Shad0z Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 so i am a ninebot mini pro owner it is a very fun ride almost like the "hoverboard" but pro or v 2.0 it only goes 18 kmh and... yeah it feels fast but then you see bikes whissing by and then you think I NEED NEW STUFF plus you kinda look like a nerd or geek while riding it i really dont care but i need the extra speed so i am considering buying an electric unicycle and i have looked a little around i the gotway tesla looks promising to me i can order it on ebay from shenzen china for about 1000 dollar title on listing is like this: GotWay 2017 new electric unicycle 16 inch Tesla 1020wh 84V high speed long range and note: this is my first time buying or trying a euc would you reccomend it? is there anything i should look for or think about before buying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 $1000 is a darn good price for the 1020wh version. You might want to make sure it isn't the lower end model. KS16S is also an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, Shad0z said: so i am a ninebot mini pro owner it is a very fun ride almost like the "hoverboard" but pro or v 2.0 it only goes 18 kmh and... yeah it feels fast but then you see bikes whissing by and then you think I NEED NEW STUFF plus you kinda look like a nerd or geek while riding it i really dont care but i need the extra speed so i am considering buying an electric unicycle and i have looked a little around i the gotway tesla looks promising to me i can order it on ebay from shenzen china for about 1000 dollar title on listing is like this: GotWay 2017 new electric unicycle 16 inch Tesla 1020wh 84V high speed long range and note: this is my first time buying or trying a euc would you reccomend it? is there anything i should look for or think about before buying? I can hardly believe that this is the 1020wh Version....including Transport etc! So as Hunka said, make damn sure that this is the highest Version or you end up with a 425wh Version (which normally is sold for 1000Bucks) I can not say much to buying from ebay....here in the Forum mostly aliexpress is used when ordering from China! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 26 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: I can hardly believe that this is the 1020wh Version....including Transport etc! So as Hunka said, make damn sure that this is the highest Version or you end up with a 425wh Version (which normally is sold for 1000Bucks) I can not say much to buying from ebay....here in the Forum mostly aliexpress is used when ordering from China! i also just found out the shipping last date for delivery is feburary 2018..... but it is hard to find gotway tesla and i really need the higher power and the pull up handle and the 40 kmh speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, Shad0z said: i also just found out the shipping last date for delivery is feburary 2018..... but it is hard to find gotway tesla and i really need the higher power and the pull up handle and the 40 kmh speed Go to aliexpress and search for Gotway Tesla....easy :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 There's no reason NOT to get a Tesla as a first wheel. Just because it can go scared fast and climb mountains doesn't mean you have to while training. Is the wheel a good size for training: yes is the motor strong enough : YES !! is the battery power good enough: yes is it from a mainstream manufacturer: yes can you set lower training speeds: yes does it have a trolley handle: yes does it have cool flashing lights to dazzle and impress on lookers: yes will you trash it while trying to learn: yes....... ....Or maybe. Pad that sucker up, and use a loose training leash to keep it off the ground as much as possible. You will throw your first wheel down the road, a lot. I know I did. I wish I had ordered some padding and protected it. AND that was WITH a leash. the dark side is beckoning you, feel the force, 1900Watts, to be exact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Smoother said: There's no reason NOT to get a Tesla as a first wheel. Just because it can go scared fast and climb mountains doesn't mean you have to while training. Is the wheel a good size for training: yes is the motor strong enough : YES !! is the battery power good enough: yes is it from a mainstream manufacturer: yes can you set lower training speeds: yes does it have a trolley handle: yes does it have cool flashing lights to dazzle and impress on lookers: yes will you trash it while trying to learn: yes. Or maybe. Pad that sucker up, and use a loose training leash to keep it off the ground as much as possible. You will throw your first wheel down the road, a lot. I know I did. I wish I had ordered some padding and protected it. AND that was WITH a leash. the dark side is beckoning you, feel the force, 1900Watts, to be exact i also have thought that if i buy this i will soruound it in padding until i learn using it and then souround it a little less but how is the lighting at night? is it easily visible for cars? and also do you know some other alternatives that are cheaper and have a pull up handle that are cehaper and have somwhere around the same speed ju to get some alternatives going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Here's the thing about speed; the faster you go the more it hurts when you come off, and you WILL come off. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but one day, something will catch you out. I've been thrown down the road at around 28kmh and it was no fun. It's also very embarrassing. That's why I recently picked the slower of two wheels I was considering as a second wheel. More power,? Yes, bigger wheel? Yes, more features? Yes, bigger battery? Yes, but only slightly faster than my current wheel at top speed. I just wanted to cruise at 30kph comfortably with more safety. Note, I didn't say "complete" safety. The Tesla speed means more safety headroom at lower speeds, but even the mighty Tesla will throw you down the road if you drive over a brick you didn't see. You still have to keep your brain engaged; it's where safety starts. oh yeah. Went from KS14c (340Wh) to KS16s (840Wh) for your reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 sorry i ask you a lot how many tesla model are there and wich would you reccomend i just feel that 45 kmh is overkill and i maybe could do with 35 or so but the real important thing is i need 30-40 km+ range what would you reccomend i am kind of clue less about how a euc is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, Shad0z said: sorry i ask you a lot how many tesla model are there and wich would you reccomend i just feel that 45 kmh is overkill and i maybe could do with 35 or so but the real important thing is i need 30-40 km+ range what would you reccomend i am kind of clue less about how a euc is Part of your project is to do your research. The answers to your questions are all out there for the searching. And YouTube (can you get YouTube?) videos show everything, from learning, falling, crashing, tricks, cruising, mountain climbing, and riding fast. It's fantastic fun, and I know I speak for everyone here, when I say that. @Marty Backe can probably tell you his typical average speed across ALL his wheels. I'm not sure anyone cruises much faster than 35kph on a regular basis ( I could be wrong about that). Remember, the faster you ride the harder you crash, 40kph on you face, and hands, or shoulder, and elbows is no fun, and could be fatal. You also have to consider who or what your 19kg wheel will hit when hurtling out of control at high speed. It could kill someone. That makes you a killer (man slaughter, not murder) there's more to consider than just how much fun you'll have or how quickly you can get to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Smoother said: Part of your project is to do your research. The answers to your questions are all out there for the searching. And YouTube (can you get YouTube?) videos show everything, from learning, falling, crashing, tricks, cruising, mountain climbing, and riding fast. It's fantastic fun, and I know I speak for everyone here, when I say that. @Marty Backe can probably tell you his typical average speed across ALL his wheels. I'm not sure anyone cruises much faster than 35kph on a regular basis ( I could be wrong about that). Remember, the faster you ride the harder you crash, 40kph on you face, and hands, or shoulder, and elbows is no fun, and could be fatal. You also have to consider who or what your 19kg wheel will hit when hurtling out of control at high speed. It could kill someone. That makes you a killer (man slaughter, not murder) there's more to consider than just how much fun you'll have or how quickly you can get to school. i really am considirng it this is like in the middle of a bike and a gas scooter (i dont know what theire called its like a smaller motor bike) and yes i know youtube who doesnt but i am not thinking about buying this only for "fun" but for a practical ride than is also fun and unique but i will be buying it as a serious transport vehicle that i will use for years on but the question: does it run away when you fall off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 46 minutes ago, Shad0z said: and yes i know youtube who doesnt There's this thing called "censorship ". Certain governments do not want their people to know everything that is going on in the rest of the world, so they censor (restrict) various forms of media ( news, video, radio, tv, etc). I do believe some people on this forum are not able to view YouTube. I didn't expect you to know that as your 14,. Bit you do now.. scooter, moped (motorised pedal bike), we know what you mean. Just don't get fat from lack of exercise, there's enough fat kids already, storing up health problems for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 27 minutes ago, Smoother said: There's this thing called "censorship ". Certain governments do not want their people to know everything that is going on in the rest of the world, so they censor (restrict) various forms of media ( news, video, radio, tv, etc). I do believe some people on this forum are not able to view YouTube. I didn't expect you to know that as your 14,. Bit you do now.. scooter, moped (motorised pedal bike), we know what you mean. Just don't get fat from lack of exercise, there's enough fat kids already, storing up health problems for the future. i still exercise no worries but i come outside about an extra hour because i ride this instead of sitting near the computer and no russia is not north korea its not like everything is censored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Shad0z said: but the question: does it run away when you fall off? Sometimes. Sometimes they go a long way (watch more vids). Imaging standing around minding your own business and suddenly a 19kg hard object hits you in the back of the legs, at speed. Or imaging it hurtling towards a small child, or out into the street, infront of a motorcycle, or bus full of people. All sorts of injury and damage can be caused to others and their property. That's why I alway ride with a leash. It gives me some chance of controlling the wheel if I come off. Often, the natural tug on the leash, as I'm falling, causes it to topple over and crash within 2 feet of my departure. You're 14 you haven't had dealings in the adult world where blame, responsibility and punishment is demanded or required by law enforcement or the courts. How would your dad feel if your wheel rolled under a Ferrari? He wouldn't like those bills. Like I said before, there are other things to consider other than your own needs or enjoyment. btw, your English is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Shad0z said: sorry i ask you a lot how many tesla model are there and wich would you reccomend i just feel that 45 kmh is overkill and i maybe could do with 35 or so but the real important thing is i need 30-40 km+ range what would you reccomend i am kind of clue less about how a euc is There are 7 variants, 3 with 67.2V (I would not buy any of these) and 4 with 84V. Details about the models see here. The 84V 1020Wh is the biggest model, and many dealers only sell this one. For 30-40km range in maybe cold weather, you should get a big battery, so at least 850Wh, or better 1020Wh. Range also depends on your weight - what's your weight (with clothes and shoes and backpack and everything)? 1 hour ago, Shad0z said: i really am considirng it this is like in the middle of a bike and a gas scooter (i dont know what theire called its like a smaller motor bike) but i am not thinking about buying this only for "fun" but for a practical ride than is also fun and unique but i will be buying it as a serious transport vehicle that i will use for years on That's exactly what electric unicycle are - like a bike, but faster and no effort, but not quite like a scooter. And so much fun to ride! Very useful for actual transportation and commuting. 1 hour ago, Shad0z said: but the question: does it run away when you fall off? It will just fall over and tumble/roll to a stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedig Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: 5 hours ago, Shad0z said: but the question: does it run away when you fall off? It will just fall over and tumble/roll to a stop. Well... that depends on how you jump off and the state of the wheel at the point of evacuation. The wheel is quite capable of rolling on at speed for some distance if the dismount doesn't disturb it's cg sufficiently. Generally it will be unbalanced enough to fall over but it can, and will, run away from you in the right circumstances. it is not self centering/stopping like a segway or minipro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 This discussion again Let's just say, the standard behavior you should expect is that it falls over or tumbles to a stop (instead of you having to chase it going into the distance towards the horizon, into freedom from the oppressive rider). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 49 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: This discussion again 49 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Let's just say, the standard behavior you should expect is that it falls over or tumbles to a stop +1! but this „standard behaviour“ can still leave the wheel jumping, tumbling for quite many meters with quite some „impact power“ especially at higher speeds! 49 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: (instead of you having to chase it going into the distance towards the horizon, into freedom from the oppressive rider). I‘have just seen a wheel once driving nicely towards the danube channel ready to go for a swim (on a straight road) - was luckily stopped by two small trees. another topic is going downhill - there „runaways“ can be quite endless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedig Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 sorry, didn't realize this was a point of contention... (can a dismounted wheel keep going riderless) /me puts this on "the" list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanghamP Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, stevedig said: sorry, didn't realize this was a point of contention... (can a dismounted wheel keep going riderless) /me puts this on "the" list. I experimented with this in a fenced-in children's playground as no.one.else. seems to ever do experiments with their wheels. Shameful. If you bail or jump off your wheel, and you did it evenly, then, yes, your wheel will go on forever, in a straight line, until it hits something. It functions like a running torpedo, god knows when it stops. Worringly, my VF5+ accelerated instead of slowing down. If you bail slightly off center, then the wheel circles around, possibly to hit you. If you drag your foot then the wheel wobbles enough to drag something on the ground, and instantly stops. This is the best case. A leash (which I do not use) would probably always cause the wheel to wobble like this. I need to redo this experiment while recording it and even then I wonder if this will make even the slightest impression on the Luddites. I mean, I'll probably jerk off to naked wheel porn if that convinces anyone to do a 180 on their thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, stevedig said: sorry, didn't realize this was a point of contention... (can a dismounted wheel keep going riderless) /me puts this on "the" list. Also Gotways have some delay turning the motor off once it falls, which can lead to not so nice jumps/wheel „biting“ ones ankles? (Never really rode a gotway so this is only by hearsay). but as @Jason McNeil stated this is about to be solved in the very near future: (this would deserve imho an own topic!) @Shad0z so since at your place riding in wintertime is not real fun maybe some waiting before ordering a gotway would be a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, LanghamP said: naked wheel porn You had me at "naked wheel porn." Didn't read any of the rest it, whatever it was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 10 hours ago, Shad0z said: i really am considirng it this is like in the middle of a bike and a gas scooter (i dont know what theire called its like a smaller motor bike) and yes i know youtube who doesnt but i am not thinking about buying this only for "fun" but for a practical ride than is also fun and unique but i will be buying it as a serious transport vehicle that i will use for years on but the question: does it run away when you fall off? Hi ! ( i'm sorry for spelling mistakes because I only write through google translate ) I've been driving almost every day for EUC four years . I love long distances and a quick and sometimes aggressive ride . However, there have been only three kraches. One of them is 35-36kph ! But the most serious injuries were the first and the slowest Airwheel ( max 14 kph . Face slipping rough asphalt and that's why I would never recommend a low-power wheel to anyone ) . I have not happened even in the worst conditions, not wheel has itself driven away . You need to constantly take into account your skills and the environment when driving the wheel !!! When i motorcycle jumps incorrectly, the motorcycle will continue to move independently . The same situation with the car with cabriolet you can fall out and the car becomes an unmanageable bang ! I want to say that not turning off for on the slope is a safety element for fast drive !!! If you go for a high speed with a curve, then this so-called safe wheel turns itself off at full speed. Because he thinks that he is already over 45 degrees in the slope and therefore probably already fell !! This problem was in trouble for EUC-extreme and concluded that less than 75 degrees should not be turned off ! Power on wheel, careless tilting is the same as dropping a powerful motorcycle when the gear is in and the engine is running !! I would not like to avoid removing important features from the wheels in order to use them carelessly and imprudently ! We must not go to traffic before driving is clear in every situation ! It should also include skills in pointing out the wheel reflexive for unexpected situation . And do not let believe that 40kph and 25kg wheel for belt or cord stick we can hold on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 19 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: There are 7 variants, 3 with 67.2V (I would not buy any of these) and 4 with 84V. Details about the models see here. The 84V 1020Wh is the biggest model, and many dealers only sell this one. For 30-40km range in maybe cold weather, you should get a big battery, so at least 850Wh, or better 1020Wh. Range also depends on your weight - what's your weight (with clothes and shoes and backpack and everything)? That's exactly what electric unicycle are - like a bike, but faster and no effort, but not quite like a scooter. And so much fun to ride! Very useful for actual transportation and commuting. It will just fall over and tumble/roll to a stop. ok thanks i weigh 80 kg with everything but what is the differences 425wh. 850wh 1020wh is it the battery? Do they all have the same motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 20 hours ago, Smoother said: Sometimes. Sometimes they go a long way (watch more vids). Imaging standing around minding your own business and suddenly a 19kg hard object hits you in the back of the legs, at speed. Or imaging it hurtling towards a small child, or out into the street, infront of a motorcycle, or bus full of people. All sorts of injury and damage can be caused to others and their property. That's why I alway ride with a leash. It gives me some chance of controlling the wheel if I come off. Often, the natural tug on the leash, as I'm falling, causes it to topple over and crash within 2 feet of my departure. You're 14 you haven't had dealings in the adult world where blame, responsibility and punishment is demanded or required by law enforcement or the courts. How would your dad feel if your wheel rolled under a Ferrari? He wouldn't like those bills. Like I said before, there are other things to consider other than your own needs or enjoyment. btw, your English is very good. thanks i cheat a little with google transelate but i type most part but i have concidered a lot what can happen many people in my age dont care and sometimes they dont think of the other side of things (most) i usually think something through about 10 times before doing it and i am still trying find out how to get money and if it still is a good idea i was a little impulsive i wanted one NOW but it tones down quickly and i start thinking about downsides or why not just buy a bike? but krasnodar (where i live) is not known for bike paths but it has great areas with fountains and a lot of places where a euc would be spot on perfect for this city i actually first saw My current ninebot mini a place where some guys rented them 10 minute for money i tried and i was hooked and i will be even more hooked when i get a euc but! Safety first! And then the second part *anxiety intesifies* (Money) with the amount of money i get each month can get the euc in 2 years and every kind if job you can find is not a lot but not a lot will become a lot someday thank you for you replys very happy someone wants to help me taking the steps in the dark side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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