Popular Post Cerbera Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) Leatt 5.5 Body Protector, £239 (special offer, normally £299) from DirtbikeExpress.co.uk. I have worn a compression suit for the last year, and had initially bought a fairly cheap one by SixSixOne whose retaining straps and stitching were beginning to fail en-masse, so when the Master arrived I decided I need an upper body armour upgrade. That armour also had problems keeping pads in the right places - it was all very free-flow and a bit random where stuff ended up. I already had Leatt 5.5 Dual Axis knee / shin guards, their GPX boots and one of their wrist braces, do thought I'd give this a go next and complete 'the set'. Construction and Quality There is no doubt this is a very well made item, like all Leatt stuff. The main stretch material (closed with a high quality, covered side zip) is aerated all over, pleasing to look at and touch in a sort of shiny-space-age-material way, and is more robust than it looks. I am not worried about stitching coming undone as was the case with the 661 compression suit. Each area of padding has an ultra-hard plastic outer, and impact foam layer behind that, and various layers of padding foams under that, which make this very comfortable to wear, and you feel very secure wearing it, particularly around the waist area with the triple belt system which cover and reinforce ribs and kidneys. So we get shoulders, chest / clavicle, stomach, elbow and lower arm protection and the back is covered and reinforced from neck to just above the tailbone. My old armour extended way below the base of the spine offering some peace of mind about falling off backwards, but this armour does NOT extend that far down the spine and stops just below the small of your back, for which we gain a little more freedom of movement. Unlike previous armour, this one has excellent kidney and rib support, and the front and back armour and the neck area is designed to dock with their neck braces, which I don't think I need so far. The arm sections are unzippable and removable. I won't be removing mine, as you also lose the elbow and lower arm padding by doing so ! Sizing and Fit Leatt have gone for a height-based sizing method (available in M, L, XL) meaning they recommend choosing your size based on height and (secondarily) weight, rather than traditional chest or waist dimensions. Consequently I tested this, and despite being 55 Kg and normally needing the 'small' version of every item of apparel I have ever tried, here I went with the L size, based on my height, as they recommend. They were correct, and this suit does indeed fit me in all aspects except one - they are expecting people who are 5 ft 10 to have much bigger wrists and forearms than I do, so the material is slightly loose here, and the elastic straps there won't go tight enough without a bit of custom shortening. In practice it doesn't matter at all due to various other wristbands and wrist guards pinning it all in place. In service... I have not crashed in this armour yet, so will pop back to update this review when I have, but I have taken it out on at least 3 rides now, which is enough to form an initial opinion of how it performs when not under crash circumstances ! First off, it is quite heavy - you are going to notice that you are wearing it, and it goes a rather long way to making you feel like a reinforced tank of a rider. Parts of you are held quite rigidly (mainly the Core) and fit becomes looser and less tight as we move down the arms. The shoulder pads do stay in place a LOT better than the previous suit did, and don't rely on feeble elastic straps to keep them located correctly - they are actually sewn into the fabric. That fabric is generously cut, and extends to top thigh level for easy tuck-ins if needed. It is a little tricky to put on initially, so adds at least 5 mins to your session prep time while you fasten and adjust it all. However it remains quite cool in the ride, and there is good airflow. Having said that, with a layer of thin winter thermals under it, it did also keep me warm enough to not need a coat in a mid-November afternoon (13 degrees C), so it does have some thermal value too. So it is comfortable to wear in the main, although you do notice its weight if you have to do a lot of walking with your wheel, and that walk will be noticeably more of a workout in it than without it ! I actually got back quite exhausted today after a relatively short 4 km ride, but one with a lot of walking, which is what did it. I also think the tightness of it around my chest and waist may have shallowed my breathing to some degree resulting in occasional breathlessness after extended periods of wheel trolleying around town... I like it, and other people seem to universally appreciate the look, and predictably it looks equally good if you have the white or black variants of their other armour. There's a certain look and feeling of 'storm-trooper' about it, especially if you have their knee braces and boots that I don't entirely dislike Downsides ? Apart from the weight of it in use, there is not much to criticise about this suit. Perhaps only that is not clear how we wash it - you certainly won't be throwing it in a washing machine any time soon. I'm sure the manual will tell me if I would only look Needless to say I can see this getting a little bit whiffy if you wear it next to your sweating skin for protracted periods, so I would plan to wear an under-layer suit with long arms so you can avoid washing it very often. I must also ask ' will my regular winter coat fit over this?', and the answer is yes, but with the caveat of course that my jacket was bought to fit me NOT wearing a juggernaut armour-set, so it's a little tight, and breathing is made another fraction more difficult when wearing it over the top. So the advice here is buy an outer jacket 2 sizes bigger than you need. And I think you may well need an outer jacket over this, certainly in harsher, wetter, colder climes. Although the elastic material that holds it all together is strong, and well made, that is definitely going to rip in a crash unless it is covered with something a bit more substantial. Summary If you need a one-stop maximum protection solution for your upper body you could do a lot worse than this. It's moderately priced and unlike other items in this series (wrist guards) it feels like very good value for money - you are getting a lot of protection (arguably the MOST protection, better even that MC jackets typically provide) for not that much cash, relatively speaking. It also feels incredibly secure and well-fitting in use, and I am confident that it will allow me to walk away from most crashes that could otherwise lay me low, even from big, powerful and high-pedalled wheels at higher speeds. The only area where I now lack protection is the hips and pelvis. So, unless it subsequently lets me down in the next fall, I would recommend this whole-heartedly so far and think buying this for road-proximate and trail riding is probably a good idea if your wheel is hefty enough that you feel you need this level of protection. Their GPX boots provide a frankly stunning level of crush and twist protection for lower legs, ankles and feet, and this upper body suit feels equally secure and reliable, and like it will save me a lot of pain in the inevitable falls, especially around the rib area, which is where its cheaper competitors tend to leave out protection, or do less of it. Of course it adds to the bulkiness a reasonable amount, but I consider that a small price to pay, because bruised ribs hurt every time you breathe ! Edited November 13, 2022 by Cerbera Retitled to avoid confusion with Body protector 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPONIT Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Thanks for this review! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 7:48 PM, Cerbera said: I have not crashed in this armour yet, so will pop back to update this review when I have haha, i know what u mean, but such optimism. thanks so much for the review. great job. i like it. i'll be looking for a sale too. i'm about 185 today and 6' tall. popeye arms sorta. ranch work. think x-large would fit me best? seriously, this will be for my off ranch rides which hopefully will be rare, or just for practice, but i like the look, and i don't want humans to think ima dick, but i'd rather not chit chat with the neighbors if they see me. i'm almost ugly enough to be scary, but i need a helmet, thinking something like this with the leatt protection stuff. https://i.etsystatic.com/11638753/r/il/a6821f/2224074997/il_1588xN.2224074997_n8yb.jpg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, novazeus said: i don't want humans to think ima dick With a TSG Pass, this armour, enough arm accoutrements to reasonably audition for Alita: Battle Angel, and hardcore MX boots, there is no doubt I look like some sort of robocop / iron-man style future cyborg, but I am prepared to accept that roughly a third of people I pass will either find me hilarious, or will assume I am having some sort of mid-life crisis The remaining 2/3rds seem to think it's quite cool, and I get a lot of 'nuff respect' style comments, and a reasonable amount of 'hushed awe' from those guys to make me feel I'm gettin' away with it ! And the ones that are laughing will do so less when they see I can get up, take a bow and walk away unhurt from any spectacular crash I am unlucky enough to have in front of them ! Edited December 15, 2022 by Cerbera 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cerbera said: With a TSG Pass, this armour, and hardcore MX boots there is no doubt I look like some sort of robocop / iron-man style future cyborg, but I am prepared to accept that roughly a third of people I pass will either find me hilarious, or will assume I am having some sort of mid-life crisis The remaining 2/3rds seem to think it's quite cool, and I get a lot of 'nuff respect' style comments, and a reasonable amount of 'hushed awe' from those guys to make me feel I'm gettin' away with it ! And the ones that are laughing will do so less when they see I can get up, take a bow and walk away unhurt from any spectacular crash I am unlucky enough to have in front of them ! i don't think ur scaring anybody and who cares, u only get one and injuries get better but never completely go away. youtube sb sued for monetizing all these reckless activities, many much more dangerous than what we do, and humans die daily trying to get more views. i wish i could afford that predator helmet but my arai corsair v jolly roger will have to do. it's heavy but i know if my head hits something at speed, it's designed to slow the impact of my brain hitting my skull. my harley motorcycle jacket has elbow and shoulder pads, and it's free. do u think in hot tampa in the summer, i could wear it without heat stroke. it gets so hot here, naked is the only thing that works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 Well, it is full of holes so you should be alright - airflow is decent. But hey don't trust me - I live in the UK where we don't have heat, except for that 2 weeks of the year which rolls around to show us what we are missing; you wanna ask Zen Lee - he's always twatting his wheel round the desert in this full kit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 59 minutes ago, novazeus said: i don't think ur scaring anybody and who cares Actually, that's not entirely true ! One girl briefly screamed as she came round a corner and nearly bumped into me when she looked up from her phone, and a sweet little old lady who didn't hear my bell on a cycle path had to have a small sit down after I wheeled past her the other day ! Fortunately I noticed, and sat with her until she was fine, and it was just the surprise that had done it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 nowadays if ur not wearing a diaper on ur face, that's considered assault with a deadly sneeze. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, novazeus said: heat stroke Maybe try an ice vest. If needed, use zip lock bags, fill with water, freeze. If they melt during the ride, can empty water, and refill with ice from a soda fountain from McDonalds etc... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Paul A said: Maybe try an ice vest. good idea. i know from my motorcycle days, helmets get hot, that's where all ur heat is, and i picked this arai for that reason. but that was all 70 plus mph because i live next to an interchange and i considered the interstate was the safest place to ride. the arai did great with air flow and aerodynamics, but i won't be on the interstate with my wheels hitting 70 without some major re-engineering. looking at this leatt 4.0 mtb full face on sale at cambria bike. i want to be in a habit of wearing a helmet like i did riding street motorcycles. comfortable and lightweight, maybe not as good as the arai, but not as hot. doesn't matter what u have if ur not wearing it. i wanna be in a habit of wearing protection always. i can't ride all the way to my gate naked, i mean i could, but neighbors, u know the karens might complain, or worse, wanna meet me, so i might as well protective clothing. i wear these dickies duck insulated coveralls, that probably could handle my low speed crashes out here, it's off ranch with those concrete curbs and metal gatings. not as soft as asphalt. i used to inline skate 20 miles a night in running shorts, but i wasn't concerned about my skates cutting out, but i did lose a rail that put me down at speed, a wobble, haha, no injury, but no face plant. i mean just screwing around in my pasture and falling at walking speed, my right thumb got stretched a bit and hurt for weeks. as i ride, i'm looking at the pavement deciding if this wheel cut out this second, would i get hurt badly. my first trip to vail was 2012, and i think snow skiing is nuts. i don't know how northerners do it with their hills and snow and ice. walking is perilous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, novazeus said: helmets get hot Might not matter if whatever helmet worn is hot, if wearing an ice vest. Ice vest will cool the blood, which then circulates throughout the body/head anyway. Bit like the car radiator, cooling water, that then flows. Ice packs located near the kidneys might be a good location. High volume of blood passes through the kidneys quickly. Just maybe have some foam/sponge cut to size, to prevent direct contact between ice and skin. Not near chest/heart, might be hazardous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 If you are doing the ice vest thing, maybe get a size bigger Body armour than you would ordinarily - there isn't a lot of room in there, ESPECIALLY around kidneys / waist area... next to ribs or across chest would be where there is most space (in my case at least). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Slightly larger jacket allows room for extra insulation in winter as well. Tabloid size newspapers are excellent for wind break and insulation. Can vary thickness easily, discard if needed during ride, obtain cheaply during ride. Tour de France riders used newspapers for the mountain downhill. Klim Airbag vests, AI tech deployment, no tethers, might be worth considering, especially if 90kph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 i watched this video of a guy describing a crash of another participant in a group ride that wasn't wearing a helmet on some bike path where some looney govt worker thought putting huge boulders next to the path was clever. good for the local hospital's business. i learned riding motorcycles, that the govt purposely tried to kill us, and they are doing a pretty good job of it. btw, @Dufwhere he lives, esp in the summertime, is the perfect place for euc's. flat and the snowbirds go home. plus naples is just cooler than tampa because of the gulf breezes. that's why the rich Christians all move there. beautiful place. but i still wouldn't ride on the shoulder the way duf does because these idiots are texting while they drive. ur not safe in a car. a few years back this nice young guy came to tampa and wanted me to ride with him on courtney campbell causeway. i told him i don't leave Bob and he needed to be real careful. he got run over that night. not terrible i don't think. i'm gonna try to get around on the network of concrete sidewalks, but these damn baby strollers take up the whole 4'! i like the idea of a coverall with the pads sewned in. not perfect, but easy on better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) i wanna get this i think along with some other leatt stuff. if u spend $500+ u get free shipping. but idk about duty taxes into the usa. anybody else from america order from these folks? i figure i have to put on clothes to ride to my gate, might as well put on protective clothes. https://www.motocard.com/en/protections/leatt-65_body_protector_2021_graphene.aspx Edited January 5, 2023 by novazeus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem604 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, novazeus said: i wanna get this i think along with some other leatt stuff. if u spend $500+ u get free shipping. but idk about duty taxes into the usa. anybody else from america order from these folks? i figure i have to put on clothes to ride to my gate, might as well put on protective clothes. https://www.motocard.com/en/protections/leatt-65_body_protector_2021_graphene.aspx I bought the Leatt 6.5 but not the one with the mesh like in your link. I like it but haven't worn it yet but it should be good protection for when I get my Sherman S. https://fortnine.ca/en/leatt-6-5-pro-chest-protector Edited January 5, 2023 by Clem604 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, novazeus said: i wanna get this The Leatt is $295 USD. Could get a custom made to measure, cowhide leather, motorcycle suit, $252 USD plus $47 USD shipping. Various designs, prices, one/two piece from other sellers. Wear an ice vest/battery heated vest, underneath if required. https://www.ebay.com/itm/384794781486?hash=item59978e672e:g:TPwAAOSwR8hiOv9H&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8JXUJwW6Dn3uLtqov95IYuF2%2BvWCJI3sgMwmQfuSBJopQkOShD5I1SZ1fJN3CyTl74gUHgdQ355eGlDhUcM14EKd9hNqIaR%2Bfg4vl5ho0P%2F78aeoSvWEhhIF4Sggq5FgGs%2FceJk34Zw32T1PZ2bnkjVy6JbGqzW1c8reYtXhhFlz62svV%2BE%2Fn14uO%2Bdqx1j16S%2B35nwly7OvvchxsD6l%2F2d4WRXMXUbSRF2VZhdVidY7%2BDw9bX%2BJWFsoHP%2BT0pf%2BoAdsKv3xwRd6OoK2Uu6m3YHE4xjqul4XqIdI9WgzfbVThVPe2hYG7p1QRMunOUoAhA%3D%3D|tkp%3ABFBMrI_p-q9h#shpCntId 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 here's what i've discovered here lately. i don't want my upper half connected to my lower half clothing or protective gear. it binds me when i need to twist the wheel. plus leather here with me taking cannabis orally(it's very peppery so uheat up and dehydrate, btw, that is the most dangerous thing physically about extract, dehydration) i can't hardly drink enough water. and i can't go 55 to cool down my leathers. i loved dainese stuff btw. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 i wasted all day with fedex and van's getting my shoes. it's like humans don't know where big macs come from. i hope fedex starves to death. worse company on the planet. i told them, hello, just copy bezos, he's been doing deliveries less than fedex and he does it much better. but i have lots of different shoes to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 after my credit card cools down a bit, i want to order this stuff from motocard if i don't have to pay duty or some other bullshit govt hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novazeus Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 oh yeah, the dual axis knee guards. there's a cheap pair on amazon, $70, but xxl. over jeans would they work, or are they figuring ur not riding naked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, novazeus said: i wasted all day with fedex and van's getting my shoes. it's like humans don't know where big macs come from. Yeah I had that for 3 days in a row when they had my Grizzla pads. Hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, novazeus said: over jeans would they work Yes, I wear mine over jeans - no issues there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cerbera Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) That's an interesting video, but he's not wearing Leatt 5.5 kit here as far as I can see... that looks like a rather inferior / cheaper set, that hasn't held the pads where they need to remain - around his joints. However it makes a valuable point nonetheless about why we might need additional layers under and ideally over the armour as well to further prevent migration of those pads and to stop the fragile connecting material being the first thing that contacts the road. Of course if it is very hot where you ride I can totally understand why you wouldn't do multiple layers - it's pretty grim riding round in a multi-layered sweat box for any length of time in sweltering heat, but really any type of coat worn over that stuff probably would have saved his armour a bit better... Edited January 6, 2023 by Cerbera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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