential characteristic of this device. Unfortunately, I have to disagree with your claim. There is no object that man has not devised, invented, designed and produced. So also this superb piece of engineering. (youtube video) And not to forget, the refinement of producing the best design, thus this: Edited December 12, 2022 by Robse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWheelie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) @Robse Okay fair enough, I suppose you could consider a unicycle a "human powered version". Although you can't really have one that's both human and electric powered (like e-bikes and e-scooters). That makes our devices separate from unicycles in my opinion. However that gasoline version is nothing but an oddity made for fun, it doesn't and can't work. There's no method for it to balance other than your hand controlling the throttle (near impossible), and braking would be even harder. Edited December 12, 2022 by InfiniteWheelie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robse Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, InfiniteWheelie said: @Robse Okay fair enough, I suppose you could consider a unicycle a "human powered version". Although you can't have one that's both human and electric powered (like you can with an e-bike or e-scooter), which kind of makes our devices a totally separate thing in my opinion. However that gasoline version is nothing but an oddity made for fun, it doesn't and can't work. There's no method for it to balance other than your hand controlling the throttle, and braking would be impossible. all right - maybe I wasn't clear enough in my exaggeration and dark humor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWheelie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Robse said: all right - maybe I wasn't clear enough in my exaggeration and dark humor Yeah I'm tired and just skimmed through your post. Looking back it's obvious haha. Edited December 12, 2022 by InfiniteWheelie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Someone mentioned the "wheelie-bob", which I think would be a fun brand or model name. (Could catch-on.) I'm still okay with having "gyro" in the name, despite the confusion with meats or certain aircrafts... Also, "quarter-car" has an odd precedent as being used in scientific circles as a way to describe vehicle suspension systems. So, technically, we are riding a "quarter-car" model that happens to be a true quarter of a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, RayRay said: Someone mentioned the "wheelie-bob", which I think would be a fun brand or model name. (Could catch-on.) I'm throwing mine in a lake if they end up being called that ! How to lose ALL your cool factor in 3 seconds flat. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 0000 Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, InfiniteWheelie said: Electric Bike > E-bike > Bike Electric Scooter > E-scooter > Scooter Electric Wheel > E-wheel > Wheel etc. Exactly, strongest argument I've seen so far. 12 hours ago, InfiniteWheelie said: Together the words "electric" and "wheel" form a name that includes two core characteristics. Just more thoughts about the name, but my main argument was in my previous post. Okay that's enough autism for today. I get that it's kind of the thing to say nowadays, but it's some kind of sad that anyone should feel the need to dress down making arguments and presenting reasoning to support a point as having anything to do with autism or some kind of deficient mental condition. Particularly on a discussion forum of all places! Not trying to criticize you @InfiniteWheelie for this minor offhand comment as I agree with everything you've said, but more a criticism against a trend I've noticed in society that contributes, in a small way, to the dumbing down of discussion everywhere. Like making intelligent points should be apologized for or marginalized in order to be made palpable to the public. Frankly, it's a horrendous trend which I think contributes to the phenomenon we are living through as society in which truths cannot be reasoned out by individuals, but are only able to gain general acceptance if it is comes from and is ordained by perceived authoritative sources or so-called experts. But before I contribute even further to the derailment and speaking of autism. 10 hours ago, Paul A said: This might be an alternative to EUCs. Seems like a great idea/alternative to cars, in certain settings. What the hell does this have to do anything with the topic at hand? I don't know what's wrong with you, but constantly spamming links to unrelated nonsense and other people's content seems to be your main trick that never gets old for you on this forum. Dear god, just make your own thread where you can spam MSM articles propaganda and other random nonsense in one containment thread which will, blessedly, be much easier to summarily ignore. Edited December 12, 2022 by Vanturion 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 e-wheel makes sense to me and seems the least obtrusive. For instance "i think e-wheels should be classified in the same category as e-bikes" see how nice that sounds when advocating for EUC laws... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 It just makes sense to call it an e-wheel. I mean when asked , people often seem more confused when i say electric unicycle. I think e-wheel would help others to understand it a bit more easily. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0000 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Punxatawneyjoe said: It just makes sense to call it an e-wheel. I mean when asked , people often seem more confused when i say electric unicycle. I think e-wheel would help others to understand it a bit more easily. For sure. I've said it earlier, but I still think it'd be interesting to have someone other than me, possibly a mod, post up a poll with all of the suggestion naming suggestions from this thread just to see what the forum members end up voting on. Especially now that this topic has been percolating on and off again in the community at large for some time. I mean, why not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtosis Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Every time I see someone all worried about how "nerdy" EUC sounds, I just feel sad that someone is so insecure about their hobby and so desperate for everyone to think it is cool. As a result, whenever I see someone trying so hard to "make fetch happen" as it were, I always just read whatever they wrote as "penis wheel". So just let it be known that when you prominently keep repeating "Electric Wheel" or "E-Wheel" or "GyroWheel" or whatever thing you think will let you sit at the cool table, I just hear "penis wheel". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWheelie Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Punxatawneyjoe said: e-wheel makes sense to me and seems the least obtrusive. For instance "i think e-wheels should be classified in the same category as e-bikes" see how nice that sounds when advocating for EUC laws... 4 hours ago, Punxatawneyjoe said: It just makes sense to call it an e-wheel. I mean when asked , people often seem more confused when i say electric unicycle. I think e-wheel would help others to understand it a bit more easily. I agree with everything you wrote here. "E-wheel" would likely be the main name in practice. Good for use around riders and non-riders alike. I've introduced people using "e-wheel", and as you say they simply accept it, while "electric unicycle" seems to cause them more confusion. "Electric wheel" is just the formal name, which is only used occasionally. "Wheel" is just the informal name, which is only used around people in the know. Edited December 13, 2022 by InfiniteWheelie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) I like e-wheel too. I generally just say “wheel”, but for non riders e-wheel makes a lot of sense. When I’m typing, for some reason I miss the trailing ‘l’ and end up with “whee”. Freud has approved it already. Edited December 13, 2022 by Tawpie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiMark Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, InfiniteWheelie said: "E-wheel" would likely be the main name in practice. Good for use around riders and non-riders alike. I've introduced people using "e-wheel", and as you say they simply accept it, while "electric unicycle" seems to cause them more confusion. "Electric wheel" is just the formal name, which is only used occasionally. "Wheel" is just the informal name, which is only used around people in the know. I think that this really cuts to the chase. Our rides should be called electric wheels, commonly referred to as 'e-wheels' which is as succinct and as easily understood as e-bikes. Not many people use 'electric bicycles' because e-bikes is way easier to say. e-wheels is just as easy to say and they are just as easy to ride (after getting over that initial (admittedly very steep) learning curve). It makes sense that e-wheel riders when talking amongst themselves would refer to their 'wheels' but when talking to non-riders it would be best to keep it as e-wheel. Obviously you could get more descriptive at call it a self-balancing electric wheel, but you definitely would not want to keep repeating all of that every time during a conversation. I like 'electric wheel' and agree that it definitely makes sense to shorten it down to e-wheel to make it more concise. I don't see that there is any real flaw in referring to what I ride as an electric wheel, that is quite literally what the device is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWheelie Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 @KiwiMark You totally get it. Welcome to the team. Our numbers are growing stronger everyday! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Lots of low quality offtopic crap has been moved here. Enter at your own risk (or better: don't bother): 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetteh Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) I like "e-wheel" though in its plural form it could be mistaken for any type of PEV. The vast majority of the time I just refer to my EUCs as "my wheels". "Electric Unicycle" typically only comes out when I'm talking to people who ride other PEVs and I need to distinguish or if someone asks what it is that I'm riding and I start to get technical. I rarely ever say "EUC" but that is my go-to term when communicating through text since it's only three letters. I've noticed that most people I know who aren't riders and some who are just getting into riding tend to refer to EUCs as "one-wheels". At first I would take the opportunity to try to inform them of what a OneWheel is and the differences between that and an EUC but they almost never caught on and eventually I decided at best it was a wasted effort and at worst I was coming off as a gatekeeping smartass. In practice, the terminology isn't nearly as important as context and most people's focus is on the wheel itself over what it's called. Edited December 13, 2022 by Spaghetteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post plentora Posted December 13, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2022 I think we have a winner! e-wheel or just "wheel". 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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