Popular Post Mango Posted February 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) Another leak from a telegram source. Summer 2023 looking like a return to smaller wheels. 👍 Sherman S 126v 16" 2200wh, 80 plus km/h. T4 killer. Ofiicially named Veteran Patton https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/31690-sherman-s-16-126v-2200wh/?do=findComment&comment=466096 Edited December 15, 2023 by RagingGrandpa (clarified title) 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 126V is Veteran's next upgrade after 100V! I wonder how long this has been in the works. Begode 134V wheels have existed for a while now. Decent battery size for a 16 incher! Well, it's more than the usual 1800Wh and not quite the really neat 3600Wh, but ok. Comes with the voltage so it's the natural choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 10 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: 126V is Veteran's next upgrade after 100V! I wonder how long this has been in the works. Begode 134V wheels have existed for a while now. Decent battery size for a 16 incher! Well, it's more than the usual 1800Wh and not quite the really neat 3600Wh, but ok. Comes with the voltage so it's the natural choice. The Abrams was announced as a 116v wheel and changed to 100v at the very last moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I guess the batte for 16" suspension wheel supremacy has begun. Begode fired the first shot. Now we have Inmotion's V14, and Sherman S 16". @mrelwood would not like the surely over 60 lbs. weight of these wheels. Sherman S 16" can't be much lighter than the S22. Basically spec'd like an S22, but with a 16" wheel, and a higher top speed. If this wheel turns out to be stable at speeds, this could be great for fast urban commuting. Due to the 16" diameter wheel, acceleration and braking should be responsive, with agility to boot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstuart Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 4 hours ago, techyiam said: I guess the batte for 16" suspension wheel supremacy has begun. Begode fired the first shot. Now we have Inmotion's V14, and Sherman S 16". @mrelwood would not like the surely over 60 lbs. weight of these wheels. Sherman S 16" can't be much lighter than the S22. Basically spec'd like an S22, but with a 16" wheel, and a higher top speed. If this wheel turns out to be stable at speeds, this could be great for fast urban commuting. Due to the 16" diameter wheel, acceleration and braking should be responsive, with agility to boot. Take my money now for the pre order. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 This is getting interesting! Especially when old rumors say that KingSong S16 would be their next wheel as well. So three manufacturers all try to fight for the 16” crown next! @techyiam is right though, in that I still might not find a reason to upgrade myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BKW Posted February 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2023 They have ensured we stay broke forever 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 2 hours ago, BKW said: They have ensured we stay broke forever Capitalism at it's best. At least there are real gains. In the motorcycle world, every few years they brought out new models that don't match the hype. Many feels the Begode 134-volt is a joy to ride when it works. The Sherman S and the V13 are electric wheels that have truly raised the bar. But if one has the discipline to wait for the early batch issues to subside, then it isn't that bad. Usually by this time, there would be only a few that are worth considering, given one's use case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstuart Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, techyiam said: Capitalism at it's best. At least there are real gains. In the motorcycle world, every few years they brought out new models that don't match the hype. Many feels the Begode 134-volt is a joy to ride when it works. The Sherman S and the V13 are electric wheels that have truly raised the bar. But if one has the discipline to wait for the early batch issues to subside, then it isn't that bad. Usually by this time, there would be only a few that are worth considering, given one's use case. I think it's interesting that on there 18inch 100lb wheel they go 100v, but on the 16 inch 75lb wheel they go 126v...... seems backwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, wstuart said: I think it's interesting that on there 18inch 100lb wheel they go 100v, but on the 16 inch 75lb wheel they go 126v...... seems backwards. My guess would be that the 126-volt system did not get developed in time. Personally I was expecting a higher voltage drive system to come out. Of course I didn't know when. Now we know, the Sherman S would surely get the 126-volt too sometimes in the future. Capitalism at its best. There is always something more enticing in the near future. Edited February 6, 2023 by techyiam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstuart Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, techyiam said: My guess would be that the 126-volt system did not get developed in time. Personally I was expecting a higher voltage drive system to come out. Of course I didn't know when. Now we know, the Sherman S would surely get the 126-volt too sometimes in the future. Capitalism at its best. There is also something more enticing in the near future. Yeah I bet you're right. I thought I remember seeing in some video that Jason strongly encouraged Leaperkim to stick with 100v. I think it was the right move. I wonder if Leaperkim is going 126v because they now feel pressure to differentiate their wheel from the T4 and Inmotion 16" suspension wheel? The Sherman S is pretty impressive at 100v. At 126v it will be an unbeatable wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, wstuart said: The Sherman S is pretty impressive at 100v. At 126v it will be an unbeatable wheel. I am hoping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I'm guessing if this rumour is true then the Sherman S will be updated shortly to a higher voltage and maybe the option for an upgrade for current users? With Inmotion looking at going with linkage for its 16" variant will Veteran need to do the same? What are the implications of Veteran using the same kind of suspension as on the Sherman S on this smaller form factor wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, The Brahan Seer said: What are the implications of Veteran using the same kind of suspension as on the Sherman S on this smaller form factor wheel? Excessive width, and possibly height as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 hours ago, The Brahan Seer said: I'm guessing if this rumour is true then the Sherman S will be updated shortly to a higher voltage and maybe the option for an upgrade for current users? I wish they would upgrade to a higher voltage sherman-s because it'd make my next wheel purchase a lot easier! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mango Posted February 7, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2023 126v upgrade path for current Sherman S users would mean new batteries and new control board, essentially 2/3 the price of the wheel. I don't see an upgrade path for current SS owners. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BKW Posted February 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Unofficial: Begode has heard this news by LeaperKim and has decided to make a Commander-S.2 16.5" 126.5 4.5p 50eE 2201WwHh, max speed "faster than the Veteran-rat wheel". estimate batch 1 a day earlier than this + squishy legally trademarked power pads. They ask that you charge outside Edited February 7, 2023 by BKW 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiMark Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Given that my Sherman S has plenty enough speed and plenty enough power and great range, I have to wonder if there is really any need for 126V. But I'll be keeping an eye on developments of this wheel. Who knows, maybe I'll sell my V12HT and buy the mini-Sherman. 2,200Wh is more than the 1,750Wh that the V12HT has, so that is nice. So, what is this little sucker gonna weigh? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meepmeepmayer Posted February 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, KiwiMark said: Given that my Sherman S has plenty enough speed and plenty enough power and great range, I have to wonder if there is really any need for 126V. In theory, they could keep the top speed the same but give you more torque with the increased voltage. That plus the smaller tire diameter would give an immensely oomph-y wheel. Of course they will never compromise speed But they could. Edited February 8, 2023 by meepmeepmayer 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: In theory, they could keep the top speed the same but give you more torque with the increased voltage. That plus the smaller tire diameter would give an immensely oomph-y wheel. Of course they will never compromise speed But they could. By going to 126V, perhaps they can keep the same motor and put on a 16" rim, to yield more thrust (perceived torque) and still have a high top speed. I think the combination of a 16" wheel and 126-volt should be enough for the torque and speed junkies. This could be great for off-road and fast urban commuting. Right now, Begode doesn't have a 134.4-volt wheel in 16". With this announcement, we should be hearing soon about a Begode 16" wheel with 134V. Come to think of it, Inmotion should also put out a 126V, 16" wheel. Edited February 8, 2023 by techyiam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frolic0415 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 A 126v 16" wheel is gonna be wild, all these smaller new wheels are exciting! Glad to see it's not all about the massive 20-24" wheels anymore. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 9 hours ago, techyiam said: With this announcement, we should be hearing soon about a Begode 16" wheel with 134V. It's funny because it's true 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, meepmeepmayer said: It's funny because it's true This should make a good racing wheel, perhaps dethroning the Master. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drunkard Posted February 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2023 Love the idea of small, high performance wheel with proper suspension I don't get why design it to have crazy high top speed. I rather have unlimited torque for ripping through the woods and hills.. There are already larger, more stable wheels with high top speed for all the speed demons out there. 2 things that I'm dying to know. What is the weight and what is the design/shape! Damn it I need pictures of all upcoming 16" suspension wheels! 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGiroquoi Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 1:05 PM, Drunkard said: What is the weight and what is the design/shape! I wouldn't be surprised that begode would remove the lights and battery packs of their next wheels. Why not, if you can just carry them in your hands and a light on your forehead.. cutting the production cost even more. That would make a good use of their extra long cables 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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