Max B Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 The wheel is fully compressed, it does not matter in which hole the shock is located, because the maximum stroke will not increase, the suspension is already fully uncompressed. If we take into account that the rubber ring will be compressed to the end, here 90 mm. This has already happened with the Master, where the stroke was advertised as 80 mm, and on the pipes only 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCzero Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 11 minutes ago, Max B said: The wheel is fully compressed, it does not matter in which hole the shock is located, because the maximum stroke will not increase, the suspension is already fully uncompressed. If we take into account that the rubber ring will be compressed to the end, here 90 mm. This has already happened with the Master, where the stroke was advertised as 80 mm, and on the pipes only 70 Did you check for any "stop blocks" earlier mentioned here in this discussion limiting the travel? Some wrote there would be some removable stop blocks making the travel either 10 or 13cm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 28 minutes ago, EUCzero said: Did you check for any "stop blocks" earlier mentioned here in this discussion limiting the travel? Some wrote there would be some removable stop blocks making the travel either 10 or 13cm. Would those be at the bottom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 36 minutes ago, EUCzero said: Did you check for any "stop blocks" earlier mentioned here in this discussion limiting the travel? Some wrote there would be some removable stop blocks making the travel either 10 or 13cm. 7 minutes ago, Rawnei said: Would those be at the bottom? probably yes, that's how you makes the wheel lower and with less travel (like the yellow ones the t4 comes with) Edited August 26 by EMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCzero Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) Sooo..... nerdy me. Took some screenshots from the Blitz disassembly video. Measuring stanchion tube VS known sizes on the wheel (like the diameter of the rim) Then I got 13cm travel on stanchion tube. Minus aprox 1 cm rubber dampening on the top. So the one tested by Max B most probably have a stopper somewhere. Edited August 26 by EUCzero 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCzero Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Also...in the part list part no33: Guide pillar limit insertion block 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EUCzero Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Sweet. So now we know it has 130mm (minus dampening rubber rings) I am interested again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 hours ago, EMA said: That just looks like a stopper instead of rubber ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rawnei Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Doesn't make any sense, if we're missing 45mm that part is not 45mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Rawnei said: Doesn't make any sense, if we're missing 45mm that part is not 45mm. if you look at this picture we have 90mm + 10mm rubber ring, add the 21mm of the metal piece + small rubber pieces on bottom and we are around 120-125mm total. (assuming also the limiter block is in touch with the lower part) Edited August 26 by EMA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 17 minutes ago, EMA said: if you look at this picture we have 90mm + 10mm rubber ring, add the 21mm of the metal piece + small rubber pieces on bottom and we are around 120-125mm total. (assuming also the limiter block is in touch with the lower part) Aha so photo shows more than the 85mm reported. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max B Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 The final suspension travel was 108 mm between the bump stops with the stopper removed, thanks to everyone for the tips. If you count the bump stops, it comes out to ~125 mm 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max B Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 3 hours ago, Rawnei said: Aha so photo shows more than the 85mm reported. It was a test of attentiveness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 25 minutes ago, Max B said: The final suspension travel was 108 mm between the bump stops with the stopper removed, thanks to everyone for the tips. If you count the bump stops, it comes out to ~125 mm Thanks, so with bumpers, realistically we are looking at 115-120mm of travel at the most, definitely not bad but why do they have to pad it is the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 https://www.facebook.com/100008794805371/videos/1459192614765371 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyss Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, EMA said: https://www.facebook.com/100008794805371/videos/1459192614765371 Shot like a infomercial. I would love to know more about what current the blitz controller and motor can sustain. In theory they can ramp up the amps and make the c32 perform as well or better than a c40 at the risk of overheating quickly but hard numbers would be way better than "oh yeah it does more current" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Looks like Adam Wrong Way had no problems climbing a 40 degree incline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMoOnGoWa75012 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 22 hours ago, Eyss said: Shot like a infomercial. I would love to know more about what current the blitz controller and motor can sustain. In theory they can ramp up the amps and make the c32 perform as well or better than a c40 at the risk of overheating quickly but hard numbers would be way better than "oh yeah it does more current" assuming that a c32 perform worst/better than any other motor is pure speculation, people like to complain without even ride the wheel, this is nuts imho. not to mention that most of the wheels we have on the market right now can climb 35/40 degree on reviews, something that you'll never find in a real world scenario lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 80% pwm around 90kmh Edited August 28 by EMA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 50 minutes ago, EMA said: assuming that a c32 perform worst/better than any other motor is pure speculation, people like to complain without even ride the wheel, this is nuts imho. not to mention that most of the wheels we have on the market right now can climb 35/40 degree on reviews, something that you'll never find in a real world scenario lol The steep climbs in reviews is a good torque indicator, very useful for folks who like to do technical off-roading, when we ride off-road here we do a lot of crazy stuff that requires a lot of torque like climbing some very steep technical rocks with roots on them etc, with enough torque main challenge instead becomes not loosing tire traction and you don't have to worry about what wheel can handle or not. Specially for me as a heavy rider it's very useful indicator. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Rawnei said: The steep climbs in reviews is a good torque indicator, very useful for folks who like to do technical off-roading, when we ride off-road here we do a lot of crazy stuff that requires a lot of torque like climbing some very steep technical rocks with roots on them etc, with enough torque main challenge instead becomes not loosing tire traction and you don't have to worry about what wheel can handle or not. Specially for me as a heavy rider it's very useful indicator. 😁 exactly what i mean, if you can't climb something it's related to grip or something else, almost any modern wheels can do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, EMA said: exactly what i mean, if you can't climb something it's related to grip or something else, almost any modern wheels can do it Maybe for lighter riders it doesn't make a big difference but for a heavy rider such as myself I can feel a difference between modern wheels actually, we (2 heavy riders) compared EX30 with C40 motor in off-road mode with Lynx for example and could feel the difference, was more effortless with Lynx. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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