MaxMi

Yes I think it's so. Almost till Android 8 both apps match perfectly, I've to use previous phone to remove the hack.

Hi everybody, I bought some years ago two Ninetool licenses for hacking my One E+ and One S2 speed limit. During these years, I never had a problem using my "urban" wheels in the city: initially I was a little afraid of this somewhat dangerous hack, but either I was lucky or (I like to think so) simply wise . I really enjoyed the money spent on this hack. Anyway, once the wheels have been unlocked, I never used Ninetool; meanwhile, I upgraded my Samsung S7 to a S20, actually with Android 11. Today, I tried to open the app (if ever I decide to sell one wheel, I want to sell it with the original firmware), but it doesn't match. With both Ninetool and Ninebattery (the other MRN26'app) the screen app disappears after half second, and a warning message tell me to upgrade. Apparently, apps are open in the background, but they don't work. Any suggestion about how to fix? Unluckily MRN26 account doesn't receive MP. Thank you in advance.

Unfortunately, it seems I’ve understood correctly. In Italy the regulation for all personal transporters is about to come out, before the summer; from the rumors, it seems to be tailored to the growing lobby of electric scooters market: while scooters can go up to 20 km/h on sidewalks and cycle paths (not much, but in the city it's already something), EUCs can (ridiculously) ride only on sidewalks at a speed of 6 km/h; and, to be legal, only CE marked wheels and with a built-in speed limiter. Personally, it would mean goodbye to the EUC... If the commercial restrictions must keep the interests of the importer (which I understand, and partially agree with), who can guarantee that tomorrow that speed legal limits may not be remotely imposed on EUCs riding in my country? This was wisely predicted long time ago on the French forum, when the first versions of the geo-localized InMotion app were released for the same commercial reasons. I am very upset about the potential direction towards which the remote management of our EUCs is going; they don’t have the cost to be treated as children's toys ... However, it is already something that the factory admits it's technically possible...

So, what does it mean exactly? If the 20 km/h rule is approved in my city tomorrow and without prejudice to my obligation to respect it, can Kingsong limit the maximum speed remotely by detecting my position? I hope I misunderstood because of my fairly basic English ...

Great job @MRN76! However, it would be better if there were also 1.4.0 firmware (the last official one), to roll back if one is not happy with the upgrade. Maybe you can downgrade to 1.3.5 and then upgrade to 1.4.0 with the official app, but it would be better to do it directly from ninetool.

This is what I call an intelligent and ecumenical solution Thanks for the afterthought to the staff

I add as objective data that there have been (and there are) producers who have used us as beta testers for years. Even the brands that have chosen to carve out a slice of reputation for the reliability and safety of their products, now must invest in increasingly powerful and fast wheels in order not to be cut off from the business; and apart the modest but courageous attempts from IPS, I do not have the impression that any manufacturer is investing downwards, in the wheels that would be the most versatile for most people. The "greatest is better" is an immanent value in our societies, in the long run I think destructive, but with which we must still reckon. I agree that simply warning that “an inherently dangerous practice requires preparation and awareness” sounds a bit hypocritical and simply formalist, moreover not unlike allowing the sale of cigarettes with the inscription "seriously harms your health" ... It is certainly a problem, like those much more serious highlighted by @Electroman, but it’s not censoring with a paternalistic spirit an argument that you get more security, plus risking that certain issues can slip into the dark web, where they would have no way to be discussed and/or eventually challenged. Sorry for OT: in centuries considered “dark”, St. Thomas Aquinas already wrote that "the content takes the form of the container". Replacing education in the selection of sources, which is certainly not the task of a free forum, with arbitrary censorship is not a better remedy than the damage that one would like to avoid. Even if these two cents are the result of my father's heart, despite the awareness that even in the courtrooms, unfortunately, the assessment of responsibilities moves more and more often from a formalistic and not substantial approach to the causes, and this is a real dead end...

This is not a defense argument, but a way to question the authoritativeness of this kind of moderation. But this is not a court, where (fortunately) the restrictions of law are less discretionary, and above all they are not retroactive. I suddenly understand that I'm in someone else's home, I can only decide how much I enjoy to stay there. However, each will draw its own deductions. Personally, I find this way of censoring really embarrassing, and so far from customs of my usual relationships, in the web as in the real world. Bye.

I'm very disappointed about this decision, regardless of how firmware mod is more or less interesting. Instead, if someone shows his imprudence in any way other than modding the firmware, including circumventing the cars at the top of the speed in the Big Apple, bumping pedestrians on the Brooklyn Bridge, burning red lights, stressing in every way mosfets, batteries and motor up to break the wheel, this is fine. No one has done an apology of modding, I first pointed out limits and risks, knowing that this forum is consulted by different kinds of users, inviting anyone to a conscious choice that can only be obtained after a solid experience. However, it does not seem to me that anyone has censored so drastically, plus with a new forum rule following the affected threads, the other threads where somebody exalted the performance of the wheels and the brands that leave users to reach the limit. I'm the first to think that the democratization of this wonderful personal transporter will necessarily go through a regulation that will limit the performance (also of the current "official" devices, whose circulation remains forbidden in most of the world), but as long as you discuss in a free forum and in the absence of any official rule (with few exceptions), I do not think that censoring the modding (not discussing about its opportunity, that's ever a good thing) is the best way to make users feel at home. At least, not me nor my home. If a seemingly free forum has to become just a place of inspiration to buy a new wheel every three months, perhaps sponsored by the producers or by those who work for them, I prefer to stay out.

What improvements besides the graphics?

Nobody can assure you and this imho is not a developer’s responsibility. We are free to test unofficial firmwares but at our own risk. A mosfet can occasionally burn also driving into factory restrictions, and of course the closer you are to the technical limits of the wheel, the greater are the chances of burning a mosfet. Official firmwares provide a large margin of safety, if you force them, every pothole, every unexpected obstacle or sudden hard braking may cause a critical power issue. That's why I wrote that this kind of risk is better to take when one knows his wheel better.

Also If I've understood everything about S2 (S2 to Turbo => from 24 km/h to 26 km/h; Turbo to 7.6.0 FW => 30 km/h), I'm a bit confused about the E+ . With NineTool I've still hacked the name/serial; now my E+ thinks to be a P. The FW is still 1.4.0, but I set hight speed mode in the app and I guess I could already go up to 30 km/h (also if never I will do). So my question is: which difference is there between E+ 1.4.0 FW, now named "P", and 1.4.3 FW (or 7.6.0 FW if you will standardize the name)? I tried to understand something more by reading your posts of this summer, but with the speed of your progress it was really a long time ago

I read the thread on upgrading A1/S1 to S2 and I saw you created the 1.0.9 FW to raise max speed. But I haven’t understood which difference is there between 1.0.9 and 7.6.0 FW. About E+, maybe some nostalgic would desire go back to 1.3.5 FW to get more torque, but now I changed the name of my E+ to P model I ask if it’s possible to upgrade to 1.4.3 FW that you are using, and if it’s safe for the E+ custom bms.

I did it yesterday night. My S2 goes now very well. Till next update of NineTool, that automatically will prepare the wheel to the FW update, you have as described above to lock the S2 with the NB official app, then to close it and proceed to the FW update with NineTool. For me it took 15 minutes, many errors due maybe to the instable BT connection. Anyway, no problem, the loading of the FW package seemed to start each time from the beginning, but actually picked up where the last error occurred. Note that this operation, unlike the simple change of the S2 name to Turbo, is for the moment irreversible; but MRN76 has already written above that future updates will also provide the possibility of making the rollback to the original FW. For how usually I drive, I think I'll never push it up 30 km/h; anyway the update allows to drive through the city at 25 km/h very smoothly, without continuous beep beep and tilting, while maintaining the lightness and smartness of a "minor" wheel. I'm really enthusiast for @MRN76 work, I would never have been able nor brave enough to do the mod with the physical interface, for fear of damaging the wheel; but this air update was like drinking a glass of water. I believe that the small contribution required certainly worth the time he has dedicated to this work, and it is however less than my gratitude I apologize for this short and for many obvious OT: to be sincere, I'm not excited to write about this type of mod (I made an exception because I'm really happy with MRN76's work), although in a forum of enthusiasts; because many people even unprepared and who don't know their own wheel read this informations: bringing the performance of the wheel close to its limit is inherently dangerous (often much more than with the factory restrictions), and I don't think that using protections only to get as close as possible to the limit is generally a good policy, both in personal life, both to democratize our beloved wheels at the legislative level... However, the limits established by the manufacturer are particularly prudential, having to consider also heavy drivers or uphill paths. For example, I weight 70 kg and I live in a flat city; I hope I’m not wrong if I think that up to 27 km/h I can feel confident that in "standard" driving conditions (not accelerating or decelerating too fast, etc.) my wheel will not leave me on the ground. But also with factory restrictions we have seen people falling and getting hurt in a stupid way, so...

Se ci fossero stati danni fisici penso che le cose sarebbero andate diversamente, e i vigili li avresti chiamati anche a costo di perderci un pomeriggio, perché nella peggiore delle ipotesi un concorso di colpa è sempre meglio di una colpa al 100%. Purtroppo bisogna sempre partire dal presupposto che la controparte cercherà di sottrarsi alla propria responsabilità con qualsiasi mezzo disponibile, poi se questo non succederà tanto meglio. E ciascuno può decidere la soluzione concretamente meno peggiore, sapendo che spesso l’ottimo è il nemico del bene. È paradossale, ma anche in persone in sè corrette sembra diventata una forma istintiva di difesa dal modello culturale oramai pervasivo, di cercare sempre e a tutti i costi un responsabile per tutto, anche quando non è necessario. Ricordo tempo fa una signora fiondatasi da un negozio sullo stretto marciapiede da cui stavo transitando, davvero a passo d’uomo ben conoscendo il rischio, e che facendomi cadere mi ha apostrofato con un: “Eh ma con ‘sti affari non potete sfrecciare a tutta velocità sui marciapiedi”. Quando sarebbe bastato, riscontrata l’incolumita di entrambi, abbozzare un: “Mi dispiace, meno male che non si è fatto male nessuno”... Eppure, da quella circostanza, se mi fosse successo qualcosa, sono sicuro che la sciura sarebbe uscita indenne, perché, ripeto per ragioni di economia giudiziaria, se un mezzo non può circolare e salvi casi di grave ed evidente colpa della controparte, si prescinde da un’accurata analisi della dinamica del sinistro, la quale costerebbe spesso più dell’oggetto del contendere. Una polizza RC non risolve tutto (anche perché pochi sanno che, a differenza del ramo auto, non sussiste il diritto di surroga ed anche per questo costa poco, limitandosi drasticamente il contenzioso), ma certo è meglio che non averla, almeno per igiene mentale e per le possibili conseguenze più gravi, che ovviamente nessuno si augura. Se però la Compagnia rifiuta di risarcire il danno, appigliandosi ad esempio al fatto che “il cane non era condotto ai sensi di legge” - cioè non era al guinzaglio -, per l’assicurato può diventare una grana ancora più complicata da affrontare in sede legale. E questo fa di questo importante strumento un utile ausilio soprattutto per chi, per il proprio modo di essere e di rispettare gli altri, pensa in prospettiva di non dovervi ricorrere, anziché di averne uno scudo per fare ciò che vuole.