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Actually I have learned EUC riding on a KS16B. From learning point of view there is not much difference to a KS16S, except that the S has a little bit more weight (I have the 640Wh variant of the B).

From my point of view absolutely nothing speaks against learning on a KS16S, if one accepts that it is heavy and it is necessary to develop calf musculature, and a positive influence on the motoric development will be shown significantly in coordination, balancing and fine motor skills after 10 to 14 days training.  This is nothing which comes from one day to the next.

But after 2 weeks or so things will go fast, because brain and musculature have adapted. 

I recommend to ride 4 days in a row for at least 45 minutes per day, but not longer than 90 minutes, better 2 times 45 minutes (e.g. forenoon and afternoon), and then do a one or two day break, and then again ride for 4 days in a row, and so on. As soon as the fun factor is there, one should ride and train as much as he/she wants.

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1 hour ago, Rehab1 said:

Thanks for the response. To me it was not the weight as my ACM 1600 is much heavier.  It was the increased sensitivity. Maybe I should just start my wife out on the Learners Mode and forgot about the way it feels and responds to me.

Thanks. Yes I plan to keep riding it. I'm just trying to figure out if the KS16S is the right wheel for her to begin learning on. I only have one chance to convince her that this is a fun hobby. Maybe I should just let her try the other wheels as well and she can make her own determination. 

If you, with your vast experience and knowledge, can't convince your wife that this is fun, we're all lost ;)

I learned on the ACM. I actually think it's easier to learn on a less nimble wheel like the ACM. I think I would have even had an easier time with the MSuper. Hindsight.

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2 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

If you, with your vast experience and knowledge, can't convince your wife that this is fun, we're all lost ;)

I learned on the ACM. I actually think it's easier to learn on a less nimble wheel like the ACM. I think I would have even had an easier time with the MSuper. Hindsight.

Unfortunately there are to many negative people in my family saying to my wife:  "Your actually going to try that?"  or "I would kill myself!" 

She is not very enthusiastic about learning to ride anymore after her shoulder injury. It would be great if she asked " Can you teach me how to ride some more today?".  But that never happens.:(

My ACM is starting to become my favorite wheel for cruising and trails. It is rock solid and a joy to ride. I believe my wife might actually feel comfortable training on it but my biggest concern is the volatile release of kinetic energy when it is dropped!

Maybe  I should just steal my grandson's NB1 for a few days.

 

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2 hours ago, steve454 said:

That might make it more fun and interesting.  Heaviest to lightest, lightest to heaviest, or random.

Yes It would be interesting. I just hate making more protective covers. I might just go the foam route.

Maybe Mten would be a good wheel for her to train on. Luffy is definately not a good choice with it's munchkin pedals.  Mten is short and squatty with larger pedals and a fat tire. She also would have less distance to fall. ;) Hopefully it arrives soon.

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3 hours ago, Rehab1 said:

Unfortunately there are to many negative people in my family saying to my wife:  "Your actually going to try that?"  or "I would kill myself!" 

She is not very enthusiastic about learning to ride anymore after her shoulder injury. It would be great if she asked " Can you teach me how to ride some more today?".  But that never happens.:(

My ACM is starting to become my favorite wheel for cruising and trails. It is rock solid and a joy to ride. I believe my wife might actually feel comfortable training on it but my biggest concern is the volatile release of kinetic energy when it is dropped!

Maybe  I should just steal my grandson's NB1 for a few days.

 

I hear you. Just yesterday I dropped my MSuper and proceeded to stand and watch the wheel spin fully up while it was sitting on it's side. After seeing @eddiemoy's recent video I now realize how bad Gotway is relative to other wheels like KingSong. Gotway must be using some crappy sensors and/or firmware for them not to be able to detect rapidly enough that the wheel is not upright.

Add this to my long list of improvement wishes that I have for Gotway, which will probably never be realized :(

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2 hours ago, Rehab1 said:

Unfortunately there are to many negative people in my family saying to my wife:  "Your actually going to try that?"  or "I would kill myself!" 

She is not very enthusiastic about learning to ride anymore after her shoulder injury. It would be great if she asked " Can you teach me how to ride some more today?".  But that never happens.:(

My ACM is starting to become my favorite wheel for cruising and trails. It is rock solid and a joy to ride. I believe my wife might actually feel comfortable training on it but my biggest concern is the volatile release of kinetic energy when it is dropped!

Maybe  I should just steal my grandson's NB1 for a few days.

 

I completely agree that the ACM is solid and is my choice over my V8.  However for learning, I think the V8 is more suitable.  The extra 10 pounds is really noticable.  The lighter weight of the V8 makes it easier to control as well the slightly taller height where you can use your knees to stabilize.

That's what I'm training my wife on.  Same here, there's no way she will ever ask me to teach her.  I'm giving her the guilt trip that we need to learn this before we get older and can get around better.  So far, I've managed to get three sessions where I hold her hand and ride along side.  That is working out quite well.

Hopefully after a month or so she'll be on her own.

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2 hours ago, Rehab1 said:

ning to ride anymore after her shoulder injury. It would be great if she asked " Can you teach me how to ride some more today?".  But

Get her that smashing outfit like Yoshi was wearing if she is worried about her shoulder. It has shoulder pads, back pads elbow, forearm pads and is form fitted so it will look great too. Here is a pic 

What woman wouldnt wear an outfit at least once? Just my 2cents

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2 hours ago, Rehab1 said:

Maybe  I should just steal my grandson's NB1 for a few days.

 

You say that like you're joking.  I learned on a Ninebot One E+, and it was perfect for that purpose.  I rarely ride it anymore since I got the V8, but it was the perfect training wheel.  

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1 minute ago, CaptainKBLS said:

I'm giving her the guilt trip that we need to learn this before we get older and can get around better.  So far, I've managed to get three sessions where I hold her hand and ride along side.  That is working out quite well.

Unfortunately my wife knows me to well and has had tons of psych classes. Now if I could convince my grandson to apply some pressure she might cave. ;)

Best wishes on your continued training. 

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26 minutes ago, Stan Onymous said:

Get her that smashing outfit like Yoshi was wearing if she is worried about her shoulder. It has shoulder pads, back pads elbow, forearm pads and is form fitted so it will look great too. Here is a pic 

What woman wouldnt wear an outfit at least once? Just my 2cents

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Actually @YoshiSkySun stole my jacket! :) 

She might be agreeable to the lighter colored jacket with some pink bling.:wub:

 

13 minutes ago, radial said:

You say that like you're joking.  I learned on a Ninebot One E+, and it was perfect for that purpose.  I rarely ride it anymore since I got the V8, but it was the perfect training wheel.  

No joke! I learned on the NB1E+ before passing it onto my grandson. Oh god she would kill me if she knew we were talking about her.

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1 hour ago, Marty Backe said:

Add this to my long list of improvement wishes that I have for Gotway, which will probably never be realized :(

We hate them but keep on buying! Any word on your Mten?

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Actually, I got the orange one because I ride amonst obliviots in traffic and need to be seen. However I was drawn to it because it is reassuring to me that I am more prepared knowing the experience that a fall could happen through no fault of your own. I had a bad fall while totally unprotected and the tendons in my left hand are just coming back to full strength without pain. I was lucky my elbows didnt break as well as my right elbow swelled up nicely.

Then I check the news and see three hapless pedestrians, walkers, people that use their feet instead of a wheel, get rolled over like pizza dough by some prius on the news and think - hmmm there's lots of risk out there. So dont ride unprotected and its that foot mobile thingy people do without a wheel is pretty dangerous around town too. ?

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35 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

No. I'm sure it's somewhere in the Pacific ocean, slowly winding it's way here.

I realize it is a small sample size but my Kingsong 16s came directly from China actually and it took 12 days. They seemed to think that was faster than average too.

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17 minutes ago, electricpen said:

I realize it is a small sample size but my Kingsong 16s came directly from China actually and it took 12 days. They seemed to think that was faster than average too.

I guess we can't be too picky for free shipping

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9 hours ago, Rehab1 said:

Maybe I should just start my wife out on the Learners Mode and forgot about the way it feels and responds to me.

Thanks. Yes I plan to keep riding it. I'm just trying to figure out if the KS16S is the right wheel for her to begin learning on. I only have one chance to convince her that this is a fun hobby. Maybe I should just let her try the other wheels as well and she can make her own determination. 

I can only speak for myself, but I do not recommend learners mode, because I hated it from beginning, the wheel acted like a hippo in deep mud.

If you believe that players mode is too reactive for a beginner, then try the medium mode (I believe it has a different name now, but at my KS16B it is called riding mode).

And I believe your idea to let her try all wheels and make her own decision is a great one, not only from a technical, but also from a psychological point of view. :):thumbup:

Unfortunately my wife refuses strictly to ride an EUC, although she is an excellent skier.

 

5 hours ago, Rehab1 said:

Unfortunately there are to many negative people in my family saying to my wife:  "Your actually going to try that?"  or "I would kill myself!"

For my wife things like that (negative mood from relatives or friends) would just push her to do it anyway. I believe some of this sense of contradictoriness is in all wives of the world, therefore you possibly can make use of that e.g. saying: "Wouldn't it be great if you pass aunt Emma on a EUC, although she said you shouldn't do it because SHE thinks it's sooo dangerous ?" :)

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4 hours ago, HermanTheGerman said:

I can only speak for myself, but I do not recommend learners mode, because I hated it from beginning, the wheel acted like a hippo in deep mud.

Easy to visualize that image!   :laughbounce2:

4 hours ago, HermanTheGerman said:

And I believe your idea to let her try all wheels and make her own decision is a great one, not only from a technical, but also from a psychological point of view. :):thumbup:

I agree! She likes making up her own mind without pressure.

4 hours ago, HermanTheGerman said:

Unfortunately my wife refuses strictly to ride an EUC, although she is an excellent skier.

 That is interesting.

4 hours ago, HermanTheGerman said:

For my wife things like that (negative mood from relatives or friends) would just push her to do it anyway.

I noticed you left out husband. ;)

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8 hours ago, YoshiSkySun said:

I understand where your wife is coming from...the emotional scars hurts more than the physical ones. :crying:

I'm going to shame her and say "Look at Yoshi!  He got hurt, was in a wheelchair and he's up and riding again. Toughen up lady!" ;)

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7 hours ago, Stan Onymous said:

Actually, I got the orange one because I ride amonst obliviots in traffic and need to be seen

I was not aware the jacket came in orange! Yes you will definately stand out in the crowd! Actually orange is smart because it CONCERTRATES!:)

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10 hours ago, Stan Onymous said:

Get her that smashing outfit like Yoshi was wearing if she is worried about her shoulder. It has shoulder pads, back pads elbow, forearm pads and is form fitted so it will look great too. Here is a pic 

What woman wouldnt wear an outfit at least once? Just my 2cents

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She could be the female Power Ranger.  LOL

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