Robse Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ronin Ryder said: Following this logic, Cars are also dangerous because anyone can drive one and take the wrong call… my posting was a ironic joke and blow to the people who always blame the equipment when they crash and it's solely their own stupid fault😁. Btw, cars dont make you faceplant in case of engine fault😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollin-on-1 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, earthtwin said: @Rollin-on-1 thanks for the insight about battery sag and the comment about why alarms are happening without much time for correction. It makes a lot of sense. U-stride has been riding Begodes for a long time now without a horrible accident, so he must understand the power dynamics better than Chooch. umm, U-stride has cutout wheels before. He cutout an MSX or MSP in a race a while back and his tumbling wheel took out Roger Hajali. I believe it was Amped Electric Games last year iirc. Edited September 8, 2023 by Rollin-on-1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Robse said: Begode is extra superficial extreme dangerous because the user is able to make decisions about speed, wind, mood, road, and other on his own, all by himself, his mind, wisdom and skillfulness. While a joke, you touch a serious aspect of wheels. Begode enforces more “freedom” to the rider to ride how the heck they want. And if they push a tiny bit too hard, they fall. So then it’s their fault because they pushed too hard? That doesn’t make any sense to me. The limits of the wheel at any given moment depend on exactly what you mentioned, speed, wind, mood, road… as well as temperature, tire pressure, incline, etc. We are literally riding an actual computer, and yet we’re supposed to take all these factors into account ourselves and calculate the amount of acceleration the wheel is capable of in it heads?? At any second?? That’s ridiculous. I’m not saying that all wheels should be 100% foolproof (even the V13 was proved not to be). But that there must be even a possibility for the rider to ride without crashing even if they would calculate the wind direction slightly wrong in their heads. Wheels mustn’t be foolproof, but they do need to be saneproof. Edited September 9, 2023 by mrelwood 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyss Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 New spring assembly by begode, looks like a CNC piece to reinforce that top bolt? Glad to see them taking note of issues. Unsure if it's the best way to go about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whalesmash Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, Eyss said: New spring assembly by begode, looks like a CNC piece to reinforce that top bolt? Glad to see them taking note of issues. Unsure if it's the best way to go about it? Just watched it on their FB page. It's a okay fix, but it's still not going to change the fact that the existing 900lb spring doesn't have enough throw for the suspension travel. Would be simple to prove, just show a picture of the old 900lb spring and then the correct 900lb spring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Freeforester Posted September 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Eyss said: New spring assembly by begode, looks like a CNC piece to reinforce that top bolt? Glad to see them taking note of issues. Unsure if it's the best way to go about it? Maybe getting the fundamentals of the linkage design geometry and spring design and spec of their suspension systems right from the get-go would help? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onkeldanuel Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Eyss said: New spring assembly by begode, looks like a CNC piece to reinforce that top bolt? Glad to see them taking note of issues. Unsure if it's the best way to go about it? No, because we want to be able to switch to a 3rd Party shock easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Wasn't the issue that the original springs provided had too short of a stroke causing coil bind? So what's with this solution? >visible confusion< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onkeldanuel Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Rawnei said: Wasn't the issue that the original springs provided had too short of a stroke causing coil bind? So what's with this solution? >visible confusion< They make it easy .. since there exists no 900lbs spring with a minimum stroke of 55mm they throw in an cnc-piece in the damper itself and hope the damper and spring and linkage wont explode 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 I'm sure it's great for the linkage and the 130mm travel is pretty much paper product then unless you go air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onkeldanuel Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Does anyone know for sure if the stroke needed on the Damper is 50mm or 55mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punxatawneyjoe Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 In the video from page 15 the guy that found the problem says 51mm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Begode is showing their new solution to the bending of the shock mounting pin in action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeforester Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Meanwhile rider goes to have trolley handle surgically removed… slick, the way he manages to re-place the handle in the closed position each time, and almost out of video shot too, lol! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, Freeforester said: Meanwhile rider goes to have trolley handle surgically removed… slick, the way he manages to re-place the handle in the closed position each time, and almost out of video shot too, lol! Why trolley with your hand when you can trolley with your crotch. 😝 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jason McNeil Posted September 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2023 Here's a pic of the upgraded coil/pin support structure. Begode's shipping the 12.9 grade bolts now, with this support structure in a couple weeks—each one requires CNC machine time... 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jason McNeil said: Here's a pic of the upgraded coil/pin support structure. Begode's shipping the 12.9 grade bolts now, with this support structure in a couple weeks—each one requires CNC machine time... That's great but have they sourced coils with proper stroke also? That was the main problem. Edited September 13, 2023 by Rawnei 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason McNeil Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Rawnei said: That's great but have they sourced coils with proper stroke also? That was the main problem. Yep, a new coil/spring will be available at the same time as this reinforcement structure. Specifics of the compression force specs & coil length will be provided in the next couple days—BG is still experimenting with a few different options. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onkeldanuel Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Jason McNeil said: Yep, a new coil/spring will be available at the same time as this reinforcement structure. Specifics of the compression force specs & coil length will be provided in the next couple days—BG is still experimenting with a few different options. Coil length? You mean the length of the spring itself, or? Not the whole shock dimensions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, onkeldanuel said: Coil length? You mean the length of the spring itself, or? Not the whole shock dimensions? The 900lb coil supplied for early batch buyers of the Extreme coil version had too short a stroke and got coil bind, it's not the same as eye to eye length, the 750lb coil was from what I understand the correct stroke already, given how the linkage is designed most people aim for 900lb (and even trying to source higher lb coils). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Coil springs have three main lengths: (1) free length (2) solid length (fully compressed) (3) stroke length = free length - solid length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantraguy Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Jason McNeil said: Here's a pic of the upgraded coil/pin support structure. Begode's shipping the 12.9 grade bolts now, with this support structure in a couple weeks—each one requires CNC machine time... Will that device be compatible with other user-sourced shock options? Or is it essentially integrated into the shock that Begode ships with the wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rawnei Posted September 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mantraguy said: Will that device be compatible with other user-sourced shock options? Or is it essentially integrated into the shock that Begode ships with the wheel? Of course it's integrated and part of their propitiatory shock, that is what you are looking at in the photo, with correct coil stroke it's questionable if that sort of parts strength is required in the first place. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason McNeil Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Mantraguy said: Will that device be compatible with other user-sourced shock options? Or is it essentially integrated into the shock that Begode ships with the wheel? It's looking that way... More details emerging: the new spring/coil length is 120-130mm & they're having to make a custom spring for the updated support frame, as it's a few mm thicker in diameter (left). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onkeldanuel Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, Jason McNeil said: It's looking that way... More details emerging: the new spring/coil length is 120-130mm & they're having to make a custom spring for the updated support frame, as it's a few mm thicker in diameter (left). Yeah, dont know if engineering an whole shock is the right approach.....even more so because Begode isnt an Shockmanufacturer and doesnt know how to built it to todays standards for sure ... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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