Off-wheel exercises?

[SGeek]

It's snowing.  Cold and windy.  I'm not going riding, but thinking about heading into winter and losing what strength and skill I've managed to acquire in my first month of nearly daily rides.

One obvious exercise is to assume a riding stance while doing other things like cooking.  This feels like it hits the same muscles. 

I'm not good enough to ride in my house without breaking things (I've tried).

I'm sure there will be some nice days, but probably not a lot.  Any special tips or advice for a long cold winter without daily rides?

[Punxatawneyjoe]

1 hour ago, SGeek said:

Any special tips or advice for a long cold winter without daily rides?

Get a knobby and ride in the snow, it's fun. This was one of my firsts ride ever in snow after 3 months of learning to ride.

 

[bpong]

any exercise meant for skiing is great...

https://www.westlondonphysio.co.uk/news-articles/our-top-5-ski-tips/#:~:text=The wall sit is a,between 1 and 2 minutes.

especially, the wall sit.... its so simple and yet,  very very difficult to hold just for a few minutes... plus the one legged balance is good too....

cheers,

bpong

[SGeek]

On 11/22/2024 at 11:56 AM, Punxatawneyjoe said:

Get a knobby and ride in the snow, it's fun. This was one of my firsts ride ever in snow after 3 months of learning to ride.

 

Thanks. I'm tempted, but I'm afraid it will be some time before the admiral (spouse) will be happy about spending MORE money on my new toys.

On 11/22/2024 at 12:01 PM, bpong said:

any exercise meant for skiing is great...

https://www.westlondonphysio.co.uk/news-articles/our-top-5-ski-tips/#:~:text=The wall sit is a,between 1 and 2 minutes.

especially, the wall sit.... its so simple and yet,  very very difficult to hold just for a few minutes... plus the one legged balance is good too....

cheers,

bpong

Perfect, thank you.

[Robse]

On 11/22/2024 at 4:44 PM, SGeek said:

It's snowing. 

I'm not good enough to ride in my house without breaking things (I've tried).

 

Try harder, get better.  I've broken a little toe and punched a hole in a wall.  And I still have burn marks from tire on the parquet floor. But it's f** fun

[Funky]

13 minutes ago, Robse said:

I've broken a little toe and punched a hole in a wall.  And I still have burn marks from tire on the parquet floor. But it's f** fun

Who hurt you..? 

[Robse]

3 minutes ago, Funky said:

Who hurt you..? 

the Ninebot and the stove ... 🙄

[bpong]

SGeek,

One other alternative to riding in winter slush, ice and salt, including the bravado,  is to find any good, relatively dry indoor or covered outdoor parking facilities.  It will be cold, and depending on time of day, some cars... but you can certainly practice riding yur euc and not worry about exposing yur ride to winters street crap.  How to get there ?  Yeah, well, walk yur machine (which is what i do) or ride it or take it as close to the facility as possible via public transit.  Either way, yu still keep riding and look after yur machine at the same time...

[SGeek]

On 11/22/2024 at 11:56 AM, Punxatawneyjoe said:

Get a knobby and ride in the snow, it's fun. This was one of my firsts ride ever in snow after 3 months of learning to ride.

It's a nice day,  still snow on the ground. I went for a ride without a knobby.  Didn't go too well, a fairly small uphill incline and my tire spins out in the snow and a couple face plants.  Ah well, it was fun and I got in some riding. 

[Punxatawneyjoe]

1 hour ago, SGeek said:

spins out in the snow

What tire are you using? You can also stud the tire or use ice screws in the knobby.

[Funky]

Try running with summer shoes in circle on ice/snow.. Do you think you gonna slip? Ofc yes.

With EUC it's even easier to slip.. Especially on slick tire! One could say that snow/slush is even worse than hard ice... As you simply slide in it. On ice you still can somewhat catch the ice on knobs. Slick tire - not a chance.. Also NO turning in winter, you need to go in straight line and be ready to slip and slide when you start to turn. Turn in a big as possible radius. No quick 90 degree turns, or turns on small circles. Turning only in big circles..

Any icy/snowy uphill's - good luck. You gonna spin out on slick tires..

Edited Saturday at 09:20 PM by Funky

[onewheelkoregro]

40 minutes ago, Funky said:

Try running with summer shoes in circle on ice/snow.. Do you think you gonna slip? Ofc yes.

With EUC it's even easier to slip.. Especially on slick tire! One could say that snow/slush is even worse than hard ice... As you simply slide in it. On ice you still can somewhat catch the ice on knobs. Slick tire - not a chance.. Also NO turning in winter, you need to go in straight line and be ready to slip and slide when you start to turn. Turn in a big as possible radius. No quick 90 degree turns, or turns on small circles. Turning only in big circles..

Any icy/snowy uphill's - good luck. You gonna spin out on slick tires..

How does ice form on a hill? I live on top of a hill and never once had ice develop on the road up the hill

[Robse]

4 minutes ago, onewheelkoregro said:

How does ice form on a hill? I live on top of a hill and never once had ice develop on the road up the hill

Supercooled water, liquid raindrops hitting the road surface an instantly turns into ice (clear invisible ice, dangerous! ) 

 

[Funky]

1 hour ago, onewheelkoregro said:

How does ice form on a hill? I live on top of a hill and never once had ice develop on the road up the hill

Snow/Ice melts over day, when sun heats up the day? Over night it freezes more and next day it's bit colder and it doesn't melt anymore.. Now you got icy roads?

At least that's how it is around my area when over night it's -2-5C and at day it's +2+4C temps. First week (or two) when winters starts.. When it's temps stops being in +C's it's stops melting. 

Maybe you got those winters - when it starts being cold - it stays cold for whole winter?  No temps around 0?

Edited Saturday at 11:06 PM by Funky

[onewheelkoregro]

17 hours ago, Funky said:

Snow/Ice melts over day, when sun heats up the day? Over night it freezes more and next day it's bit colder and it doesn't melt anymore.. Now you got icy roads?

At least that's how it is around my area when over night it's -2-5C and at day it's +2+4C temps. First week (or two) when winters starts.. When it's temps stops being in +C's it's stops melting. 

Maybe you got those winters - when it starts being cold - it stays cold for whole winter?  No temps around 0?

Last winter was pretty bad. Caused me to crash dozens of times. But I was only going about 18-20 or 25-30 km an hour because of conditions. But I live in the North American Southwest in the northern part of the desert this winter has been pretty mild only snowed once and I'm grateful

[Funky]

1 hour ago, onewheelkoregro said:

Last winter was pretty bad. Caused me to crash dozens of times. But I was only going about 18-20 or 25-30 km an hour because of conditions. But I live in the North American Southwest in the northern part of the desert this winter has been pretty mild only snowed once and I'm grateful

Same here till now. It has snowed only once and the snow on ground staid only 2 days.. But i already changed to my studded winter tire. Now i'm ready.  Temps staying around 0.. I personally like this winter more than past one. In past one it was already -20C temps by this points... Looks like winter will be in March this year.   Each passing year winter comes later and later, as world keeps spinning and changing it's axis over years slowly, but surly. Also all that warming up thing.. Can't wait when in winter i will have +5 temps.. No more freezing.  

Edited Sunday at 06:14 PM by Funky

[Robse]

Winter in Denmark is not winter anymore.  50 year ago there was usually snow from mid november to february, and typically temps below freezing point.  Nowadays it's rain, rain, more rain, rain, and rain. (just like spam) And it keeps getting worse from year to year. Sigh! ☹️

[Jmac]

Hi my son lives in Copenhagen and I'm wondering if you find commuting to be too infrequent (due to the wet) to encourage him to build EUC skills.  He drives the commute halftime and bicycles the other half at present

Edited Sunday at 09:16 PM by Jmac

[Robse]

3 hours ago, Jmac said:

Hi my son lives in Copenhagen and I'm wondering if you find commuting to be too infrequent (due to the wet) to encourage him to build EUC skills.  He drives the commute halftime and bicycles the other half at present

This is not a generalization, it is an expression of my opinion.
I do not use my EUC for important transport - i.e. where I have a
fixed agreement to stick to.  I simply do not trust this means of transport.
Too many things can go wrong, and you are also (in Denmark) in a kind of gray zone,
as PEVs (EUC / Scooters) that can go faster than 20 kmph are not allowed.  
It's not a question of how fast you ride, it's about what the vehicle can do.
Try to find an EUC today that can't go faster than that.  Good luck with that.
And it's not because the police are chasing us who ride EUC, I clearly feel that we
have a reasonably long leash as long as we ride responsibly and don't bother anyone,
but it's not legal.  And there is hardly anyone who has time to ride to work on a
Ninebot one S2 at 18 kmph... which is slower than cycling.. (so actually not legal
either because it can move at 25 kmph as long as the battery is over 96% charged = the first 3 km.)
Today in Denmark you can buy an electric bicycle that can travel at 25 kmph and has a range of
approx. 80 km for approx. $800.   How much EUC do you get for $800.  How durable is an EUC?
Most EUCs you can buy today make high demands on the owner to be able to carry out necessary
repairs themselves.  Just think about changing tires due to a puncture.  Have fun with that.
Regardless of which EUC it is, it is a bit of a hassle compared to how easy it is to patch a bike
- or to get someone to do it for a fee.  There are bike shops everywhere.  And if you can't do it
yourself, you can pay for it.  If it is an EUC, then the trouble starts with getting a new tire.
Nothing is off the shelf standard.  Applies not only to tires but pretty much everything to EUC.  
It has to be brought home from abroad - often takes several weeks, months, and then it's not even
certain that it will fit. Most EUC, regardless of waterproof, are not at all equipped to cope with
our climate in Denmark.  It is far too cold, damp, dirty, and salty. (salt on the roads in the winter)
and i know of several people trying to use their wheels for transport all year round, a lot of repairs
is the result of that.  Newer wheels with suspension have been given an additional component that
cannot cope with the weather either.  In fact, most EUC suspensions are so poorly constructed that they
probably only work optimally if you placed the EUC in a dust and waterproof laboratory box...
But apart from all this, the fun factor of riding the EUC is unsurpassed, so I think that the son
should look into acquiring an EUC regardless.  It is relaxing and refreshing and we should enjoy it
as long as we are not being chased by those with the blue lights.

 

Edited Monday at 12:56 AM by Robse