US69 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, Lyon said: Thanks for the advice! I had pre-ordered my V8 and am waiting for it to reach me. Hopefully the removable battery means we can install a more robust battery pack in for more ommph later. More robust? You mean more Watthours/miles/range? Nope..wont happen! this 40 cells yet are the highest one in market...and no higher ones in sight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 the "price" we pay for SLIMNESS you just cannot fit any more batteries in there i love the V8... but, still considering the KS16 because of that very reason 30 kph is the most i really have want to travel but i DO want 40 km (25 miles) as a realistic and repeatable range to travel... even being 85 kg Florida is FLAT but the MUCH HIGHER battery capacity (at least on paper) of the KS16 seems to be calling my name, even if the Inmotion V8 is a bit more up-to-date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason McNeil Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 First, UK (European), batch arrived this morning & are being sent out to Customers. For tomorrow, I need to ask my colleague to check 1) the handle, take some snaps of it, 2) charging plug, is it an GX16?, 3) is the side vinyl a decent quality?, 4) those side pads? Top pull away vinyl is obviously not intended to be in any sense protective or permanent. Standard equipment: 1.5A 84V charger, user manual, & side pads There's a bit of hitch with the fast(er) charger plans, our preferred supplier's PCB allows charging from 0-84V. The Inmotion Engineers have (probably quite rightfully) suggested that this is changed so that anything below 40v is not registered by the charger. This consequently is going to push back the 2.5A charger procurement by two weeks but will be available to purchase a bit later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer Rebellion Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 fantastic update Jason! looking forward for the public feedback, especially the clear vinyl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 beautiful unit can't wait to hear, see, and read more thanks for the pictures..... will be following this thread VERY CLOSELY by the way..... i know it's just because of the size of the unit.... but that pedal looks so UNDERsized to me i'm sure i'm wrong about that, of course i know you will be posting a lot more pictures thanks, as always, for everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEC Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 10 hours ago, Greg Spalding said: by the way..... i know it's just because of the size of the unit.... but that pedal looks so UNDERsized to me The pedals are actually quite large - the size is deceiving due it's oval shape. Check the V5F+ review thread - they're the same size. 12 hours ago, Jason McNeil said: First, UK (European), batch arrived this morning & are being sent out to Customers. Aww! Those five sweet words everybody want to hear / see: "Your order has been dispatched" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, HEC said: The pedals are actually quite large - the size is deceiving due it's oval shape. Check the V5F+ review thread - they're the same size. I appreciate that information. of course only standing on this unit or the KS16 would tell me for sure which one felt better, but I'm sure I would adapt either like everybody else. It is still a strange thing to me to buy something sight unseen like this, but that's just the way the world works. These days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Greg Spalding said: I appreciate that information. of course only standing on this unit or the KS16 would tell me for sure which one felt better, but I'm sure I would adapt either like everybody else. It is still a strange thing to me to buy something sight unseen like this, but that's just the way the world works. These days Clearwater, Florida? Isn't ewheels.com ...in Miami? Can't you take a visit there to see some of the wheel`s? :-) Jason is one of the nicest persons and seller here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: Clearwater, Florida? Isn't ewheels.com ...in Miami? Can't you take a visit there to see some of the wheel`s? :-) Jason is one of the nicest persons and seller here! he's awesome we have spoken i will buy from him he does NOT have a STOREFRONT, persay but, i must talk to him about that of course, i considered GOTWAY, too.... and i wish JASON SOLD THOSE (THAT alone would make us feel better about buying one here in the US) but.... the V8 vs. the K16 is where i'm at now 85kg (BEFORE breakfast today.... NAKED..... LOL) so, i need power and range (nothing about 30 kmh for me necessary) i will talk to jason again thanks for your thoughts and suggestions. i appreciate them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEC Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 21 minutes ago, Greg Spalding said: 85kg (BEFORE breakfast today.... NAKED..... LOL) so, i need power and range (nothing about 30 kmh for me necessary) Well I'll be able to do a direct KS-16 vs. V8 comparison soon from the point of view of tall person with large shoes / feet and in your weight range so it would give you a better idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, HEC said: Well I'll be able to do a direct KS-16 vs. V8 comparison soon from the point of view of tall person with large shoes / feet and in your weight range so it would give you a better idea that sounds PERFECT to me looking forward to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEC Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, Greg Spalding said: that sounds PERFECT to me looking forward to that I'll try to include MSuper v3 (820 Wh) as well but I'd need to arrange with @Henrik Olsen some longer test ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, HEC said: I'll try to include MSuper v3 (820 Wh) as well but I'd need to arrange with @Henrik Olsen some longer test ride. that would be so much help to so many of us... i really, really hope you can work that out thanking you, in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Greg Spalding said: he's awesome we have spoken i will buy from him he does NOT have a STOREFRONT, persay but, i must talk to him about that of course, i considered GOTWAY, too.... and i wish JASON SOLD THOSE (THAT alone would make us feel better about buying one here in the US) but.... the V8 vs. the K16 is where i'm at now 85kg (BEFORE breakfast today.... NAKED..... LOL) so, i need power and range (nothing about 30 kmh for me necessary) i will talk to jason again thanks for your thoughts and suggestions. i appreciate them I am 100kg and have had a KS16 680 for my 4 weeks Holiday in Thailand! It is more! than powerful enough! Fantastic wheel, best commuter because of the best trolley of an EUC and a greater range per wh than v3 and Ks18! Also with Option for 680wh or 820wh a lot more range than V8-480wh, which for me is the only downside of V8 Can only recommend the KS16! No downsides from my sight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: I am 100kg and have had a KS16 680 for my 4 weeks Holiday in Thailand! It is more! than powerful enough! Fantastic wheel, best commuter because of the best trolley of an EUC and a greater range per wh than v3 and Ks18! Also with Option for 680wh or 820wh a lot more range than V8-480wh, which for me is the only downside of V8 Can only recommend the KS16! No downsides from my sight! THIS is the most important information for me and i thank you VERY MUCH for taking the time to tell me these things the V8 is very appealing the "relatively" anemic battery size concerns me the unit is slim and i am aware that you cannot have thin and more batteries but the KS16 is really appealing to me more than ever i really appreciate you and this information thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just now, Greg Spalding said: THIS is the most important information for me and i thank you VERY MUCH for taking the time to tell me these things the V8 is very appealing the "relatively" anemic battery size concerns me the unit is slim and i am aware that you cannot have thin and more batteries but the KS16 is really appealing to me more than ever i really appreciate you and this information thank you I have some more informations: As i was in the hotest season in Thailand and on one of the Islands with a lot rocks and steep hills, i can also Report that it's fantastic in the heat and on those hills! Never had a Problem with the wheel :-) I have an KS16 Review from Thailand somewhere here with much more details :-) But i am to lazy to seach for the link now, sorry! My original plan was to bring it with me to Germany, but that didnot work out because of the Airline EUC Regulation of emirates! Otherwise i would still have it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 47 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: I have some more informations: As i was in the hotest season in Thailand and on one of the Islands with a lot rocks and steep hills, i can also Report that it's fantastic in the heat and on those hills! Never had a Problem with the wheel :-) I have an KS16 Review from Thailand somewhere here with much more details :-) But i am to lazy to seach for the link now, sorry! My original plan was to bring it with me to Germany, but that didnot work out because of the Airline EUC Regulation of emirates! Otherwise i would still have it! ah, the rules and regulations i will search for and find that review happy to hear all of this..... also, and perhaps i'm the ONLY one..... the "HELLO KING SONG" very loud at startup makes me GIGGLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Greg Spalding said: ah, the rules and regulations i will search for and find that review happy to hear all of this..... also, and perhaps i'm the ONLY one..... the "HELLO KING SONG" very loud at startup makes me GIGGLE Which in the End you can easily power Off :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: Which in the End you can easily power Off :-) when i want to operate in a more STEALTHY manner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noisycarlos Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 @KingSong69, since you tried both. Between the KS16 / MSuper 3, which feels more powerful? I know the MSuper has almost 2x the watts, but it's a bigger wheel too, so I'm curious if feels more sluggish. Also, how comfortable are they in terms of pedals compared to each other? Oh, and because of the larger diameter, how much harder or less maneuverable is the MSuper to ride slowly (around people and stuff)? Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evomark Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Thanks for the update @Jason McNeil Please post more pics! Like everyone else, I am torn between the v8 and the KS16 as well. The v8 is beautiful, but the KS16 isn't that bad looking either. Oh the decisions. I just wish I could buy it without bluetooth due to working in a secure facility. I'm going to have to somehow lock it outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 9 hours ago, noisycarlos said: @KingSong69, since you tried both. Between the KS16 / MSuper 3, which feels more powerful? I know the MSuper has almost 2x the watts, but it's a bigger wheel too, so I'm curious if feels more sluggish. Also, how comfortable are they in terms of pedals compared to each other? Oh, and because of the larger diameter, how much harder or less maneuverable is the MSuper to ride slowly (around people and stuff)? Thanks a lot! The Msuper is no sluggish wheel...drive wise and powerwise it is nearly the same as the KS16...sure the v3 has more watts....but you do not feel that a lot as smaller wheels have better torque.... one of my biggest surprises: That the agility of v3 was nearly same than Ks16!!! Pedal of v3 is one cm longer.....but i like Ks16/18 pedals also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEC Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 hours ago, evomark said: Thanks for the update @Jason McNeil Please post more pics! Like everyone else, I am torn between the v8 and the KS16 as well. The v8 is beautiful, but the KS16 isn't that bad looking either. Oh the decisions. I just wish I could buy it without bluetooth due to working in a secure facility. I'm going to have to somehow lock it outside. Could just not switch the whole wheel off before entering the building and carry it to where ever you want to keep it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evomark Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, HEC said: Could just not switch the whole wheel off before entering the building and carry it to where ever you want to keep it? Unfortunately not. I wish it was that simple. Anything wireless is not permitted and there are wireless detectors that conantly scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Spalding Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 hours ago, KingSong69 said: The Msuper is no sluggish wheel...drive wise and powerwise it is nearly the same as the KS16...sure the v3 has more watts....but you do not feel that a lot as smaller wheels have better torque.... one of my biggest surprises: That the agility of v3 was nearly same than Ks16!!! Pedal of v3 is one cm longer.....but i like Ks16/18 pedals also! As always, I appreciate that information so very much 4 minutes ago, evomark said: Unfortunately not. I wish it was that simple. Anything wireless is not permitted and there are wireless detectors that conantly scan. That sounds like a very secure location and it really makes no sense to me I guess you are allowed to bring a phone inside work but, the wheel can certainly turn off It does not need Bluetooth to work. It is just a convenience factor for monitoring to Your Phone, but They Work without Bluetooth obviously I don't know where you work and it is not of my business. It just seems like an odd thing to me there must be some way to certify devices like this as being safe in your work environment your employer should be able to do that, I would think but again, I'm sorry to hear that they won't and it is not my business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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