Guest Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 http://www.icbc.com/about-icbc/newsroom/Documents/low-powered.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I guess instead of segeway if I did get pulled over I would say its a Electric motor-assisted cycle* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alan Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I just sent an email to Victoria Segway Tours including your link to ICBC and asked them where I can ride it. If they offer tours they would know the laws and the class a Ninebot One is in. Maybe it is a motorized bicycle as the link just says pedals, not that they have to rotate. Few replies?; that may be because so few on this forum live in BC. I have a mental image of the local socialist storm troops tasering me off it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I never thought of that. and also didn't know there was any of these products in B.C. Thank you I just sent an email to Victoria Segway Tours including your link to ICBC and asked them where I can ride it. If they offer tours they would know the laws and the class a Ninebot One is in. Maybe it is a motorized bicycle as the link just says pedals, not that they have to rotate. Few replies?; that may be because so few on this forum live in BC. I have a mental image of the local socialist storm troops tasering me off it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Here is an interesting discussion that is off our topic but gives some insight into the thinking that exists in the legal system and BC laws regarding low power vehicles. It seems that EU's are not even classed in BC! I can't find any definition that fits them.http://www.meetup.com/Electric-Bicycles/messages/boards/thread/25174522I still haven't heard a response from a commercial operator and I would guess they would not want to stick their neck out with an opinion unless you were standing in front of them with $$$ to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelz Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) 14 views not one comment .A title that looks like a question - then only a link to a PDF, seems to be a legal issue I have no idea about, so why would I make a comment. Now I made one Edited June 26, 2015 by manuelz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 This is part of what I got from a company that does Segway tours on the island:You are correct about the laws however. But in Nanaimo they have a bylaw that allows the Segway in their parks and on trails as a cycle defined as a two wheeled device human or electric powered. Sidewalks and crosswalks are technically prohibited. However, we know of a few people that use them as their primary transportation due to disability and have no issues. We believe that if people get out and use them, are respectful and courteous they are not likely to have issues and frankly, it is probably the only way the laws will get changed. Mike gets out and uses it frequently for trips to the mall or to just get out and enjoy the scenery! The Ninebot One, we believe is a little different. While it operates the same as a Segway it is more like a cycle and can probably be more easily be considered as one and you are less likely to have issues. However, we have not got any documentation or verbal conversations with anyone of any substance to back up that belief. One can only believe that common sense has to prevail sometimes!I guess it's small enough not to attract the attention of the gendarmes. Still. It only takes one overzealous officer to spoil your day. Wheel? What wheel? This my hatbox....errr..... lunch box..... C'mon, we can't more of a safety hazard than those old codgers on the four wheel scooters. Can't see, can't hear, think they are still driving a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) A title that looks like a question - then only a link to a PDF, seems to be a legal issue I have no idea about, so why would I make a comment. Now I made one Lol you've got a point there. but i expect at least one EU owner has had a run in with johnny law at least once, wondering what their standpoint had been on them so far. EIther way pretty sure I'm going to stick with the "This is an electric motor assisted cycle officer " and I will probably buy a 480watt sticker jsut for the fun of it Motor assisted cycle . Operator is required by law to wear a bicycle helmet.• May be operated on the road like any bicycle, except where municipal bylaws restrict operation.• The motor must be electric, rated at 500 watts or less, and be incapable of propelling the cycle at a speed greater than 32 km/h on level ground, without pedaling. NOTE: Gas-powered cycles and electric cycles without attached pedals don’t qualify as an electric motor-assisted cycle. That means they won’t pass a provincial motor vehicle inspection that would enable them to meet registration, licensing and insurance requirements for on-road use.. **Although they may argue as it also says Electric Motor Assisted Cycle* A motor assisted cycle is a 2- or 3-wheeled cycle with a seat, pedals and an electric motor As we all know it has neither a seat nor 2 or 3 wheels Edited June 26, 2015 by popcorn added on ** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GQS Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 In reading the pdf, I don't see a specific ban or allowance for a single wheel EUc. I think you are still outside the law. Also, it would be nice to know what Canada considers the road. Does footpaths count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 So this is ICBC's response. The Ninebot falls under general restrictions for vehicles which do not and cannot meet the standards for on road use. Ninebots would fall under the same category as Segways. It may only be operated where the Motor Vehicle Act does not apply, such as private property that does not have public vehicle access or on a trail or pathway (if allowed by municipal bylaw). More information can be found at http://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registration/specialty-vehicles/Low-powered-vehicles/Pages/Segways.aspx. Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .KailiFeedback ICBC building trust. driving confidence.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 151 West Esplanade North Vancouver | British Columbia | V7M 3H9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme_michael Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I'm in the market for an EU and am moving to Victoria, BC in about a month, so I'm super bummed out to see this. Is there anyone local to BC who has personal experience with this - i.e. do you ride on sidewalks/roads, have you been hasseled, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) I for one will probably end up trying to create a town bylaw http://www.housing.gov.bc.ca/pub/stratapdf/Guide13.pdf <EDIT:wrong link whoops I'll try to find the one I was on earlier dont know why my copy paste does this sometimes >Don't know how far I will get I may try to canvas houses to show people what it is and explain it and get signatures before hand that way people don't just see it burning down the road and respond negatively like they do with skateboarders Edited July 2, 2015 by popcorn < > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmethvin Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 It really helps to have some company behind the effort, since they can afford to spend more time (money) than you can and make the case that it's good for everyone. In the US that happened in the early 2000s when Segway lobbied for most states to add exceptions that allowed them to not be registered and to run on sidewalks or bike lanes. If the market is ever going to take off, Ninebot (the new owner of Segway assets) will need to be sure that local jurisdictions treat EUs as "pedestrian devices" rather than back-yard toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
525rider Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 It was here in Seattle in the news that EU are legal on sidewalks and roads/streets without sidewalks with speed limit 35mph or less and illegal in bicycle lanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 At first I thought you guys were talking about the "largest bank in the world" (China state-owned bank). http://www.icbc-ltd.com/icbcltd/en/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 At first I thought you guys were talking about the "largest bank in the world" (China state-owned bank). http://www.icbc-ltd.com/icbcltd/en/Naw I don't trust banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmethvin Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 If you have enough money to put in a bank, you aren't spending enough on your electric unicycles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Boivin Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I live in Victoria BC. True that segways, EUCs, e-skateboards, electric scooters etc are outside the law, but you see people ride them all the time in bike lanes. I don't think the police bother people over them, as long as you're riding responsibly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyGrayCanada Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 That's my experience so far. I've been riding for less than 6 months and have done 1200km km so far, mostly on the bike paths. ICBCs position was recently defeated in court for an electric scooter rider, though that may not help us. https://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/no-plate-no-insurance-electric-scooter-rider-s-ticket-tossed-because-icbc-offers-no-policy-1.23950695 Also, there is a Victoria local interest forum here: @Msubasic and @Rywokast also here 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Boivin Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Thanks Tony! Good to know there are other EUC riders in town! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 this thread is ancient but yes, i would add i have had 14 EUCs over 2.5 years and close to 25,000 km experience... i have never once been bothered, couple times police wanted to check it out because they thought it was cool, zero comments on its legality.. feedback has been completely positive for me.. just behave yourself and follow the rules of the road.. if you have to ride on the sidewalk where there are people do so at only a jogging pace and no one will care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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