Jean eRide.ie Community Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Check these out Official IPS website S5 Link Link of the IPS S5 For Sale on Taobao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Finally, looks like very interesting piece of tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Woot, they're also going the <60V route like the Ninebot One Z?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch.Eng.62 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 As I can see, there are two motors and two mainboards! Or I am wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Finally! Dual hub drive... my wishes have been answered! Kinda looks that way, but the specifications aren't very impressive if they are using a dual stator setup? Maybe it's better for torque or something? It just seems to make it more complicated than it needs to be just to go 30 kph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch.Eng.62 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 If it is true, it is real redundancy. Face plant due to failure of one of the system will be avoided. At least will be enough power for safely slow down and unmounting. But only if the two systems are reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tudordewolf Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I was really excited about the s5 and I'm a bit skeptical... It's kinda wide; part of what I love about the i5 is how it's barely wider than its 1.5" tire. And if it's a dual stator design built into the shell in the style of the i5, then both sides are exposed instead of just one like on the i5. Also I don't like the lights. It's yet another step away from the subtle sleekness that made the i5 unique, it looks like an early-generation ninebot. I have a 200wh luffy and a 240wh i5, and I'd say they're in very similar "classes" in terms of range, hill-climb, top speed, and ease-of-carrying. The s5 should therefore compete with the mten3, and offer the same dramatically thin profile; otherwise it's a low-range, low-speed "mid-sized" unicycle in the age of the ACM2 and Kingsong S-series, with presumably exposed stators on both sides, and doesn't even capitalize on the thin profile that compromise enables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch.Eng.62 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I also was excited, but after rethinking I found that it is not so existing. What happens if the system power is 80% is and one of the two circuits fail? Another has to sustain 160% of its rated power. If it is not over engineered two times, it will fail too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCMania Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Ch.Eng.62 said: I also was excited, but after rethinking I found that it is not so existing. What happens if the system power is 80% is and one of the two circuits fail? Another has to sustain 160% of its rated power. If it is not over engineered two times, it will fail too. one system can work over its rated power for a short time. We only need about 1 min to safely react to warning alarm to be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 16 hours ago, Ch.Eng.62 said: If it is true, it is real redundancy. Face plant due to failure of one of the system will be avoided. At least will be enough power for safely slow down and unmounting. But only if the two systems are reliable. Well, you better doubt on it, because usually if the board fails (MOSFET burnt or chip died) then the motor is blocked by the short circuit which will prevent the second motor to balance you out. Even if there is no short circuit block wheel loses 50% of power immediately which theoretically may cause momentary balancing issues which will be enough to fall. Just assuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 17 hours ago, WaveCut said: Well, you better doubt on it, because usually if the board fails (MOSFET burnt or chip died) then the motor is blocked by the short circuit which will prevent the second motor to balance you out. Even if there is no short circuit block wheel loses 50% of power immediately which theoretically may cause momentary balancing issues which will be enough to fall. Just assuming. That is what I was thinking too... Building true redundancy into a unicycle will be very difficult! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 It should prevent falling off because of battery failure, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroman Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 3:18 PM, PriestHood said: My guess is that the shell is week in the Area where the air plug is. That is exactly where crack is on the opposite sides. I said I do not do tricks or jumps. Who knows what happened. Maybe I hit a curb and don't remember. Did love the wheel though. It is Perfect for commute! Hope the update to i5 is coming soon. Never even seen any IPS and have got no idea about material choices, but in general looking at a wheel I would say they use alloys and not particularly clean alloys at that, of course going "dirty" and brittle is cheap as it gets and I highly doubt the Chinese making these wheel hub packages thinking expenses pain go for it, more in the lines of "good enough" and rest is just a long sail towards maximum profits but hey that's just me so? I do however work with metals for a living and there most def a way of doing it better hands down, if anything it should give in not crack but that's all up to materials and manufacturing processes, going very high rate of clean aluminum and magnesium alloys cost money and the idea I think is to manufacture and sell cheap while making a profit in the process. If rim is still straight and crack is not too open you could always have someone tig it for you, they would have to be quite a the tig welder though, a real pro not just any guy claiming he can do it. A new one all together is by far the best choice though and even with such a fine welding method as tig using as little filler as possible it could still create some balancing issues for a few reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroman Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 3:18 PM, PriestHood said: Maybe the new one using a thicker rim and thereby a bit tougher? Either way I like this concept for commuting and sitting down on the train the wheel can hide under my knees, calf and heal securing it and take no space at all, even standing up when people all over bumping into each other this is small enough to stand straight and wheel between my knees like I do the ACM today. Only the ACM is a bit bulky and I stand wider still taking a bit of space up where there is none to be taken quite frankly. Looked the Mten3 before but too thick for this specific task I suspect + small 10" might be though riding the last bit on and not exactly a flat nice road, but maybe doable? Not sure must do research and saw the s5 is 15kg and no longer the handy 7.5kg on offer from the i5, but I am a bit heavy too so.. Interesting, wish there was one in between the 2 at max 10kg, 300-400Wh and no discotheque lights just a though shell made to handle punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 now they translated that page. but still saw no one in the wild... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Onymous Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The I5 was a terrific idea that never really made it in practice. I bought one and immediately broke the shell trying to go into a driveway that had a two inch shelf that cracked the bottom of the shell. That was only cosmetic and it didnt ruin the ride at all. However when it started turning on in my backpack while I was walking around I tried to glue a cover over the power switch and wound up glueing it in the off position. Then I got it to turn on, but couldnt get it to turn off. it is still in pieces on a shelf in my Warehouse. i will be looking forward to the S1 if it ever make it to market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I got one i5+ month ago for the last mile trips, like it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Onymous Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, WaveCut said: I got one i5+ month ago for the last mile trips, like it :) Did you mod it yet? I really loved that little vehicle the few times I was able to ride it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 It's second hand and meant to be waterproof-modded, so I did not open it, and, to be honest, don't want to open nor mod it, just because I like it as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Onymous Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Yeah, the only thing I wouldve modded would be the case anyway. Did the waterproofing solve the power button issue of turning on in your backpack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 No, I don't think so, it's soft and easy to switch on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 You should check initial message date and year before quoting things updated since then and there was barely any info on this wheel until release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Onymous Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I see a lot of comments about what if half the system fails at 80%, and other such worrying. The IPS line was the first to use 12 mosfets as a standard part of their boards. Heat failure on the 60V with 12 mosfets should be extremely rare anywhere but the Mojave or Death Valley. I think the tires would melt first. ? We will have to see if their firmware keeps pace with their architecture. I have mine ordered already so I am ready to see. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 What is the wattage of the two motors? 500 watts each? 300 watts each? On the IPS website it says max wattage 1000 watts, and on the Japanese website linked above (taotao?) it says max wattage 1000-1500. The top speed is in line with an 800 watt motor wheel, and the repeated claims of great torque and hill climbing are impressive, I'm just wondering what this wheel would compare to. Probably a KS-14D/S or something, I'm guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Onymous Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: The top speed is in line with an 800 watt motor wheel, and the repeated claims of great torque and hill climbing are impressive, I'm just wondering what this wheel would compare to. Probably a KS-14D/S or something, I'm guessing. I am even thinking the V8 and Mten3 middle area as well as those you listed. I am guessing it is for those who want a more portable mid distance wheel they can toss in a car and possibly not always comit to ride. I plan on doing mostly park and side street riding. I am anxious to see how it performs offroad. The IPS T350 had an amazing amount of torque and went up every hill in my area as well at the mten3 or the ks14c 800watt. The i5 is so thin, its just amusing to ride something like it. This will have a fatter tire at 2.15” width but the body looks like a Samsonite suitcase! Its adorable. I want one in butterscotch. It is very slim as well, so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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