^tom^ Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 since two days I do have my GotWay 14 v2 an drove this two days arround 20km with it, but something is wrong; If I'm driving straight, my upper-body always goes to the right direction. So I'm driving south and my upper-body looks to sout-east. Today I found out how I can even look my upper-body straight: Keep my right foot/leg straight and bend my left foot/leg so more kilo on the right side of the wheel. Thats not fun to drive this way! So I give it another chance; Right foot close to the wheel, left foot 2cm more outside then the right one. This I have to test tomorrow again because it is already dark and it is raining too. It was maybe everything more straight, but funny to turn in any direction or do I just have to get used to it? I also turned the wheel by 180 degres..I could not drive....was not able too. Any other ideas what is wrong and how to fix it? I am still a beginner, so wrong can be anything! Thanks PS: I do not have any problem to drive my Rockwheel 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 What I found so far: Simon Tay's review show this within the video: Also he is staying arround 2cm to the left with his left foot (and the power knob is to his right like for me). Is this normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 There is no reason why it would turn by itself if your wheel is straight and you're standing straight and postured evenly. Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding your question. Try a calibration to see if it makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GQS Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I had the same problem in the first ride. It would tract is all weird directions. Turns out the tires are only inflated to 20psi from the factory. I filled it to 45psi and it fixed it. Also carpet with directional grain will push you to one side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Marhold Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Take a video of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I had the same problem in the first ride. It would tract is all weird directions. Turns out the tires are only inflated to 20psi from the factory. I filled it to 45psi and it fixed it..... I did that even befor my first ride and have arround 45psi. It is just fine to ride with this pressure on streets; not to hard, not to soft. Austin: I will try this....have no idea how I get this problem on video...I will figure something out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Try a calibration to see if it makes a difference. I very much doubt that calibration will have any effect as it only tends to affect front to back balance. Although it can also affect the side to side cut out angle this won't be felt when riding. My EYU was 8% off of upright when I first got it but it still rode a straight line with no problems and was fine to learn on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I tried no different things like: Stand more to the left (so the wheel byself is not realy in the middle beetwen my legs and more to the right) Stand more to the right (so the wheel byself is not realy in the middle beetwen my legs and more to the left) Put something under my right shoe so it is more weight (pressure) on the right pedal More or less nothing changed Video: Nothing to see more then on a pic, so here are three pics One how I usually stand on the wheel Two in which direction my upper body usually is looking when I stand relaxed on my GotWay and drive straight The easiest way to fix it is: I bend my left leg and my upper body will come straight. I know it is very strange, but it is so and it is not with the Rockwheel. First I did not realize it until I drove straight streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Tom this is the first time I have ever heard of this problem. Perhaps the entire axle of the wheel is misalligned with your pedals? Can you check for that visually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Can you check for that visually? I will check it right with messure instruments. For this I have to go to a friend of mine, because I do not have enough instruments to do this. I think so too, that something with the pedal is not right. But i turned the wheel 180° (not% haha) so I drove the wheel in the other direction. I did not see any differenc.....that is what confuises me absolut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 That is indeed strange if you turned it 180 and it still goes the same direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 There is one point so far. The weight of the GotWay itself is not centered. If it is upright straight it will fall to the left (power button on the right). It does't explain why it does not change where my upper body is heading too if I turn the wheel 180 arround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I just tested both my Gotway 14 wheels in Hong Kong (I have two more in Shenzhen). They both fall to the left (power button on the right). It falls to the left because the battery pack is on the left. So that shouldn't be the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Thanks arbee; I 100% agree this is not issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Nothing special but I had a doc appointment today and asked him about my legs length. So; He said it is possible my left leg is arround 1cm longer. Well; I will check driving with a higher shoe at my right foot next. Then maybe I see a differenc. To know it exactly I have to go to a specialist. But so I can check it hopfully by myself. Why I was thinking about it and ask my doc was: If I use the Rockwheel I recognise that I have also my upper body to the right BUT only a little little bit. So my Rockwheel is a 12" wheel and the Gotway where my upper body is really going to the right (arround 15 to 20°) is a 14" wheel. With the Rockwheel I can easy play with it beetwen my legs/fed BUT not so with the Gotway, because it is a stepp higher! More if I know more; Thanks so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Is there any way you can get someone else who knows how to ride it to ride it as a test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 No, there is no-----one I even did not ever saw one riding a EU in Switzerland and so many tousands of peoble here too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castShadow Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hello, I've been riding for over a year. I believe I understand what you're saying and I wouldn't worry about it. When I ride I used to end up with my left shoulder forward and so my body is turned to the right. It was comfortable riding this way and was not a problem. I noticed I was always doing this facing to the right. When you get more comfortable later you can try riding with any feet position like your toes pointing outward or toes pointing inward. You can place one foot 8cm forward of the other. You will find that you can ride like this when you get better, so the feet position does not matter that much. When I get tired sometimes I turn my right foot inward so that I can rest my knee agaist the pad while my left foot is shifted back and pointing outward - and then I do slalom while riding sideways like this. You will find as you get better that it doesn't matter much which way you are facing and you don't have to face directly forward. Also if you get to try other wheels you'll find they have different mechanics and you will face in different positions comfortably. I think you said you ride your 12-inch differently. There are reasons for this of course but you don't have to worry about it. If you sit down on a mat you'll find you're not facing directly straight but facing a little to one side - again, not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castShadow Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I also ride often with one leg straight and the other bent at the knee. If I'm riding past people on one side I like to make that leg straight sometimes, maybe it looks better. I can straighten either leg, but it is more natural for one leg maybe my left leg to be straight. I also know about the 180 degrees direction you mentioned. I have ideas about that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hello, I've been riding for over a year. I believe I understand what you're saying and I wouldn't worry about it. ...... You are probably right and I will get to use to it as soon I'm getting better. I tried different shoes at my right foot and it changed like I assumed. But to drive this way is very uncomfortable. So I ordered some insole and give them a try at my right foot. I also realized like you say there is not the same standing postition for all wheels. So I have to get used of it and as more experience I have as more comfortable I get. At the moment we have tons of snow and with all the up and down in my "city" (the 400 population) I can not drive at the moment. I will give more informations as soon I have more experience, get my insole and know more! Great community, thanks folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castShadow Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Speaking of shoes, in the beginning when I try comfortable shoes I ride will less control because any small movement will steer the wheel unintentionally. Later I found I like basketball shoes because they are very flat at the bottom and also the pair I have is roomy inside and my feet may move a little but it does not affect the riding. I immediately ride very stable in them. The flat soles also seem to extend the pedals so that in effect the pedals become a little longer or wider - this seems to be the effect of stiff flat soles. I used to bring different pairs of shoes in case I want to change when I am riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Speaking of shoes, in the beginning when I try comfortable shoes I ride will less control because any small movement will steer the wheel unintentionally. Later I found I like basketball shoes because they are very flat at the bottom and also the pair I have is roomy inside and my feet may move a little but it does not affect the riding. I immediately ride very stable in them. The flat soles also seem to extend the pedals so that in effect the pedals become a little longer or wider - this seems to be the effect of stiff flat soles. I used to bring different pairs of shoes in case I want to change when I am riding. This all is a good point of viewing it and I will try this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Some good news: Today I drove the GW14 and I decide to drive with my "normal"shoes, but in my left shoe I will remove the insole what is originally in the shoe. AND Ohhhhh so nice to drive this way. I can stay upright and can lean to the left , to the right, do slalom and enjoy my ride more as ever with the GW14. With the insole in, I had to steering etc. all with my left foot and so it was very hard to get right turns too. Now left or right turns are the same, because my legs has the same lenght if i stay on the pedals. With Rockwheel I did not have this problem, but it must be the size of it. The 12 " wheel can I flipp during driving so the same weight is at both pedals bu I can not do it with the GW14 (I do not know why exept it is bigger/higher) and can not so easy flip during driving to the left side for centered weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^tom^ Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 Why I was not able to drive the GW14 like the Rockwheel 12". I was at the ortopedist and he confirmed that my left leg is about 5mm longer (it is nothing to worry about).But this effect was the reason why I had to manoeuvre the GW14 all with my left foot and was not really able to do right turns. So I now remove my left original shoe-insole all the time for driving, an now use my right foot for driving too and I can drive the GW14 like I like to drive it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes8s Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Why I was not able to drive the GW14 like the Rockwheel 12". I was at the ortopedist and he confirmed that my left leg is about 5mm longer (it is nothing to worry about).But this effect was the reason why I had to manoeuvre the GW14 all with my left foot and was not really able to do right turns. So I now remove my left original shoe-insole all the time for driving, an now use my right foot for driving too and I can drive the GW14 like I like to drive it! Wow! 5mm can make that much of a difference? Anyway, glad you figured out waht was the cause and found a remedy. I also tend to preference one foot over another when riding. I seem to put more weight on my right foot and ever so slighly lean to the left to ofset that... Maybe my feet are uneven too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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