Jerome Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I was reading in another topic when I saw statements about the "ONEWHEEL" seeming to be slow. They go about 19-20 mph with the newest one being a little faster if you don't mine risking a face plant. The best selling "Boosted Board" eskateboard goes 22 mph. Most of the other players go 20 to ~ 26 mph. A few custom types do 30+. Escooters typically are in the 15-18 mph range with more powerful models capable of doing ~ 28 mph. The top models are in the 35 - 40 mph range. Electric bikes are mostly in the 20 - 25 mph range - throttle only. Gotway has pretty much made the EUC the dominate force on the bike-ways and roads. (If one chooses to use the speed). Other than the electric assisted recumbent featured in one of Marty's video he appears to be king of the road. Very few people don't want the availability of speed, even if they never use it. Speed is seductive, potentially addictive, and often abused. I am older than dirt, so when I got my Ninebot E+ on a super close-out deal around Xmas time, the maximum 13 mph speed was just fine. During the early learning process I didn't know it but it was limited to 6 mph. I never experienced a warning or tilt-back .. because I thought 5 mph was scary fast. Once it started to "click" I got my first tilt-back, read the manual and set the app (I had the require KM) for maximum speed. Now I ride with tilt-back occurring quite frequently, such that I handle it quickly and with little stress. I want more speed. Jason (Ewheels) has on his site that the sweet spot for the average user is 16 -18 mph. I believe this to be true and would like to cruise in that range. Gotway's range, not speed, is probably ultimately why its wheels stay in demand even with build and QA issues from time-to-time. If my E+ had twice the range I would live with it .. at least for another year or so. I , like most on this forum, am anxiously awaiting the arrival of the wheels from INmotion, King Song and Ninebot. I am, however, not looking forward to their ~$1500 price tags. There is nothing out there for me at a reasonable price. The V8 has insufficient range for my 240 lbs weight, the King Song 14s is to small a wheel for my skills and riding terrain. Only the Ninebot Z line offers me hope. I can live with the Z6 and with the Z8 for sure. What will they cost and how will they and the 4 inch tire perform? We shall see. By-the-way I am at a stage where I am starting to think about riding backwards .. Oh brother! That sound you hear in the background is cluck, cluck .. cluck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Gotway America sells small battery models of these top wheels that other sellers don't offer, because the profit margins are very small. You can get an M Super 3 for the same $999 price as this small battery Tesla. Well-heeled EUC riders will say stay away from the MSuper 3 because it is "old" technology, but that argument doesn't hold up for the Tesla. SALE Tesla 680 Regular price$1,199.00 Sale price$999.00 https://gotwayamerica.com/collections/tesla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 Wow! Good to know! Very tempting .. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieV Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Scouts Honor said: Gotway America sells small battery models of these top wheels that other sellers don't offer, because the profit margins are very small. You can get an M Super 3 for the same $999 price as this small battery Tesla. Well-heeled EUC riders will say stay away from the MSuper 3 because it is "old" technology, but that argument doesn't hold up for the Tesla. SALE Tesla 680 Regular price$1,199.00 Sale price$999.00 https://gotwayamerica.com/collections/tesla Looking at the specifications on Gotway America's site, the 680Wh Tesla that you've linked to runs at 67.2V as opposed to 84V for the 1020Wh Tesla. The motor is still rated at 1900W, though. How this translates into appreciable differences in top speed and torque, I don't know. Still it's something to be aware of and should probably be taken into consideration when making a purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourtoys7 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Personally, I would Not even look at 680 Wh Tesla, even at 1020 is low, considering that 1300 and 1600 available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, yourtoys7 said: Personally, I would Not even look at 680 Wh Tesla, even at 1020 is low, considering that 1300 and 1600 available. Never mind our little people problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, yourtoys7 said: Personally, I would Not even look at 680 Wh Tesla, even at 1020 is low, considering that 1300 and 1600 available. Hey, how did you like your MCM 3 by the way? Pretty sure I studied your old comments while researching this winter. I'm liking mine so far, I just regret not saving more money for the 680 wh instead of my 340 wh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourtoys7 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said: Hey, how did you like your MCM 3 by the way? Pretty sure I studied your old comments while researching this winter. I'm liking mine so far, I just regret not saving more money for the 680 wh instead of my 340 wh. I would gladly get one for the right price, it was for sure by far one of the best wheels I owned, but once Ive tested the acm 680 and hit around 35-40 km/h, I just couldn't go back, ha ha. Speed is very, very addictive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, yourtoys7 said: I would gladly get one for the right price, it was for sure by far one of the best wheels I owned, but once Ive tested the acm 680 and hit around 35-40 km/h, I just couldn't go back, ha ha. Speed is very, very addictive. Yeah, part of me doesn't want to know what a good speed rush feels like. Same reason I never tried heroin. What's the point of trying something you know isn't safe, and that you know you're probably going to crave for the rest of your life? MCM3 680 still goes for $650 from Tec-Toys. MCM4 goes for same price from Gotway USA. Marty Backe is either borrowing or buying an MCM5 and might/should have some "stress test" videos for us soon. 1500 watt motor I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourtoys7 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: Yeah, part of me doesn't want to know what a good speed rush feels like. Same reason I never tried heroin. What's the point of trying something you know isn't safe, and that you know you're probably going to crave for the rest of your life? MCM3 680 still goes for $650 from Tec-Toys. MCM4 goes for same price from Gotway USA. Marty Backe is either borrowing or buying an MCM5 and might/should have some "stress test" videos for us soon. 1500 watt motor I believe. I dont do drugs and never have., but trust me speed is very addictive and can be very safe if controled, ha ha. I have reached 53 km/h and to be very honest with you I did not feel unsafe at any point, but if I could have a safe wheel and do 60/ 70 or higher I would gladly buy it. Not for the fact that I wanna go fast, but for the safety of it and for an opportunity to test it, lol...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, yourtoys7 said: I dont do drugs and never have., but trust me speed is very addictive and can be very safe if controled, ha ha. I have reached 53 km/h and to be very honest with you I did not feel unsafe at any point, but if I could have a safe wheel and do 60/ 70 or higher I would gladly buy it. Not for the fact that I wanna go fast, but for the safety of it and for an opportunity to test it, lol...... Yeah that's what all the speed junkies say, "for safety" lol. I have a feeling the MCM5 at 25-26mph would feel slightly unsafe with that 14" wheel, but I wouldn't know. Heard it feels very stable at speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourtoys7 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I dont think I could go back to 14", my sons acm 16" feels flimsy to be honest, but the msuper feels like a tank... sold, stable and very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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