Blicky Te⚡️la Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Any KS veterans know if these will work in my 18XL? http://1PC 1.5 inch 4Ohm 10W Full Range Audio Bass Speaker Stereo Woofer Loudspeaker Horn https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NPY82M2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Y19DEbHRXWZ7H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI_Hedgehog Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 As someone who has designed speakers I'll mention: (in summary: replacing the drivers will probably result in worse sound) The driver you list is a generic one, so sound quality of the driver is unknown. I don't have an 18XL so don't know what the impedance of the existing drivers are. Generally they're 8 ohm to conserve power, and the ones you list are 4 ohm, which will draw about twice the power, depending on impedance factors designed around the OEM driver. The driver circuit could overheat and fail if the replacement drivers draw more than 30% of the rated OEM driver current. The driver enclosure is designed to match the suspension stiffness of the driver. Replacing one driver with another generally makes the sound worse, for one of two reasons: If the enclosure volume is too big or the cone stiffness too soft the driver will have more movement and over-extend, possibly ruining the driver and the driver circuit. If the enclosure is too small or the cone stiffness too stiff the driver will have less movement and sound tinny and weak. The real solution is to buy earbuds or an external speaker. TaoTronics SoundLiberty 79 Noise Reduction Earbuds JBL Charge 4 Waterproof Portable Bluetooth Speaker Hopefully this saves you time, money, and frustration. Cheers! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blicky Te⚡️la Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 23 hours ago, WI_Hedgehog said: As someone who has designed speakers I'll mention: (in summary: replacing the drivers will probably result in worse sound) The driver you list is a generic one, so sound quality of the driver is unknown. I don't have an 18XL so don't know what the impedance of the existing drivers are. Generally they're 8 ohm to conserve power, and the ones you list are 4 ohm, which will draw about twice the power, depending on impedance factors designed around the OEM driver. The driver circuit could overheat and fail if the replacement drivers draw more than 30% of the rated OEM driver current. The driver enclosure is designed to match the suspension stiffness of the driver. Replacing one driver with another generally makes the sound worse, for one of two reasons: If the enclosure volume is too big or the cone stiffness too soft the driver will have more movement and over-extend, possibly ruining the driver and the driver circuit. If the enclosure is too small or the cone stiffness too stiff the driver will have less movement and sound tinny and weak. The real solution is to buy earbuds or an external speaker. TaoTronics SoundLiberty 79 Noise Reduction Earbuds JBL Charge 4 Waterproof Portable Bluetooth Speaker Hopefully this saves you time, money, and frustration. Cheers! Wow. This is invaluable. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don M. Schiewer Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 11:24 AM, WI_Hedgehog said: The real solution is to buy earbuds or an external speaker. TaoTronics SoundLiberty 79 Noise Reduction Earbuds JBL Charge 4 Waterproof Portable Bluetooth Speaker Hopefully this saves you time, money, and frustration. Cheers! I’d also recommend these Bose Soundwear - perfect for bicycles, eucs, etc...works well with full face helmets too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, Don M. Schiewer said: I’d also recommend these Bose Soundwear - perfect for bicycles, eucs, etc...works well with full face helmets too! I haven't tried the bose version but I did try another cheaper variety and they worked perfectly at low speeds but I found above 20mph all I could hear was wind noise. There are bone conducting headphones which also allow you to hear stuff around you. I heard these were good but I haven't tried them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoseHeadphones Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, mike_bike_kite said: I haven't tried the bose version but I did try another cheaper variety and they worked perfectly at low speeds but I found above 20mph all I could hear was wind noise. There are bone conducting headphones which also allow you to hear stuff around you. I heard these were good but I haven't tried them. I am a huge fan of the aftershocks aeropex, they sound decent and fit comfortably in my TSG Pass. Which is pretty critical because in my other helmets they’re drowned out by wind noise anytime I go over 20 mph, they definitely do not help combat wind noise on their own. As a bonus they’re doubling as a very comfortable headset for all the group calls I’m having to do in lockdown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don M. Schiewer Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 hours ago, mike_bike_kite said: I haven't tried the bose version but I did try another cheaper variety and they worked perfectly at low speeds but I found above 20mph all I could hear was wind noise. There are bone conducting headphones which also allow you to hear stuff around you. I heard these were good but I haven't tried them. I use my Bose all the time and have no real problems hearing them with traffic, 20+ mph, and/or Full Face helmet...even podcasts are listenable for me. I’ve been curious about the bone conduction stuff but figured they probably wouldn’t mesh well with a full helmet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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