eucinsea Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) Hello all, long time no see! I kinda dropped off the EUC planet for a bit with this and that but hit ewheels site today to see the V13 is available for pre-order. I gave a quick read over specs and seems like a very nice upgrade especially with all the hills here around Seattle and after having V11 suspension is a must, so many saves from sudden bumps that I ate on my v8/KS16x In-fact the only complaints I even have of my V11 (still on 1.2.1 fw need to check forums to see if I should upgrade that bad boy or leave it) are that my BLE cuts out after a few minutes of V11 starting leaving using apps like Darknessbot useless for me. I can not remember the last on that but it seemed to only be the first few V11 that had issues. Maybe an BLE firmware upgrade fixes it as well (on 3.6.1 of that) and that the handle switch is buggy and works sometimes but most the time does not. Both are woes I believe of pre-ordering on day 1 and getting that early early sweetness.. ha So would I be crazy for upgrading to the V13? From the info and bit of video I have seen so far seems like a huge jump in right direction for EUC but Ive been away so what do I know.. ha Edited October 26, 2022 by prasket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanman Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 If you want to go to that level of speed and range, are prepared for 100lb + wheels, and want to stay with InMotion, then the V13 is your option. Personally I find the suspension design underwhelming compared to what the other brands are doing. I also don't think the reliability of their new board design is proven yet, I would be waiting for evidence of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tawpie Posted October 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, eucinsea said: So would I be crazy for upgrading to the V13? I don't think so! But. The 2022 crop of new wheels that push the boundaries haven't had stellar launches so if you can be patient and wait for actual riders to discover the downsides, I would wait. A not-small portion of the first batch S22 owners are struggling with motor, suspension and control board issues. V12 owners had to wait months for a replacement control board that wouldn't drop them. Master owners are dealing with a bit of slop in the mechanics, the need to add an aftermarket 'shell' and early adopters got stuck with an ill advised (and incompatible with v2) battery configuration. T4 owners have the same motor issue as S22. The only successful 2022 first batch has been the SherMax, but it's an evolutionary release and not a 'from scratch new design'. Challenger is pushing a lot of corners of the envelope at the same time—they may have taken past lessons to heart and will have most of the serious wrinkles worked out before shipping, or not. Do you feel lucky? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetteh Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 If this year has taught me anything it's to never buy 1st or 2nd batch wheels. Plus, the V13 is going to be a huge jump from the V11 in terms of capability so be ready for power well-beyond what you're used to; with great power comes great responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begodecrashtestdummy Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 If I were you I’d go Sherman S but I’m sure the v13 will be a great wheel ..I’m going master pro 4800 wh .I want a wheel I can replace my car 90% of the time and this will do it 🤘😎 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Spaghetteh said: with great power comes great responsibility Well, unlike motorcycles, euc's also demand great skills before the rider can do much with it. So, unlike a motorcyclist who can claim that he or she accidentally went too fast, an euc rider has to be pretty deliberate in his or her actions to do so, with a lot of development and adaptation along the way. There is a saying among motorcyclists, you can be bold or grow old, but not both. One can be irresponsible for once or twice, it won't be much longer. There are only so many body parts, or how many times that you can break something. Edited October 26, 2022 by techyiam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Nothing crazy about wanting a nice new shiny wheel! Mind that it is going to be a quite different ride than a V11 with that huge tire (as you mention hills: braking might need more effort by the rider). One could argue whether buying a first batch wheel in 2022 is crazy. But at least there is a really nice early bird discount here, which I think is a fair trade and would work for me (if I wanted a V13). And even if there are problems you know they are going to be fixed eventually, the questions is just how awful it might be getting there So short answer: it's up to you, there's no clear reason to do one thing or the other. Trust your gut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eucinsea Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) Thank you for all the input.. Some very valid points and advice I will have to think about... Edited October 26, 2022 by eucinsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360rumors Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, eucinsea said: Thank you for all the input.. Some very valid points and advice I will have to think about... Bad thing is I just tried to update the firmware on my V11 to see if it fixes the BLE issue and whelp it appears bricked.. will not power on, no BLE when plugged in, app was just stuck on last update screen... no errors at all but wheel just turned off after 2/3 updates completed and was in final stages of last one... Havent dug too deep yet but seems this has happened to others as well. I think you just wait and make sure you have good Wi-Fi. I recall it took several minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eucinsea Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 yeah it came back to life so I deleted my comment. You must have responded before I deleted. it does say it failed and is doing the update again so let us see what happens this time.. its in progress now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360rumors Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, eucinsea said: yeah it came back to life so I deleted my comment. You must have responded before I deleted. it does say it failed and is doing the update again so let us see what happens this time.. its in progress now Ok I recall my first update failed and it had to try again. Don’t worry. It’s Inmotion not begode 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eucinsea Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 You are correct @360rumors It is all back up now, I am going to go test ride to store it out and see if BLE issue is fixed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetteh Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, techyiam said: Well, unlike motorcycles, euc's also demand great skills before the rider can do much with it. So, unlike a motorcyclist who can claim that he or she accidentally went too fast, an euc rider has to be pretty deliberate in his or her actions to do so, with a lot of development and adaptation along the way. I get what you're saying, though I don't agree that a rider's top-speed is necessarily an indication of how skilled they are. There's countless stories on this forum of riders getting spooked by wobbles at high speeds and losing control of their wheel. I personally know someone who had to learn that lesson the hard way during his first ride on my brand new 16X... they got a little too bold and ate it going too fast; fortunately, everyone and the wheel walked away in relatively one piece. I'm not sure how much of an issue wobbles are going to be with the V13 due to it's large profile... but it being 120lbs, I can't imagine it'll be easy to recover should they start. Anyway, I've been seeing a lot of riders with 30mph wheels talking about getting the V13 and while it's not quite like a new rider getting a Sherman as their first wheel I'd still advise to take it slow, especially with 120lbs of machine traveling 55mph. Edited October 27, 2022 by Spaghetteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Spaghetteh said: I'm not sure how much of an issue wobbles are going to be with the V13 due to it's large profile... but it being 120lbs, I can't imagine it'll be easy to recover should they start. Anyway, my general sentiment to take it slow, especially with 120lbs of machine traveling 55mph. In reality, I believe most if not all riders of the V13 going at 55 mph will be advanced riders. And these riders will have full knowledge of what they are getting themselves into. It won't be by accident. For example, the rider who crash his Master Pro going 100+ km/h in Dubai knew exactly what he was getting himself into. He, in particular, would crash no matter what, because he would not be satisfied with the top speed he had attained unless he had crashed first. Now, you can bet he won't ride past 100+ km/h again on that Master Pro, because he is pretty sure he knows where the limit of that wheel is. Edited October 27, 2022 by techyiam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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