esaj Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Finnish police is starting to use 2-wheeled Segway-type devices (sorry in Finnish only): Is that a Ninebot or a Segway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbouju Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Probably this one, no? And may be with special accessories... http://www.segway.com/products/consumer-lifestyle/segway-i2-se Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 24 minutes ago, sbouju said: Probably this one, no? And may be with special accessories... http://www.segway.com/products/consumer-lifestyle/segway-i2-se Thanks for the link, actually I think they're these: http://www.segway.com/products/public-safety/segway-i2-se-patroller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Does anyone know if you can overlean a Segway? Do they have any tiltback sort of programming in place to slow a user down? Ah I found some answers here: http://forums.segwaychat.org/showthread.php?t=2972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 2 hours ago, HunkaHunkaBurningLove said: Does anyone know if you can overlean a Segway? Do they have any tiltback sort of programming in place to slow a user down? Ah I found some answers here: http://forums.segwaychat.org/showthread.php?t=2972 Probably not that easily (at least once you learn how to ride one), but this compilation shows some falls that could (maybe) be thought of as overleans: In most cases, the ones where you could say it's sort of overleaning, it's actually coming to stop, then going backwards and then losing power after overlean when trying to go forwards again (like for example around 3:49 or so). I think it was Shane Chen (of Inventist/Solowheel) who said that they had calculated that to totally prevent overleaning (don't know for what weight rider and whether he was talking of unicycles or Segways) you'd need something like over 10kW motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Thanks, I've seen some of those video clips before, and it looks like Segways aren't entirely fool proof. It appears that the control stick can be fooled, and it looks like they rely more on how the rider leans or pulls back on it in combinations with gyro feedback. Some Segways in that clip were moving by themselves in a forward direction even though the rider had fallen off. Very strange. It also looks like the balance system can be thrown off by repeated forwards and backwards oscillations or maybe incorrect input into the control arm while the rider's weight is leaning in the opposite direction? I think it will be a long wait before we see law enforcement using EUCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizardmech Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 19 hours ago, HunkaHunkaBurningLove said: Does anyone know if you can overlean a Segway? Do they have any tiltback sort of programming in place to slow a user down? Ah I found some answers here: http://forums.segwaychat.org/showthread.php?t=2972 The EUC and Segway differences remind me of dirtbikes vs quadbikes, everyone assumes the quadbike will be safer but 4 wheels ends up offering lower stability as centre of gravity moves when traversing horizontal inclines and if one side encounters bumps or friction it can roll or yaw violently then roll due to a short wheelbase and high centre of gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Looks like the training process is a little tricky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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