Ro.man

That is correct. Both wheels have Fastace suspensions out of the box. However, I can only talk about the one on V14, because I have never ridden Lynx. Stock V14 suspension is based on a cheap MTB shock. Like with cheap mountain bikes, it would work well for the majority of the customers, including those who do jumps and drops, all because the spring is rather stiff. However, based on my previous experience with both cheap and expensive forks and shocks on bikes, I will confidently say there is a significant difference between them. It would be cool if Inmotion or Veteran, or any other EUC brand would offer Tier 1 brand suspension in stock or as an option. Before that happened, I would prefer the opportunity to upgrade.

That is more irrational. However, the way Fastace shock on V14 works out of the box - it has a lot of room for improvement. Both in comfort and responsivity.

Since I was preordering V14 in September, I didn’t know anything about Lynx and didn’t have this problem at that time ) However, after watching first reviews of Lynx, I started questioning my choice and even wanted to cancel the preorder in favor of Leaper Kim because I actually wanted a 20” wheel. There were only 2 things I didn’t like about Lynx: High pedals (I know you can lower them now, but at that point the solution wasn’t available). Fastace suspension. I actually prefer the design of fork-style suspension that Leaper Kim uses. It has less moving parts, meaning less things to worry about. I just don’t trust Fastace enough. That is probably similar to what @Unventor thinks about Begode. Coming from an MTB industry, I have only seen Fastace shocks on cheap bikes from Alibaba and never seen them on a quality product from a reputable brand. Out of the box v14 suspension works ok, but not great. I’m not a big fan of progressive springs with such low wheel travel, it just doesn’t have enogh travel to feel the light side of the spring. However, I realize why engineers limit travel to 85mm - increasing that number would raise pedal height and looks like that is what they tried to avoid. I knew I could change the feel of suspension with a linear spring and a better shock. Looking ahead, I have actually ordered a new shock and even tried fitting it and having a small test ride. Spoiler alert - the difference was substantial! However, it didn’t fit well with stock hardware, as there was a noticeable play and in suspension it is not acceptable. So I had to order a custom hardware for that shock. The problem is that Fastace use an older 12mm mounting standard, most modern shocks use 12.7mm hardware. After I receive the hardware and install the new shock again I will publish a detailed review here.

I didn't experience any problems with stock knobby on wet asphalt, but street tire just feels much better. As said many times before, street tire has more rounded shape, so the amount of rubber on the road is more consistent across a variety of lean angles.

Found a good deal for those of you who are in the US https://www.jensonusa.com/Fox-DHX2-Factory-2022-8

Just got a confirmation from Inmotion support. J

Hmm. The same page has this picture, which specifies 52.5mm. That is closer to 2".

It's about time for me to provide an update on my experience with the Pirelli Angel Scooter tire on my Inmotion Adventure EUC as this tire have really grown on me. After logging over 300 kilometers on Pirelli, I've become intimately familiar with its behaviour, and I must say, I'm thoroughly impressed. In terms of safety, this tire has exceeded my expectations, particularly when inflated to pressures below 30 psi (I weigh 95kg with gear). Gone are the days of wobbling or sudden directional shifts that plagued my initial rides when I inflated it to 36 psi. Navigating turns with this tire is a breeze; however, during fast and sharp turns, I've noticed the need to lean a bit more to initiate direction changes. While this took some getting used to initially, it's now became my second nature and feels just right. It's incredible how effortlessly I can now ride in traffic near the beeps, execute precise turns, and brake when necessary. Confidence is key when riding, and I've never felt more assured on my wheel than I do with this tire. I've taken it off-road, tackling rocky uphills, gravel paths, and even dusty, moon-like terrains without a hitch. Simply put, this tire excels in dry conditions across various surfaces. In my opinion, it's the ultimate EUC street tire, and I'm looking forward to many more miles of smooth rides ahead.

I've already posted that in V14 topic, but think it could benefit the current discussion as well. Michelin City Grip vs. Pirelli Angel Scooter: A Side-by-Side Comparison Angel Scooter is on the wheel now and I’m ready to compare it with City Grip that I had before. I couldn’t imagine that these 2 street tires from well known brands could behave that different! On paper they are both 90/90-12 tires with road pattern. Pirelli maintains a slightly smaller outer diameter that fits V14 without any rubbing issues. I have yet to test it with a fender; however, I've noticed that, in contrast, the Michelin tire tends to make contact with the wheel arc at higher pressures even without a fender. Weight-wise, the Angel Scooter (2.7 kg) is slightly lighter than the City Grip (2.9 kg), yet still heavier than the standard knobby tire (2.1 kg). Some would guess that this makes the tire lighter and more nimble, but that cannot be further away from the truth. The fundamental variance lies in the tires' profiles. Pirelli sports a smooth U-shaped contour, while Michelin features a “pointier” V-shape. This distinction drastically alters riding dynamics, especially on an EUC. Initially, the Pirelli's neutral handling surprised me; it didn't exhibit the same pull to one side that I experienced with my previous Michelin tire. I attribute this trait to a possible defect in my specific tire rather than a general issue with this model. I’m not claiming that all Michelin City Grip tires pull to one side, I assume most of them don’t. At lower speeds, both tires display similar agility. However, as the speed surpasses 25-30 km/h, Pirelli desire to maintain a straight path and require significantly more effort to maneuver. Turning on Pirelli feels more laborious, demanding substantial physical input to achieve direction changes. Conversely, the Michelin responds almost seamlessly to directional intentions. You just have to look towards the turn and it follows. Carving on high speed is also a lot slower on Pirelli tire. Where on Michelin it was as quick as thinking to carve, Pirelli takes time to change direction, it is like steering a truck. Yet, in windy conditions, Pirelli shines. While Michelin necessitated major body adjustments to combat side winds, Pirelli allowed for easy compensation with minimal shifts, proving superior for sustained high-speed travel on highways. When it comes to bad roads, looks like Pirelli is a bit more sensitive to them. While on perfectly flat roads it is flawless, some road imperfections can throw the tire to the side or cause a wobble, however the wobbles are usually easy to put down with this tire. Comfort-wise both tires eat small bumps quite a bit better than the stock knobby tire. However, if we compare these 2 street tires, Michelin takes the crown on comfort. Probably because it has much softer sidewalls and can deform more. Because of those sidewalls installation ease also differed; the Michelin was easy to mount, whereas fitting the Pirelli required soap, water, and inflating to 120 psi to ensure proper seating. In Summary, Pirelli Angel Scooter excels in straight, high-speed stability, making it an outstanding choice for long-distance highway adventures. On the other hand, Michelin City Grip offers a lighter, more agile feel, significantly enhancing the fun factor in riding, particularly in high-speed carving and cornering scenarios. My ideal EUC street tire would embody the middle ground between these two — with a leaning preference towards the characteristics of the Michelin for its enjoyable ride experience.

I have followed the same video but noticed that I couldn't reach motor bolts before the pedals are removed, so in my case it was a bit longer.

I would say that stock knobby tire that came on my batch 2 wheel on asphalt feels similar to Pirelli Angel Scooter, but the latter is more comfortable, better in slow speed turns and absolutely quiet.

In my case it was obvious since when I reversed the wheel backwards it started pulling to the other side. I tried lowering the pressure down to 23 psi but the asymmetry was still noticeable. That would be cool if you could do that and come up with a chart of tire "pointyness". I would bet that Michelin will be at the pointiest part of that spectrum ) https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ccd588d0-b805-4ac2-9fb0-bbe8f1ad0083

Michelin City Grip vs. Pirelli Angel Scooter: A Side-by-Side Comparison Angel Scooter is on now and I’m ready to compare it with City Grip that I had before. I couldn’t imagine that these 2 street tires from well known brands could behave that different! On paper they are both 90/90-12 tires with road pattern. Pirelli maintains a slightly smaller outer diameter that fits V14 without any rubbing issues. I have yet to test it with a fender; however, I've noticed that, in contrast, the Michelin tire tends to make contact with the wheel arc at higher pressures even without a fender. Weight-wise, the Angel Scooter (2.7 kg) is slightly lighter than the City Grip (2.9 kg), yet still heavier than the standard knobby tire (2.1 kg). Some would guess that this makes the tire lighter and more nimble, but that cannot be further away from the truth. The fundamental variance lies in the tires' profiles. Pirelli sports a smooth U-shaped contour, while Michelin features a “pointier” V-shape. This distinction drastically alters riding dynamics, especially on an EUC. Initially, the Pirelli's neutral handling surprised me; it didn't exhibit the same pull to one side that I experienced with my previous Michelin tire. I attribute this trait to a possible defect in my specific tire rather than a general issue with this model. I’m not claiming that all Michelin City Grip tires pull to one side, I assume most of them don’t. At lower speeds, both tires display similar agility. However, as the speed surpasses 25-30 km/h, Pirelli desire to maintain a straight path and require significantly more effort to maneuver. Turning on Pirelli feels more laborious, demanding substantial physical input to achieve direction changes. Conversely, the Michelin responds almost seamlessly to directional intentions. You just have to look towards the turn and it follows. Carving on high speed is also a lot slower on Pirelli tire. Where on Michelin it was as quick as thinking to carve, Pirelli takes time to change direction, it is like steering a truck. Yet, in windy conditions, Pirelli shines. While Michelin necessitated major body adjustments to combat side winds, Pirelli allowed for easy compensation with minimal shifts, proving superior for sustained high-speed travel on highways. When it comes to bad roads, looks like Pirelli is a bit more sensitive to them. While on perfectly flat roads it is flawless, some road imperfections can throw the tire to the side or cause a wobble, however the wobbles are usually easy to put down with this tire. Comfort-wise both tires eat small bumps quite a bit better than the stock knobby tire. However, if we compare these 2 street tires, Michelin takes the crown on comfort. Probably because it has much softer sidewalls and can deform more. Because of those sidewalls installation ease also differed; the Michelin was easy to mount, whereas fitting the Pirelli required soap, water, and inflating to 120 psi to ensure proper seating. In Summary, Pirelli Angel Scooter excels in straight, high-speed stability, making it an outstanding choice for long-distance highway adventures. On the other hand, Michelin City Grip offers a lighter, more agile feel, significantly enhancing the fun factor in riding, particularly in high-speed carving and cornering scenarios. My ideal EUC street tire would embody the middle ground between these two — with a leaning preference towards the characteristics of the Michelin for its enjoyable ride experience.

Since damper looks the same, can the spring be purchased separately?

about 90 width x 72 from the rim to the highest part of the tire and it is City Grip I