Tomek Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 2 hours ago, master255 said: @Vik's, batteries LG HG2. This is the best cells for today samsung 30Q is practically the same (from the specs they may seem inferior in max rated current, but tests show they are even better than HG2s in some ways, i.e. Samsung is known for very careful ratings of their cells ... and they are easier/cheaper to get) edit: ow, sorry, posting totally off-topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master255 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 All normal. In this thread https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/samsung-30q-vs-lg-hg2-pulsed-discharge-shootout-results.681442/ as result:The 30Q had a tiny bit better voltage under load while the HG2 had a tiny bit better capacity. What means LG HG2 better than 30Q. Better capacity much more needed than high voltage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master255 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'm not sure, and i need to test it again, but i noticed that when i switch off or on high speed mode then nothing happens! This means that high speed mode not working! That's what happened to my 3 km.\h.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriscalandro Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I think you have to power cycle after selecting high speed mode. I was changing this setting the other day and when i turned high speed mode off I was still able to go 18mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master255 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 18 hours ago, chriscalandro said: I think you have to power cycle after selecting high speed mode. I was changing this setting the other day and when i turned high speed mode off I was still able to go 18mph. I tested it today! High speed mode not working! And with him, and without him the maximum speed is 25 km.\h. This is a bug! I remind you, I have a new Ninebot One P wheel with the new motherboard 1.3.2, and the new firmware 1.4.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbgti Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 What is the "High Speed Mode"? Is it an option only available for 9B1 "P" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master255 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 51 minutes ago, cbgti said: What is the "High Speed Mode"? Is it an option only available for 9B1 "P" i don't know. Maybe. But now it not works on my P. This mode increases the maximum speed. A simple check mark in the options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Eisenman Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I've been riding for a week on a new Ninebot One using the v1.4 firmware. At 64 and again at 100 miles the self balanced ride began to stutter and kick and rideability was reduced to zero. Recalibrating the Ninebot seems to help. The problem goes away and smooth sel balanced riding returns. HoodRiderz suggested it is firmware update (v1.4) related. Regards, Bob Eisenman Massachusetts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSport Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Bob Eisenman said: HoodRiderz suggested it is firmware update (v1.4) related. It does seem like that's the Go-To for all problems NineBot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriscalandro Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I think the high speed mode issue is more app related than firmware. I updated with high speed mode on and now it seems I can't turn high speed mode off. I can hit 18mph easily and hold it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master255 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 @chriscalandro, Yes. I think so too. This is the biggest bug of the 1.4.0 firmware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriscalandro Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 It's not the firmware. It's probably just the app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 8 hours ago, chriscalandro said: It's not the firmware. It's probably just the app Or the battery, thinking that the battery is most important part of whole equation. The motion is good, how to protect battery is most important thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulandjacquelyn Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Updated my repaired P and well it now rides like a E+. I changed ride back to 0 before riding but it lost it's zip. Guessing as others have said , that this update is an attempt to slow MB damage that is occurring on the original P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grecofelipevix Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Hi everyone! I´ve ridden with my ninebot one e+ with new firmware 1.4.0 around 60km (in 3 days ) of distance and It´s going pretty good! I reached max speed around 23.7 km/h. I had not any problems so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 10 hours ago, grecofelipevix said: Hi everyone! I´ve ridden with my ninebot one e+ with new firmware 1.4.0 around 60km (in 3 days ) of distance and It´s going pretty good! I reached max speed around 23.6 km/h. I had not any problems so far. Hello, thanks for info. I was wondering: how comes that some have problems and some not. Maybe it depends on riding style (aggressive and pushing to the limits may be problematic for the new firmware) but I see you tried to reach max speed. Maybe it depends on motherboard? Is your serial number starting with N1 or with N2? I suppose it's N2, because it's faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master255 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 We need to create a list of bugs this firmware. i know this: 1) Not always, when you turn on, there is a balance. Very rarely, after a long delay. 2) Through the application, not all functions are working properly. 3) Lamps turn in the opposite direction. This is an obvious bug. 4) On hardness 0-3 wheel starts to rock back and forth. Anyone may expand the list bugs. Does anyone know something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik's Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, vla said: Hello, thanks for info. I was wondering: how comes that some have problems and some not. Maybe it depends on riding style (aggressive and pushing to the limits may be problematic for the new firmware) but I see you tried to reach max speed. Maybe it depends on motherboard? Is your serial number starting with N1 or with N2? I suppose it's N2, because it's faster. I think it is both motherboard and motor - related.That's why there are so many different results... And then there are not many users that say what kind of E+ version they have (revision, mb, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 On 8. Juni 2016 at 9:12 AM, master255 said: All normal. In this thread https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/samsung-30q-vs-lg-hg2-pulsed-discharge-shootout-results.681442/ as result:The 30Q had a tiny bit better voltage under load while the HG2 had a tiny bit better capacity. What means LG HG2 better than 30Q. Better capacity much more needed than high voltage. i have to disagree...the 30q and the Hg2 play both in the same class...so for this both its no question which to take... but what brings you a high capacity if this capacity can not be delivered under massive loads, which means high amperage drawings? thats exactly what our bikes need, the possibilty to go a long hill, or fast accelaration, equal to a high amp draw on the batterie.... thats why so many cheap wheels fail...their batteries or "1pack" cells fail because of exact this problem.... but sorry...this is really OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master255 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 @KingSong69, You really are talking about the most powerful cells in the world ??? They provide up to 30 (40 undocumented) amps! This is a very large amperage! And no one says that the 30q cells give greater amperes. According to the results of tests they give a little less amps and a maximum with the same lg hg2. Therefore, we do not compare amps, and other characteristics. Such as voltage and capacity. I think the capacity is more important than the voltage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, master255 said: @KingSong69, You really are talking about the most powerful cells in the world ??? They provide up to 30 (40 undocumented) amps! This is a very large amperage! And no one says that the 30q cells give greater amperes. According to the results of tests they give a little less amps and a maximum with the same lg hg2. Therefore, we do not compare amps, and other characteristics. Such as voltage and capacity. I think the capacity is more important than the voltage. sorry.... i think you misunderstand me... like i sad...30q and HG2 are both same class....no big difference at all but for example: 1,5 or 2 years before the maximum mah you could get were 3400mah on a panasonic 18650B..... but they just could give a max load of 6,5 amp.... so for our wheels...they were not usable....not enough amps...in this former times a sony vtc5 was the best you could get for a high load....but the only could give 2600mah..... so if i have only a 16s1p pack and not lets say 4 of them...i always would prefere a high load batterie before a high mah batterie... for sure: with the hg2 they choose the best for the 9b...thats absolut no question! i just dont agree to a general: high watthour is the best...forget the rest ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSport Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 6 hours ago, master255 said: 3) Lamps turn in the opposite direction. This is an obvious bug. You can unplug your LED's and reverse plug the cables in to opposite plugs. Then they will rotate the correct way. 6 hours ago, Vik's said: I think it is both motherboard and motor - related.That's why there are so many different results... And then there are not many users that say what kind of E+ version they have (revision, mb, etc.) I agree. Also, one other issue is that sometimes when flashing firmware, it does not go completely smoothly. I create and test Firmware for Cell Phones. I've flashed firmware to Cell Phones Many Hundreds of times. Once in a while, it appears to flash correctly, but there may be a little glitch or two (not booting correctly, no sound, radios not working, etc). After flashing again, and sometimes after doing a Hard Reset, everything works as expected. Not sure why this happens, but it does occasionally on phones. I'm guessing the wheels can react the same? Unfortunately, on the wheel, there is no way to Re-Flash the firmware to test this theory. And, I don't know of a way to Hard Reset a NineBot, unless the 'on it's side for 17 beeps' thing is it. Might be worth a try for those having issues. I've been fortunate to not run into any of these issues yet, so maybe I've got the correct Motherboard and Motor combo... N20, 1.3.1 MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grecofelipevix Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 7 hours ago, vla said: Hello, thanks for info. I was wondering: how comes that some have problems and some not. Maybe it depends on riding style (aggressive and pushing to the limits may be problematic for the new firmware) but I see you tried to reach max speed. Maybe it depends on motherboard? Is your serial number starting with N1 or with N2? I suppose it's N2, because it's faster. Yes, I just was testing the max speed. I usually ride around 16 - 18 km/h. My serial number begin N20EA1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbgti Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 The Mobo v1.3.1 are faster than Mobo v1.3.0. After changing my burnt v1.3.1 for a v1.3.0, my maximum speed lost 2-3km/h (9B1 E+ N20). Before, I had a 9B1 E+ N10 with a Mobo v1.3.0 but the speed was slower than my 9B1 E+ N20. In my case (Fw 1.2.7 for all) : 9B1 E+ N10 Mobo v1.3.0: 20-21km/h 9B1 E+ N20 Mobo v1.3.1: 24-25km/h 9B1 E+ N20 Mobo v1.3.0: 22-23km/h After updating the Firmware to 1.3.5 and 1.4.0 on my 9B1 E+ N20, the maximum speed stays at 22-23km/h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 19 hours ago, cbgti said: The Mobo v1.3.1 are faster than Mobo v1.3.0. After changing my burnt v1.3.1 for a v1.3.0, my maximum speed lost 2-3km/h (9B1 E+ N20). Before, I had a 9B1 E+ N10 with a Mobo v1.3.0 but the speed was slower than my 9B1 E+ N20. In my case (Fw 1.2.7 for all) : 9B1 E+ N10 Mobo v1.3.0: 20-21km/h 9B1 E+ N20 Mobo v1.3.1: 24-25km/h 9B1 E+ N20 Mobo v1.3.0: 22-23km/h After updating the Firmware to 1.3.5 and 1.4.0 on my 9B1 E+ N20, the maximum speed stays at 22-23km/h. Thanks, I was not aware of Mobo versions differences. I checked mine: I have 1.3.0 (serial N20). I see that your 1.3.1 board burnt and @Cranium's one too and that 1.3.1 is (or was) used in P: "I received my Ninebot One P today [...] It is version 1.3.1 which happens to be the same as the control board that came on my Ninebot One E+ that I received a few weeks ago. My E+ was on firmware version 1.2.7 which had no reported issues when the board fried and dumped me to the ground. I was lucky I didn't get hurt and was able to get a replacement control board in only a week shipped from Ninebot with the help of Forward California. The replacement board was a version 1.3 board. I felt I had been downgraded but after looking at the Mosfet ratings, I was ok with it. It has worked fine so far." @cbgti So you have the same as me (N20 1.3.0), but I stayed on FW 1.3.5. You tried to check max speed and wheel passed this test and is not slower. And generally - are you driving fast and dynamically or slow and gently? I drive in both styles, so the wheel needs to allow the fast and dynamic style too. My FW 1.3.5 allows that, I am wondering if 1.4.0 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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