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Oh this pisses me off! Hope they find the bastards! 

1 hour ago, Jason McNeil said:

Poor guy, I'm sending him out a set of replacement parts...

Way to go Jason!:thumbup: 

Edit:  I am just steaming over this! For those that don't believe in guns to protect yourself this is a situation where the guy is completely surrounded by three assailants with no means to escape! He would have been completely justified to pull the trigger and blow them away!

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This pisses me off man, worthless son of bitches, that's why I carry my 40 cal everywhere I go let one someone try to beat me up for my Unicycle I'll make sure the cops don't hear their side of the story

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Wow. This reaffirms the need to keep really aware of your surrounds and pay attention to your internal gut instinct to avoid this and what happened to @MaxLinux   When in doubt keep a wide berth around people you don't know when in isolated surroundings.

Let's hope they catch these guys, but the odds are long that they will.

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20 hours ago, who_the said:

BASTARDS!

But to kill someone (or three people) over a EUC or a fat lip? This particular American says no way.

But how do you know that your attackers are going to stop at a fat lip?The man in the article actually suffered a concussion too. A deadly blow to the head could have just as easily been the result.

 According to the FBI UCR data from 2015, 624 people were murdered with hands, fists, feet, etc. I do not have any reason to believe that someone attacking me has any intention to stop short off killing me. How would anyone know that? If you value your life less than that of a criminal's, that is indeed your choice, and you can act accordingly. But I chose to live, and to potentially save the lives of other potential future victims of the same attackers by acting within the well established parameters of the laws in my state.

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Some of you are indeed overthinking things.  If you are being attacked by a full grown man or even a strong teenager, you could indeed be seriously or permanently injured or even killed. Pretty easily too.  If you're attacked by three men?  You are absolutely in mortal danger.  

There's no way of you knowing when they will stop, or if it will be too late when they do.  They probably won't even know; a thug is not a doctor, and three of them rampaging on an innocent are not exactly in control of their emotions or prone to good judgment.

If you think you're Bruce Lee so it would be ignoble to have or use a gun instead of just engaging thugs one at a time in the honorable fashion, good luck.  If you realize that in a violent encounter you will almost always be at a disadvantage but still feel like rolling the dice with your survival, remain unarmed and hope for the best.  Some people are fine with that. 

Others arm themselves.  Either way there can be severe consequences, as we are by definition not talking about trivial matters.  

Personally, I'd much rather be the one doing the choosing as to who lives and dies, if one of the people who might die is me.  I respect other people's rights to believe whatever they like and not protect themselves or their families.  Given the choice, though, I would rather make my own decisions in that regard and not have them made for me by someone else.

 

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On 4/27/2017 at 0:24 AM, who_the said:

BASTARDS!

But I absolutely disagree that this situation warrants lethal force. If your life is truly threatened or at risk, then yes. But to kill someone (or three people) over a EUC or a fat lip? This particular American says no way.

If you are actively being beat up especially by 3 people like what happened in this case, then off bets are off and you should be able to defend yourself however you can which should include lethal force. You are putting your lives in the hands of thugs if all you do is just go into the fetal position and cover your head.

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Update on Devin Dumas. As you may realize by my previous comments this case bothers me immensely!  Simply put...I Hate Bullies! 

i spoke to the Westminster Police Department this morning. A case # has been assigned (#2017-06610) but to date there have been no arrests. The detective in charge is Jeff Black. I have left the detective a voice mail. Hopefully  he can shed more light as the case proceeds. 

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On 4/28/2017 at 9:14 AM, kour said:

true; though in virginia, as long as it's not spring-propelled and in plain sight, you're good to go

Almost bought one, but then realized the attacker would be likely to take it from my wimpy person and use it against me:(  Would be of good use if I knew how to fight, though.  I'm thinking non lethal, like pepper spray.  That way, even if the bad guy takes it from you and uses it against you, the weapon itself won't kill you.

 

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