Charles McLean Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 It looks like my Gotway MSuper V3s+ w/Tesla Motor is officially faster than my Tesla! With my Tesla, I had a motor cutout at 34.3 MPH (see previous thread). Today with my Gotway MSuper V3s+T, I managed to get to 35.9 mph. What shocked me, is that I slowed down as soon as I heard 5 beeps (DDDDD). I have my first and second alarm disabled and tilt back turned off. Maybe I didn’t hear the 5 beep alarm earlier due to wind noise, but as soon as I heard it I let off the throttle and came back down to speed. It wasn’t until I got home and uploaded my ride track from my Garmin Edge 520, that I noticed my top speed. So, way to go Gotway! SO. MUCH. FUN! @Scott Henley ... I hope you enjoy yours when it finally arrives! Here is a pic of my dashboard display from my Garmin Edge 520 upload: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Thanks for letting us know, and I am glad you didnt have the bad cut out this time! What was Tesla's battery % at cutout vs Msuper's battery at 40mph? Did you measure your speed the same way for both wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles McLean Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Cloud said: What was Tesla's battery % at cutout vs Msuper's battery at 40mph? Did you measure your speed the same way for both wheels? @Cloud I was probably at 70% battery when my Tesla cut-out. I was only 11 miles into the ride. I think my MSuper V3s+T battery was around 80% when I hit 35.9 mph. I think I was about 10 - 11 miles into my ride when I was going my fastest. I haven't hit 40 mph ... yet ... LOL. I think I need to lose some weight first before the wheel will let me get up that fast. :-) At 205 lbs, I'm very pleased with the performance of both the Tesla and the MSuper V3s+T!! I don't think I could go back to a slower wheel after owning these two! Yes, I measured my speed exactly the same way for both rides. I use my road bike computer, a Garmin Edge 520 GPS unit, with the recording interval set to 1 second. I found that using wheel log isn't accurate for the "max speed" if you jump off a curb or have a spin out and the wheel accelerates quickly because it isn't under load. That's why I record my speed and GPS track with an external unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Charles McLean said: I think I need to lose some weight first before the wheel will let me get up that fast. :-) If you really want to lose weight, let me know, I will teach you how. I just dropped 40 lbs a few months ago. But by the time you lose, they will come up with a stronger wheel anyway, so I wouldn’t worry about it too much) 33 minutes ago, Charles McLean said: I don't think I could go back to a slower wheel after owning these two! That is usually the case. I couldn’t possibly be happy with a slow wheel again, even though 40 kph is fast enough cruising speed for me, I wouldn’t dare going 40mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Charles McLean said: Today with my Gotway MSuper V3s+T, I managed to get to 35.9 mph. That is super fast! I know everyone wants to speed test there new wheels but is it worth it? Suppose I can’t be critical as I use to have that mindset as well. Be safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Makes geometric sense. Same motor, bigger tire diameter = faster. In fact, 34.3 * 18/16 = 38.6, so the real question is: why did it beep earlier? Must be torque limit, fatty! In seriousness, I would not go that close to the limit (except maybe testing it once), that's asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemoy Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 This is very dangerous what you are doing. I hope you don’t get hurt trying to find out what the limit is for the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 13 hours ago, Charles McLean said: It looks like my Gotway MSuper V3s+ w/Tesla Motor is officially faster than my Tesla! With my Tesla, I had a motor cutout at 34.3 MPH (see previous thread). Today with my Gotway MSuper V3s+T, I managed to get to 35.9 mph. What shocked me, is that I slowed down as soon as I heard 5 beeps (DDDDD). I have my first and second alarm disabled and tilt back turned off. Maybe I didn’t hear the 5 beep alarm earlier due to wind noise, but as soon as I heard it I let off the throttle and came back down to speed. It wasn’t until I got home and uploaded my ride track from my Garmin Edge 520, that I noticed my top speed. So, way to go Gotway! SO. MUCH. FUN! @Scott Henley ... I hope you enjoy yours when it finally arrives! Here is a pic of my dashboard display from my Garmin Edge 520 upload: Wow, you do enjoy living in the edge Glad you're enjoying the new MSuper. You can imagine how my ACM2 rides, being a lighter and more agile version of your wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 11 hours ago, Charles McLean said: @Cloud I was probably at 70% battery when my Tesla cut-out. I was only 11 miles into the ride. I think my MSuper V3s+T battery was around 80% when I hit 35.9 mph. I think I was about 10 - 11 miles into my ride when I was going my fastest. I haven't hit 40 mph ... yet ... LOL. I think I need to lose some weight first before the wheel will let me get up that fast. :-) At 205 lbs, I'm very pleased with the performance of both the Tesla and the MSuper V3s+T!! I don't think I could go back to a slower wheel after owning these two! Yes, I measured my speed exactly the same way for both rides. I use my road bike computer, a Garmin Edge 520 GPS unit, with the recording interval set to 1 second. I found that using wheel log isn't accurate for the "max speed" if you jump off a curb or have a spin out and the wheel accelerates quickly because it isn't under load. That's why I record my speed and GPS track with an external unit. I'm sure that you know this, but I would limit your super-fast riding to >50% battery levels. Love your reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles McLean Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Hey everyone, thank you for the comments and the concern. I appreciate the advice and wisdom of the group. I always wear full protective gear, motorcycle helmet, knee pads, elbow pads, wrist guards and light weight motorcycle jacket with back, elbow and shoulder padding. In this particular instance I wasn't trying to set any land speed records, I had just found a nice smooth stretch of asphalt and was enjoying cruising down the road when I heard the 5 beeps and slowed down. It wasn't until I got back home that I realized I was traveling as fast as I was. I had the 2nd alarm set previously, but it keeps going off around 22 mph, which seems incredibly slow (but I guess it's all relative). In any case, thanks for the concern and advice. I respect the opinion of the members of this group! At least we can add one more data point to the performance of the MSuper V3s+T! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Charles McLean said: Hey everyone, thank you for the comments and the concern. I appreciate the advice and wisdom of the group. I always wear full protective gear, motorcycle helmet, knee pads, elbow pads, wrist guards and light weight motorcycle jacket with back, elbow and shoulder padding. In this particular instance I wasn't trying to set any land speed records, I had just found a nice smooth stretch of asphalt and was enjoying cruising down the road when I heard the 5 beeps and slowed down. It wasn't until I got back home that I realized I was traveling as fast as I was. I had the 2nd alarm set previously, but it keeps going off around 22 mph, which seems incredibly slow (but I guess it's all relative). In any case, thanks for the concern and advice. I respect the opinion of the members of this group! At least we can add one more data point to the performance of the MSuper V3s+T! I am not that surprised that it is able to go that fast...(while i personnally would not go over 25mph-40kmh). Have you done a „lift up speed test“? to see the max capable speed without person on it? I would exspect it at 70-75kmh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemoy Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Charles McLean said: Hey everyone, thank you for the comments and the concern. I appreciate the advice and wisdom of the group. I always wear full protective gear, motorcycle helmet, knee pads, elbow pads, wrist guards and light weight motorcycle jacket with back, elbow and shoulder padding. In this particular instance I wasn't trying to set any land speed records, I had just found a nice smooth stretch of asphalt and was enjoying cruising down the road when I heard the 5 beeps and slowed down. It wasn't until I got back home that I realized I was traveling as fast as I was. I had the 2nd alarm set previously, but it keeps going off around 22 mph, which seems incredibly slow (but I guess it's all relative). In any case, thanks for the concern and advice. I respect the opinion of the members of this group! At least we can add one more data point to the performance of the MSuper V3s+T! I'm sure you've seen enough crashes to know even with full armor it doesn't guarantee that you will not get hurt. At least you are not making a video of your attempts. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 since the msuper battery is bigger at 80% it can do full speed but the tesla battery at 70% is 700wh and the msuper battery at 70% is 1120wh thats more than the tesla is a full charge and if the msuper needed to have 700wh left then it needed to be at 45% so its clear that it faster because more charge in the msuper battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Shad0z said: since the msuper battery is bigger at 80% it can do full speed but the tesla battery at 70% is 700wh and the msuper battery at 70% is 1120wh thats more than the tesla is a full charge and if the msuper needed to have 700wh left then it needed to be at 45% so its clear that it faster because more charge in the msuper battery Sorry, man, thats actually nonsens... The battery range has nothing to to do with what speed the wheel is capable. Nothing at all...You can argument that a bigger battery is able t give more torque, as it is able to give more amperage! But speed is NOT amperage related....its voltage related... And if you have a Tesla at 50%(510wh) or a Msuper at 50%(800wh)....its both about 72volt.... The main speed difference here -as both have the same motor- is just because of the wheel diameter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, KingSong69 said: Sorry, man, thats actually nonsens... The battery range has nothing to to do with what speed the wheel is capable. Have you ever seen anyone go 30mph on 20% battery? Ammount of cells is related to speed when the battery percentage gets lower Lithium ion batteries have a slight voltage and amperage drop off when battery level gets lower and it gets a lot more drastic near lower battery level For example thats why you cant drive fast at low battery And bigger battery means more cells (usually) and more cells mean the load is more distributed. And a smaller amount of depletion on each cell. Wich makes the drop off less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourtoys7 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 @Charles McLean very nice ride and achieving these speeds, I happy to hear you do wear Full gear. Just be safe...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhada Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I'm thinking of buying an msuper V3s 1600wh. Is there any way of knowing what engine is used? So far googling only gives me the different wh options, none mentioning the Tesla motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Rhada said: I'm thinking of buying an msuper V3s 1600wh. Is there any way of knowing what engine is used? So far googling only gives me the different wh options, none mentioning the Tesla motor. i would reccomend a tesla or acm2. Then you can know for sure they have the motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles McLean Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Rhada said: I'm thinking of buying an msuper V3s 1600wh. Is there any way of knowing what engine is used? So far googling only gives me the different wh options, none mentioning the Tesla motor. Here is where I got my MSuper V3s+T: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Latest-upgrade-Gotway-Msuper3S-1600WH-84V-Life-150KM-the-maximum-speed-of-55KM-H-the-fastest/32832913078.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.bJ95D6 Since you're overseas, you can order directly from China and e-mail Chen and specifically request to make sure you get the Tesla motor. If you want to order from a very reputable US Dealer, then I highly recommend @Jason McNeil. He can verify the MSuper V3s+ has the Tesla motor and he even had his batch of MSuper V3s+T's custom ordered to ensure there is a reverse diode on the charging port to prevent accidental short circuit and prevent injury. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegoxxx Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 That's right from AliExpress. MSUPER V3S has really Tesla engine, someone can confirm this to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 11 hours ago, Rhada said: I'm thinking of buying an msuper V3s 1600wh. Is there any way of knowing what engine is used? At the moment, the Tesla-ized ms3 is available only on Aliexpress. I don't know any Western dealer that has these listed and available yet. You could ask Ian from Speedyfeet if/when he gets some for a good EU dealer: info@speedyfeet.uk - or any other EU Gotway dealer. 11 hours ago, Shad0z said: i would reccomend a tesla or acm2. Then you can know for sure they have the motor That's nonsense, just buy from the right source. If necessary, wait for more availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourtoys7 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 There is situation on a flat straight away where I can see hitting 50km/h, 60 or possible higher....., but all I would like to have is a safer wheel. Do you have to go fast.... NO, do you want to, Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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