EcoDrift Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 First video review =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 So does this review throw the release timetable back into question (ie: 18L released next week)? Maybe it's just a guy who got to try one out at the factory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasenutty Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Looks like he just went to that Hong Kong scooter show where they were showing it off and made a video. I don't think it was his own personal 18L that he owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I think that's where @Jason McNeil is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 2 hours ago, mezzanine said: So does this review throw the release timetable back into question (ie: 18L released next week)? Maybe it's just a guy who got to try one out at the factory? I thought the rumor was just about announcing the 18L, not about being released or sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Interesting bit of info about the 18L that I'm not sure has been mentioned: the prototype uses a 1500w engine, but the production model will use a 2000w engine. The source is the Russian guy in the video linked to earlier. He also says he believes everyone will want this wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemoy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 hours ago, mezzanine said: Interesting bit of info about the 18L that I'm not sure has been mentioned: the prototype uses a 1500w engine, but the production model will use a 2000w engine. The source is the Russian guy in the video linked to earlier. He also says he believes everyone will want this wheel. I wonder if they will upgrade the 18S with the 2000w motor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kael Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 It's looking to be a beast. This one is going on my shortlist for sure. Can't wait to find out some more info on how it rides. More generic question here: is the reason we simply don't see many American/European manufacturers of EUCs down to regulations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Kael said: More generic question here: is the reason we simply don't see many American/European manufacturers of EUCs down to regulations? For the States, you can thank the legal team for Shane Chen / Inventist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, eddiemoy said: I wonder if they will upgrade the 18S with the 2000w motor... I'm still a little unclear on where the Russian guy got the idea that the motor size was originally going to be 1500w because the spec sheet says 1800w. As much as the idea of an upgraded 84v 2000w 18S intrigues me, I'm doubtful if we'll see any changes to that model for some time yet. I want to know how the 18L will compare to the 18S in price. I'm guessing they will be priced similarly and I'm not sure which I'd choose if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Yang Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 https://www.facebook.com/groups/kingsong/permalink/1455821961160506/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricpen Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 29 minutes ago, Meng Yang said: https://www.facebook.com/groups/kingsong/permalink/1455821961160506/ If he is correct and they make an 84v 1600wh version that would be amazing and probably my next wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Yang Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, electricpen said: If he is correct and they make an 84v 1600wh version that would be amazing and probably my next wheel. If 18L and Tesla were to be available at the same time, I would have a hard time deciding. However, Tesla being the option for a purchase this month, I only have 1 choice. Since March, I've been yearning for a new wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xebeche Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 39 minutes ago, Meng Yang said: https://www.facebook.com/groups/kingsong/permalink/1455821961160506/ Judging by that video it sounds like there is no usual high pitch noise on 18L I hope that they will provide some decent mudguard with the wheel so that we don't have to resort to usual custom made horrors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 GREAT NEWS: the 18L will also be available with a 1600wh battery!!! Info from Thomas Hoon, who just posted a video and fotos of him driving the 18L at the Kingsong factory! see Kingsong Facebook group... edit: ok @Meng Yang was first...but I was the one who asked Thomas ;-) and good news can not be repeated often enough :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who_the Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 Awesome news. Some great choices on the horizon in the 18-inch class. A ~1600wh, 84v KingSong 18L stacks up pretty competitively against an (unannounced) 100V MSuperV4 or (unannounced) Ninebot Z10 with a similar battery. Exciting to see competition breed exciting innovation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Only 1600. Oh well, better than ~1000 This means there'll be a wider variant, or can they cram all that into the existing shell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I didn't expect that they would release the larger battery capacity so soon. Will King Song have to expand the width of the 18L shell in order to be able to accommodate the bigger battery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I thought I might have an answer to the question of the the wider shell for the bigger battery- someone asks the KS rep whether there will be a 2400wh version and he replies that "max space is 1600." At first I thought that implied that 1600wh was possible in the existing 1000wh shell, but unfortunately it's still possible the 1600wh will still need a wider shell. This is the kind of micro-analysis of casual statements that I'm going to be obsessing over for clues for the next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolition Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 11 hours ago, Meng Yang said: https://www.facebook.com/groups/kingsong/permalink/1455821961160506/ Looks amazing. My next wheel for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, mezzanine said: I thought I might have an answer to the question of the the wider shell for the bigger battery- someone asks the KS rep whether there will be a 2400wh version and he replies that "max space is 1600." At first I thought that implied that 1600wh was possible in the existing 1000wh shell, but unfortunately it's still possible the 1600wh will still need a wider shell. This is the kind of micro-analysis of casual statements that I'm going to be obsessing over for clues for the next month. Just look at the difference between 14d and 14s....thats -i guess- how they will also do it on the 18L.... You just need a layer of cells more, but that are 1,2 - 1,8 cm more wider shells.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Yang Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Superman in action! https://www.facebook.com/groups/kingsong/permalink/1456759991066703/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Vu Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Other stuff I have questions on: Are the speakers bigger than the speakers in the KS-14/16? Does it have a built-in USB port and easy to access fuse just like the KS-14D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abinder3 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Meng Yang said: Superman in action! https://www.facebook.com/groups/kingsong/permalink/1456759991066703/ And the rider probably only weighs 130lbs max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 There is still uncertainty about how much engine power will be in the production version because the KS rep says the 18L in the video is 1800w. Earlier I posted a rumour from the french forum that the final version will have a 2000w engine, but I'm guessing it will be 1800w. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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