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Anyone try the larger ‘Speed Wheel’ available at More4Mini yet?

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I was thinking of giving them a shot and wondered if anyone had tried this yet?

 

I have a MiniPro which I love.

 

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I have the 90/65-6.5 tyres more4mini label as "off-road." Only complaint is that they are really too heavy for a device like a MiniPro (weighing 40ozs), the cushion of air cannot go as soft as one would like, even at low tyre pressures. They are much better than the ninebot tyres, which have walls that are much too stuff, and stop the tyres from reacting correctly (IMO) to an obstacle. I considered buying these 'speed tyres', but more4mini has such sparse specs on them, and no decent photographs. So I settled for some 70/65-6.5 thorn-resistant tyres from China (via Amazon US, but Aliexpress has many vendors for these) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CTCWJ37 For $20, they do a good job, and arrived in 10 days from order. Although they only weigh the same 24ozs as the Ninebot tyres, they are 4 Ply Rating rather than the 2PR of the Ninebot, and certainly look 'thorn resistant.' I need more riding to check that claim, however. They do 'cushion' properly at obstacles, but are still a little heavy for the (approx) 120Kg peak load of a miniPro plus rider.

I chose the 70/65 tyres, even though top speed is less than the 90/65, as I wanted more torque (I weigh a lot ,and ride up hills) rather than more speed :)

Hope that helps!

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4 hours ago, trevmar said:

I have the 90/65-6.5 tyres more4mini label as "off-road." Only complaint is that they are really too heavy for a device like a MiniPro (weighing 40ozs), the cushion of air cannot go as soft as one would like, even at low tyre pressures. They are much better than the ninebot tyres, which have walls that are much too stuff, and stop the tyres from reacting correctly (IMO) to an obstacle. I considered buying these 'speed tyres', but more4mini has such sparse specs on them, and no decent photographs. So I settled for some 70/65-6.5 thorn-resistant tyres from China (via Amazon US, but Aliexpress has many vendors for these) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CTCWJ37 For $20, they do a good job, and arrived in 10 days from order. Although they only weigh the same 24ozs as the Ninebot tyres, they are 4 Ply Rating rather than the 2PR of the Ninebot, and certainly look 'thorn resistant.' I need more riding to check that claim, however. They do 'cushion' properly at obstacles, but are still a little heavy for the (approx) 120Kg peak load of a miniPro plus rider.

I chose the 70/65 tyres, even though top speed is less than the 90/65, as I wanted more torque (I weigh a lot ,and ride up hills) rather than more speed :)

Hope that helps!

Thanks for the info!  Besides the sparse specs, I have also emailed them about them three times with no response.  Not a good sign.  

I am curious how the higher speed is even achieved as well.  Does the app/device think it is going 11 but it will go 12.5?  Doesn’t quite make sense to me yet.  Although I am still intrigued.  

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16 minutes ago, IRK said:

 I am curious how the higher speed is even achieved as well.  Does the app/device think it is going 11 but it will go 12.5?  Doesn’t quite make sense to me yet.  Although I am still intrigued.  

The motor is turning at a specific RPM, and the MiniPro calculates your speed by multiplying that RPM with the wheel diameter (and a scaling constant). When you change to a bigger wheel diameter (by using a bigger tyre) you don't tell the MiniPro, so it thinks you are driving about 15% slower than you really are :)

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47 minutes ago, trevmar said:

The motor is turning at a specific RPM, and the MiniPro calculates your speed by multiplying that RPM with the wheel diameter (and a scaling constant). When you change to a bigger wheel diameter (by using a bigger tyre) you don't tell the MiniPro, so it thinks you are driving about 15% slower than you really are :)

Aha!  That makes sense.  So it says 11 on the app but it is incorrect.... I get it.  

I only got my Pro a month ago and have 65 miles on it already but am learning all this stuff.  Love the device. A ton. Would Ike a little more speed personally and this might be a way to get it pretty easily although putting these wheels on might be a nightmare I see from searches. Fenders too.  Might try anyway.

Maybe you could answer one more question I can’t find the answer to..... how do I get the app to be ‘clear’ like all these photos show online?  Mine is only white or black... I am on an iPhone. If you can’t answer no problem!  

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On my android phone you just wipe your finger down a vacant part of the screen to change the camera back and forth.

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I'm hoping to install the new high speed tires, but it could take me quite a while to get to that job.  I'm not sure they have any larger diameter than the Hybrid Tires, they are likely the same, but offer to smoother tread pattern.  I'll likely measure the diameter tomorrow, just so I know.  

I'm hoping to do the speed hack on the firm ware eventually.  Currently just been using my e-bike when I need to go farther or faster.  The PTR Elite from Ninebot also goes a bit faster, but is so noisy and not as much fun as the MiniPro, it does not have the refined operation the  MiniPro and EUCs have.

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59 minutes ago, trevmar said:

On my android phone you just wipe your finger down a vacant part of the screen to change the camera back and forth.

Thanks!  I was able to figure it out!

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15 minutes ago, FreeRide said:

I'm hoping to install the new high speed tires, but it could take me quite a while to get to that job.  I'm not sure they have any larger diameter than the Hybrid Tires, they are likely the same, but offer to smoother tread pattern.  I'll likely measure the diameter tomorrow, just so I know.  

I'm hoping to do the speed hack on the firm ware eventually.  Currently just been using my e-bike when I need to go farther or faster.  The PTR Elite from Ninebot also goes a bit faster, but is so noisy and not as much fun as the MiniPro, it doe snot have the refined operation the  MiniPro and EUCs have.

Yeah. The hack sounds super interesting as well. 

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I switched to a larger hybrid tires, you would go faster for sure. 

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8 hours ago, Stan said:

I switched to a larger hybrid tires, you would go faster for sure. 

Nice!  How was the install?  Fenders too?

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I measured the circumference of the Hybrid tires and the new Speed tires from MoreForMini.  Uninflated both tires had a circumference measured near the same at 84.5cm.  Inflated the MiniPro stock tires have a measured circumference of 81.5cm.

So far all I can say is the two aftermarket tires will probably reach the same speed, but without inflating the tires there is not enough increase in the circumference to get much of a speed difference between the stock tires.  It will be interesting to install these and see if the measured circumference aligns with what is expected.  

 

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35 minutes ago, FreeRide said:

I measured the circumference of the Hybrid tires and the new Speed tires from MoreForMini.  Uninflated both tires had a circumference measured near the same at 84.5cm.  Inflated the MiniPro stock tires have a measured circumference of 81.5cm.

So far all I can say is the two aftermarket tires will probably reach the same speed, but without inflating the tires there is not enough increase in the circumference to get much of a speed difference between the stock tires.  It will be interesting to install these and see if the measured circumference aligns with what is expected.  

 

Gotcha.  Not even sure it is worth it for a 1.5mph increase really.  I mostly do city riding here in LA so the hybrid isn’t really necessary. But when I say the new speed tire it did peak my interest.  I love this transporter.  Use it often but do wish it had a touch more pace.

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I have not tried the more4mini ones, but just installed these 90/65-6.5 tires.

http://www.extremescooters.biz/90-65-6-5-tubeless-tire-with-tread-154-263.aspx

I love them! Taller and wider. Very nice stable ride.

The original tires were 32 inch circumference the new ones are 36.625 inches.

That is 12.5% larger. So actual top speed should be about 12 mph.

They were super easy to install. The hardest part was modifying the original fenders.

The difference in speed was noticeable.

If you are on the fence, I say go for it!

 

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10 hours ago, 68bugboy said:

I have not tried the more4mini ones, but just installed these 90/65-6.5 tires.

http://www.extremescooters.biz/90-65-6-5-tubeless-tire-with-tread-154-263.aspx

I love them! Taller and wider. Very nice stable ride.

The original tires were 32 inch circumference the new ones are 36.625 inches.

That is 12.5% larger. So actual top speed should be about 12 mph.

They were super easy to install. The hardest part was modifying the original fenders.

The difference in speed was noticeable.

If you are on the fence, I say go for it!

 

Nice!  I am leaning towards it for sure. 

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