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S18 Battery Project: S18 XL | 20S4P (80 x 21700 cells) ~1484wh


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S18 XL Battery Project

Project photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ct1hhpYLYmc9uDvq6

Ordered: 21700 cells, 2 x 10S packs
Added another 20S in parallel (wired both packs in series).
Each pack includes a BMS, so no funky wiring beyond the addition of a parallel connection.

Waterproofed all the exterior wiring. S18 will no longer be ridden seated as is. Worthy trade off for larger battery capacity. A little top heavy; reminiscent of the V12. You can feel the motor have more immediate torque/acceleration. The battery is top-mounted and should not be damaged in a fall unless the wheel does a full on roll/bounce situation.

Charges with stock or alternate aftermarket variable/fast chargers.


Before: 60 x 21700 cells

Rated capacity: 1110wh

Energy consumption (average): 26.9wh/mi

Range 0-100%: ~41 miles


After: 80 x 21700 cells

Estimated capacity: 1484wh

Energy consumption (average): 26.9wh/mi

Range 0-100%: ~54 miles


Battery packs ordered from AliExpress, requested an XT90 plug. You must specify a plug or you will be sent a default/no plug.

XT90 series and parallel connectors purchased via amazon.

In future projects, I may opt for smaller plugs (XT60, maybe even XT30). This would reduce cable component surface area and make accessibility more convenient.

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2 hours ago, misterdalto said:

Fun to get more performance!
Looks scary at first blush, but doesn't seem particularly awful to me...
Non-name-brand cells, especially in the often-abused 21700 size, are my main criticism. Hopefully you found a safe storage spot ;)
I presume you leave the auxiliary packs connected permanently, which avoids issues of voltage-matching during reconnection.

Do you know- since the KS controller had separate inputs from the multiple packs, if a short circuit happens in the battery cables, can the controller continue operating?

This is a high-vibration application: do the packs use cell frames?

The packs are labeled "10S 2P" but are very clearly 10 cells only, each. What's the "2P" label about?

Thx for sharing

 

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Great that it works for you!

What is your strategy to get the both 10s packs in series to drift in voltage? Will you use an external balancer here?
I'm a bit confused by the description, there's an inconsistency somewhere: 2 x 10S packs + a 20s pack would be adding 30 cells, however later on you say it went from 60 cells to 80.

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