Smoother Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, novazeus said: i’m 4th generation floridian. definitely a different florida now from when my childhood was 60+ years ago, like everyplace on earth. i’ve lived in every major city/counties, and spent time traveling to almost everyplace in florida because of my work. tampa bay area is the least assholic of anyplace i know of in florida. been a long time since i’ve been to the panhandle but i write that off because it’s too cold. never been to california and it looks pretty but i’d rather deal with hurricanes than what natural disasters californians have to deal with. my prayers that they get decent weather to battle the fires. 14 From my experience of Florida, I would say that Miami is the most "assholic" I don't like the people there, in general. I worked for an American airline, so I got to see a lot of America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litewave Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Smoother said: Wow, you guys make America and Canada sound like shit. I lived there (USA) 28 years and loved it. The freedom, the wide open spaces, the lifestyle, the weather. AND the people. Yes, the people! Sure you run into your fair share of ass-holes, but that's true everywhere. Plenty of "arse"-holes here in England, people! And I'm sure other nationalities represented on this forum, have their own ass-hole stories, I'm reminded of @Pingouin s recent run in, in France. Given the right personal circumstances, I'd move back to the US in a Heartbeat. Despite the current political situation, and the lack of affordable health care, America is still one of the greatest places in the world to live; not every neighborhood in every city, sure, but overall, absolutely. @WARPed1701D YES, MOVE if that county is so terrible. Choose better next time. As for sharing roads with drivers, I don't do it much, only when I have to, or when the roads are quiet. If traffic builds up, I hop up onto the sidewalk. I don't like riding in traffic, too dangerous. I don't even ride motorcycles anymore because of the danger. As for retaliation or verbal fights; EUCs are illegal here, so I'm automatically in the wrong place. Add to that I've only seen one other EUC here, and I'm the only suspect in a confrontation. It wouldn't be that hard to track me down. So I take the high road, and do not add my anger to any angry situations. I did join the London EUC FaceTube channel, but I'm always Wheeling on the coast at the weekend when they do their group rides, and I avoid as much as possible going into London (arse-hole central) I also ride with headphones, so it would be pretty pointless for any ass-hole to shout something rude or stupid at me because I can't hear them anyway, or I can pretend I didn't hear them. Either way, they end up looking stupid, because they got ignored. No lectures about the dangers of headphones, please. Remember, I rarely ride in the road, and have my head on a swivel, when I do. Americans are great people. Unfortunately, they are hell-bent on tearing themselves apart, much to the delight of their adversaries. I am very fortunate to be in a great place where the trails are awesome, the people are decent, and the rules somewhat fair. Of the several countries and American cities I have visited and lived in, I am glad to be where I am for now. "Happiness is not having what you want, it is wanting what your have." - Sheryl Crow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, Smoother said: From my experience of Florida, I would say that Miami is the most "assholic" I don't like the people there, in general. I worked for an American airline, so I got to see a lot of America. yeah, i didn’t wanna say it, but nothing gapes like miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, novazeus said: gapes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARPed1701D Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Smoother said: I think you might have some coastline somewhere near you, no? Yes I do. Sadly most of it is owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatcat Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 13 hours ago, WARPed1701D said: Yes I do. Sadly most of it is owned. I wish Sweden had a semi-CA/FL-style climate There are, as everywhere, pros and cons living where I live. The greatest downside being the dark and wet winter half of the year. Taxes are high and there are some problems of getting our money's worth from them. Still and all, I think quite a few of you would be amazed during the summers here... Part of it is that we have a very low population density, which means there are vast areas where you can go for miles and miles without seeing a living soul. Part of it is what is called "allemansrätt" (all mens rights), which means that there are very few areas, roads, woods, coastlines and so on, that have a "no trespassers" sign all over them. Basically you can't throw people off your land, unless they disturb the wildlife or vegetation, litters or in general make a nuisance of themselves. Or to be more precise, you can - if the land in question is within your immediate perimeter and they being there invades your privacy. It's a bit like the whole bloody country is a 17300 mi2 large national park... with 100000 lakes - most of them easily clean enough to swim in, quite a few of them clean enough to drink from. This is an old tradition, spanning half a millennia back in time - and we kind of take it for granted. Swedes visiting abroad may look rather stunned when someone tells them to bug off, when all they did was some trekking in the woods... There are even rules regarding building all the way down to the waterfront, just to avoid the hedging in of the coastlines. While I find the implicit conflict between private property and public privileges interesting, this is something that actually works here. Damn, now I long for summer... I live in the centre of Gothenburg, the second largest city in Sweden. On my wheel I can reach this place in about 20-25 minutes.... Another 5-10 minutes, and I can be here, trying my luck with my fly-rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 20 hours ago, Smoother said: Last weekend I did Eastbourne on Saturday, and Brighton on Sunday. Took some hot mulled wine in a Thermos and enjoyed a cheap day out in the fresh sea air Drunk in Charge of an EUC, THAT would be a first ?. They can’t legally breathalyse a cyclist as I understand it but an electric vehicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Keith said: Drunk in Charge of an EUC, THAT would be a first ?. They can’t legally breathalyse a cyclist as I understand it but an electric vehicle? Drunk in Charge of an EUC, THAT would be a first ?. They can’t legally breathalyse a cyclist as I understand it but an electric vehicle? Drunk in Charge of an EUC, THAT would be a first ?. They can’t legally breathalyse a cyclist as I understand it but an electric vehicle? Eh, 'scuse me! Who's drunk now? Whos's drunk now? Whos's drunk now? Actually, I wheel pretty well when drunk, I know, I've seen me do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 I thought I got out clean from my encounter with the bus, but my shoulders started hurting a few days after and have got worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, mezzanine said: I thought I got out clean from my encounter with the bus, but my shoulders started hurting a few days after and have got worse. Any luck identifying the driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Smoother said: Any luck identifying the driver? There was no uncertainty about the identity of the driver. What recourse I've got is a whole other question, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, mezzanine said: There was no uncertainty about the identity of the driver. What recourse I've got is a whole other question, unfortunately. I don't know Cannuk law. Have you spoken to an attorney? There might be the price of a new wheel in it for you. Pain and suffering, mental anguish, etc. The bus company is hoping you will just go away. Let them know you aren't going anywhere. It's not about being greedy, it's about them being punished for hiring bad drivers and poorly training them. One or two inches either way and you could be dead now, or wheelchair bound for life. A settlement with you is cheap, and a wake up call for their driver training. Bus drivers must be aware of their surrounding at all times, especially when turning. This is not new, or news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Scatcat said: I wish Sweden had a semi-CA/FL-style climate There are, as everywhere, pros and cons living where I live. The greatest downside being the dark and wet winter half of the year. Taxes are high and there are some problems of getting our money's worth from them. Still and all, I think quite a few of you would be amazed during the summers here... Part of it is that we have a very low population density, which means there are vast areas where you can go for miles and miles without seeing a living soul. Part of it is what is called "allemansrätt" (all mens rights), which means that there are very few areas, roads, woods, coastlines and so on, that have a "no trespassers" sign all over them. Basically you can't throw people off your land, unless they disturb the wildlife or vegetation, litters or in general make a nuisance of themselves. Or to be more precise, you can - if the land in question is within your immediate perimeter and they being there invades your privacy. It's a bit like the whole bloody country is a 17300 mi2 large national park... with 100000 lakes - most of them easily clean enough to swim in, quite a few of them clean enough to drink from. This is an old tradition, spanning half a millennia back in time - and we kind of take it for granted. Swedes visiting abroad may look rather stunned when someone tells them to bug off, when all they did was some trekking in the woods... There are even rules regarding building all the way down to the waterfront, just to avoid the hedging in of the coastlines. While I find the implicit conflict between private property and public privileges interesting, this is something that actually works here. Damn, now I long for summer... I live in the centre of Gothenburg, the second largest city in Sweden. On my wheel I can reach this place in about 20-25 minutes.... Another 5-10 minutes, and I can be here, trying my luck with my fly-rod. I suspect that you really appreciate your riding season because it is so short. I'm sure that you have absolutely beautiful trails to ride. We adjust to wherever we live - what choice do we have after all. But I'm glad that I no longer have to adjust to the Chicago winters, where I grew up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 hours ago, mezzanine said: I thought I got out clean from my encounter with the bus, but my shoulders started hurting a few days after and have got worse. Go to a doctor (like a sport medicine or orthopedic specialist), and don't underestimate this. I've had a crash recently and my shoulder hurt a bit (just like it was bruised, nothing worse, but consistently and I could not move my arm due to hematoma in the joint), and everyone told me shoulder problems need to be diagnosed and fixed immediately (if there are any) or you can have severe consequences (like Osteoarthritis 10 years later from uneven muscular stress on your shoulder joint due to changes from a crash). Got an MRI just to be sure (nothing wrong to be seen), but shoulder = dangerous if not meticulously dealt with right away. Especially if it's from such an accident where someone else is at fault. Especially if they're getting worse. Don't skip things just because you think it's not strictly necessary to do them, and bitterly regret that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 Thanks for the feedback to those I haven't yet responded to directly. I'm booked in on Monday for a doctor's appointment to get my shoulder checked out. Realistically, the next person to hit me should pray I'm injured or that there's no male in the vehicle. I don't say that to sound like a tough guy (I'm not), but I just have a hard time envisioning another outcome. I definitely underestimated this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven D Wheeler Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 6 hours ago, Marty Backe said: I suspect that you really appreciate your riding season because it is so short. I'm sure that you have absolutely beautiful trails to ride. We adjust to wherever we live - what choice do we have after all. But I'm glad that I no longer have to adjust to the Chicago winters, where I grew up This will be my 48th Winter here in Chicago. They never get any better. Didn't know you were from here Marty? What neighborhood did you grow up in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Steven D Wheeler said: This will be my 48th Winter here in Chicago. They never get any better. Didn't know you were from here Marty? What neighborhood did you grow up in? Of course when I say Chicago, it was the suburbs. I grew up in Deerfield, north of Chicago. Left in 83' when I was 23, for sunnier job prospects in Southern California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 17 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Of course when I say Chicago, it was the suburbs. I grew up in Deerfield, north of Chicago. Left in 83' when I was 23, for sunnier job prospects in Southern California. No pun intended, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 On 8/12/2017 at 5:58 AM, Smoother said: Eh, 'scuse me! Who's drunk now? Whos's drunk now? Whos's drunk now? Actually, I wheel pretty well when drunk, I know, I've seen me do it. I'll second that... The "semi-legal" status of an EUC here in New Zealand means that DIC laws don't (currently) apply. So after a few drinks on a Friday night, the most practical way to collect a good curry is by riding! I'm not sure, but I think I may ride better after a few drinks. But even if I'm not, it definitely hurts less when you fall off!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who_the Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, The Fat Unicyclist said: I'm not sure, but I think I may ride better after a few drinks. CHEERS to that brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 8 hours ago, The Fat Unicyclist said: But even if I'm not, it definitely hurts less when you fall off!!! I think, if this is a statement based on experience, then ... "!I think I may ride better after a few drinks" is probably not true. cheers either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Eisenman Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 On 12/7/2017 at 2:22 PM, meepmeepmayer said: hematoma in the joint) Years ago (2003) I was shoveling snow and lifting the shovel fulls of snow to an over the shoulder position. The motion resulted in a pain and swelling in my elbow. The elbow swelled up really big. After going to a doctor it was determined that I had ruptured the 'bursal sac' in the elbow. Treatment went as follows: 1- withdrawal of blood red colored fluid from the joint with a hypodermic needle ( about a 50 cc syringe). The doctor commented that 'synovial fluid' is normally clear and that the veinous blood color was from blood from the site of injury leaking into the ruptured bursal sac (leaking blood = local area hematoma). 2- placing the arm (lower and upper) into a plaster cast for several weeks Removal of the cast was coincident with a less than natural feeling of elbow flex for a long period of weeks or months. Google bursal sac injury to read about trauma (impact...whatever) which causes it and treatments to cure it. For me I feel that resting my arm on a counter for hours at a time while sitting (rubbing the elbow joint on a flat surface) inadvertantly created a thinner aggravated elbow bursa area which ruptured under the circumstances and anatomic positions created by throwing somewhat heavy shovel fulls of snow over my shoulder. ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Thanks, Bob. I got a shoulder MRI which shows nothing that shouldn't be there. But I'm going to get another doctor's opinion on it anyways. It's more annyoing that I still feel it, not a problem, just wondering why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Eisenman Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: just wondering why... A bit of rotator cuff injury perhaps.... North Shore Shoulder....been there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: Thanks, Bob. I got a shoulder MRI which shows nothing that shouldn't be there. But I'm going to get another doctor's opinion on it anyways. It's more annyoing that I still feel it, not a problem, just wondering why... If nothing shows bad, you could still schedule physical therapy. I had a partial tear once from lifting weights that a month of therapy twice a week helped heal it and now I don't feel anything in the shoulder, no twinges, nothing. They put me on the hand crank bike for 8 minutes, used some resistance bands at various angles, stretched and rotated my arm some, all to get more blood into the area and speed up healing. It was a hassle taking off work so often but worth it in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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