U can't take an electric unicycle on a germanwings-plane

[vemalilu]

I wanted to take a ninebot one e+ with me on the flight from Vienna to Hannover, but Germanwings refuses to take it because of the battery. They say they never take electric bikes with them - no matter what the battery is like. If it has a battery they dont transport it.

[Gimlet]

So do they refuse laptops as well?

[mrgreen]

There is not even any information/warning about that on Germanwings website

The current regulation is different from airline to airline, e.g. Turkish officially does not allow transport of any lithium battery according to their website

Let's hope that with rising popularity of EUCs all airlines and the IATA will find common ground for standardized regulations.

[Paul Panait]

I'm super afraid for the same reason. What did you do with the wheel? Left it in the airport?

[robca]

Germanwing is right. All carriers limit the biggest battery they accept to 160 Wh. Anything bigger can't travel on a passenger plane (international rules)

As far as I know, no EUC has a battery smaller than 174 Wh, hence no-go

The international rules for LiPo batteries are:

as many <100 Wh batteries as you want, as long as they are separate, and not connected to a device

no more than 2 160 Wh batteries

Laptops, phones, cameras and all other electronic devices have batteries smaller than 100 Wh, so never a problem. People flying drones usually are ok, as long as they fly small hobby drones (rarely batteries are bigger than 60-80 Wh). Professional drones sometimes require batteries to be shipped ahead of time

Airlines can, on their own, apply more restrictive rule, but not more permissive

http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/dgr/Pages/lithium-batteries.aspx

http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/dgr/Pages/dgr-guidance.aspx

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/faa_airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf 

Frankly, I'm surpised by the EUC manufacturer lack of design for this scenario. An EUC is a great way to explore a new city, but until there's an easy way to travel with one, it's a moot point

[MetricUSA]

OK ENOUGH!!! IM BOYCOTTING AIRLINES! I AM GOING BY ELECTRIC UNICYCLE EVERYWHERE!  ? ??

[Jag_Rip]

yes dadgumit!

[mrgreen]

As far as I know, no EUC has a battery smaller than 174 Wh, hence no-go

Solowheel classic has 160wh battery

[robca]

Solowheel classic has 160wh battery

Yes, someone pointed out to me that actually there are models with smaller batteries, great to know, and thanks for the additional info

[mrgreen]

Yes, someone pointed out to me that actually there are models with smaller batteries, great to know, and thanks for the additional info

Which other models do you nkow of? We should create a list

[dmethvin]

There are a ton of 14-inch models with 132Wh batteries, too many to name. The problem is that they only go 8km on a charge and most people want more than that. They're nice and light though, usually less than 10kg.

[Sigil]

It looks like there is a need to design a cycle that uses a modular battery which breaks down into a number of under 160wh sticks that clip together into a single much larger battery pack.  Considering most of these batteries are made of individual self contained cells I imagine it would be easy to do--if not a little bulky.  Being able to fly with these things would increase their appeal tremendously...

[Jason McNeil]

Ask King Song, they offer this, perhaps not for general distribution just yet, it's called the KS14-B 155Wh. 

It looks like there is a need to design a cycle that uses modular battery that breaks down into a number of under 160 wh sticks that clip together into a single much larger battery pack. .

[Sigil]

Ask King Song, they offer this, perhaps not for general distribution just yet, it's called the KS14-B 155Wh. 

Right, but if I understand correctly--these are just swappable batteries of lower capacity. Doesn't that lead to undesirable affects related to voltage sag? Effects that you wouldn't see if you were somehow able to have the equivalent of 2 or 3 of those packs clipped together in parallel?  I am not an electrician haha.  I'm thinking like a larger combining box with two or three slots for smaller boxes that pop out to break up the total capacity and skirt regulations...

[dmethvin]

Doesn't that lead to undesirable affects related to voltage sag? Effects that you wouldn't see if you were somehow able to have the equivalent of 2 or 3 of those packs in parallel? 

Probably true, but it can be convenient to only carry as much battery as you need for whatever trip you are making. If your normal commute is only 10km or less you can get by with one battery and the EUC is lighter when you have to carry it out of the subway or up stairs. Then when you need to go for longer distances you can keep the spare batteries in a backpack.

[Mono]

Right, but if I understand correctly--these are just swappable batteries of lower capacity. Doesn't that lead to undesirable affects related to voltage sag? Effects that you wouldn't see if you were somehow able to have the equivalent of 2 or 3 of those packs clipped together in parallel?  I am not an electrician haha.  I'm thinking like a larger combining box with two or three slots for smaller boxes that pop out to break up the total capacity and skirt regulations...

or something like this 

http://www.kingswing.net/product/60032421653-800337558/67_2V_battery_pack_for_electric_scooter_single_electric_wheel.html

could be an interim solution for any standard wheel with small battery

[tjcooper]

Newbie here,

but I have many years of experience with LiPo batteries for rc airplanes and drones.  I make all my own packs.  Just take your 176 Watt-hour pack and cut the battery in half and join with male/female XT-60 connectors.  I do it all the time to get around the airlines.  But as mentioned before, remove the battery packs from the device before shipping.  I carry one battery "half" on the plane with me, the other "half" goes in the luggage.  No problems yet.

 

Remember....use the 18650 "silver sausages" batteries.....they are far more resilient to over charge and the notorious "vent and flame" of the food packaging LiPo types for airplanes.  But you can get either type through the airlines as long as the watt-hours goes below their limit.  I just ordered a MoHoo X3 with removeable battery pack for exactly that reason.  I can carry spares in my backpack if I want to go on a long trip and change out in under 2 minutes.  I may put a connector and switchout on the hub so I can switchout batteries without opening anything.....just dangling wire and Velco.

   tjcooper -- Amazon

[lizardmech]

The airline capacity rules make no sense, somehow 32 of the cheapest 1500mh cells you can buy are safer than 16 3000mh LG or panasonic cells?

[Bush]

5 minutes ago, lizardmech said:

The airline capacity rules make no sense, somehow 32 of the cheapest 1500mh cells you can buy are safer than 16 3000mh LG or panasonic cells?

Not yet,

According to your queris, I sure that I can give your Answer...Cuz we are the EU productor used Sumsang battery

1. Battery pack, UL for the battery, also the battery pack.

    132mah risk is less than 364mah, if take the same situation, Abviously.

    If there is an explosion, 132mah can be control easier than 364, right?

    Second, LG3000mah is  just for the battery, but not the Battery pack. We also making the battery pack.

panasonic cells >Sumsang> LG， As our experience.

2.But different battery pack technique will determine the risk of the battery pack.

That's why the Air-line company do not care about your battery cell, but the whole capacity.

 First, they do not have the time, 

Second, they wanna to control the risk.

as the  UL2272 for self balance scooter at Feb.18TH, USA just set up for the self balance scooter,

I sure that the problem will be solve recently.

 

Rgds.

Bush