houseofjob Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Personally, I still prefer long press because it is virtually impossible to accidentally activate it (mostly switching the wheel on) I concur. For as much as I loved my V5F+ experience, a very very minor gripe I had was the immediate power on, coupled by the touch button, led to so many times I accidentally powered it on, especially when cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I would primarily blame the one-touch button for this (instead of mechanical or "slide to unlock" or whatever more deliberate). Long "pressing" it probably would not be too hard either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 On 05/07/2017 at 8:13 PM, Sam Clegg said: I don't buy that changing the button from "long press" to "short press" introduces a new failure point. Weather or not a power button can fail by being rusty/old/wet/loose (I should hope none of these) is independent of whether its is a "long press" or "short press" that triggers the shut down. If you really think that instant shutoff buttons are so terrible to you also think that the in-motion handle switch is dangerous idea? With any half decent design, failure of the power button itself will not turn off the wheel. The power button may give the turn off signal, but the wheel actually only turns off if it isn't spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Mono said: With any half decent design, failure of the power button itself will not turn off the wheel. The power button may give the turn off signal, but the wheel actually only turns off if it isn't spinning. 1 Can you try that and get back to us with the results? Pad up first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey Lewis Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 8 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Can you try that and get back to us with the results? Pad up first. If I get a chance today I will give this a shot. Slow speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 17 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Can you try that and get back to us with the results? Pad up first. sure, have done this before, the InMotion V8 and the Gotway MCMC2s don't react to the on/off button when pressed while driving. I didn't need padding up to find this out, including the case when I drove so slowly that the above didn't apply . BTW, one can do the experiment as well by just pushing the wheel but not riding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 17 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Can you try that and get back to us with the results? Pad up first. You can try that yourself also on the v3 or acm....roll it forwards and push the power button....it will not work as long as the wheel rolls! @Mono is absolutely correct.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 10 hours ago, Trey Lewis said: If I get a chance today I will give this a shot. Slow speeds. I should have added an emoticon. I was joking - don't risk hurting yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Clegg Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 On 7/8/2017 at 9:43 AM, Mono said: With any half decent design, failure of the power button itself will not turn off the wheel. The power button may give the turn off signal, but the wheel actually only turns off if it isn't spinning. But when I press the button while the the wheel is spinning I really do want to it to stop! Many many times I've lifted the wheel to early and it starts spinning out of control. I want to turn it off in this case.. and I want to turn it off fast. Placing it down the floor can sometimes work but it can result in the wheel kicking and bucking and skidding as it comes back into contact with the ground.. so normally I just end up waiting for the wheel to accelerate to stop speed and shut itself down. This is not a good user experience and its not necessary. I want to power button to do it job and shuts the wheel down. I've never ever accidentally pressed the power button. I just don't buy that argument. The original solowheel has a power button that just worked and there not a problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Clegg Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Mono said: sure, have done this before, the InMotion V8 and the Gotway MCMC2s don't react to the on/off button when pressed while driving. I didn't need padding up to find this out, including the case when I drove so slowly that the above didn't apply . BTW, one can do the experiment as well by just pushing the wheel but not riding it. What about the V8's handle shutoff? If you grab that while riding presumably it will shut down the wheel right? Otherwise it wouldn't me much good to carrying it up stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilmann Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sam Clegg said: What about the V8's handle shutoff? If you grab that while riding presumably it will shut down the wheel right? Otherwise it wouldn't me much good to carrying it up stairs. That's a pretty clever implementation: the switch works as long as the wheel is at or below walking speed (I guess: <5km/h). It also gives a signal sound when it activates. Above 5km/h the switch has no function. Result: you can conveniently pick up the V8 without coming to a complete stand still, but there is no risk of activating it at riding speed. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Clegg Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 29 minutes ago, Tilmann said: That's a pretty clever implementation: the switch works as long as the wheel is at or below walking speed (I guess: <5km/h). It also gives a signal sound when it activates. Above 5km/h the switch has no function. Result: you can conveniently pick up the V8 without coming to a complete stand still, but there is no risk of activating it at riding speed. Well done! I see. Good idea. So it seems like an instant shutdown feature is acceptable at this slow speed? If so, perhaps all power buttons work this way, so I don't need to hold up pedestrian traffic on my commute while I long press my power button. Of you are about on or off an escaltor during rush hour a 2 second pause can be really annoying the rider and others around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Clegg Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 24 minutes ago, Sam Clegg said: I see. Good idea. So it seems like an instant shutdown feature is acceptable at this slow speed? If so, perhaps all power buttons work this way, so I don't need to hold up pedestrian traffic on my commute while I long press my power button. Of you are about on or off an escaltor during rush hour a 2 second pause can be really annoying the rider and others around them. Yes, thinking about it might, this solution will probably work for everyone: - power button is instant off, but only at low speed. - power button does nothing at all at high speeds (just like most models today) No need to long press or wait at all in this scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 It looks like IPS i5, i5+ lacks water proofing. Has no at all. Stator looks attached to shell, so we have no parts which would cover inner space of the motor. It's exposed to water and you'll have big risk of ending up with short circuit after getting into rain. Fix me if I wrong, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilmann Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Thank you @WaveCut, great info! Now I'm curious: what is IPS i5+ ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tilmann said: Thank you @WaveCut, great info! Now I'm curious: what is IPS i5+ ??? Just the one with bigger battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 On the other hand we saw a couple of water proofing tests and wheels did well (f.e.) Maybe electric parts should be covered in varnish, but i don't know. the wheel in picture above be is not mine and it failed right after getting into road hole filled with water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilmann Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, WaveCut said: Just the one with bigger battery Ahhh, ok, thanks! Happy me: I got the larger batt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Amazing construction, so few parts. Really shows how conceptually simple EUCs are. Love how shell = stator, how cool is that. Though it really does look like water/rain resistance is based bit on luck - until that one stray drop gets somewhere and brzzz. At least the battery has a nice hard enclosure, why can't the board have one too. It almost has, just too many openings. I guess its water resistance is not worse than other existing wheels if you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Found out that controller is covered in varnish, so it's the subject to assume that stator is varnished too. But if you're unlucky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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