Sherman-S 3600wh: 100V, 20", suspension, 97lb

[Paul A]

Inserted two pairs of gel insoles previously, and they worked well.

Might need to replace them, as foot fatigue is occurring again.

Was hoping the advent of suspension wheels would have eliminated foot fatigue.

[MrMonoWheel]

I have just realized that the currency on erides is not euros it's some pound sterling thing I've never heard of, so the CNC pedals are actually the same price as the nylonove. Looks like I'll be sticking with the stock pedals after all 😂

Edited December 25, 2022 by MrMonoWheel

[Rawnei]

3 hours ago, Clem604 said:

This product may be good for giving the headlight a cutoff and not blinding oncoming traffic/pedestrians. As a bonus it gives your Sherman S angry eyes 👀

https://hulaj.market/en/veteran-sherman-s/298-lamp-cover-bad-eyes-for-veteran-sherman-s.html

Things like that don't work, oncoming traffic still stares directly into the led.

[Clem604]

8 hours ago, Rawnei said:

Things like that don't work, oncoming traffic still stares directly into the led.

You're probably right but I'll still give it a shot because it's cheap. At the very least I'll have an angry looking Sherman 😠

Edited December 25, 2022 by Clem604

[Paul A]

Crashed my New Veteran Sherman S - Two Problems

Jon Purcell

348 subscribers

Dec 24, 2022

 

The Veteran Sherman S has a dangerous design in the foot plates.

The studs aren’t nearly as effective as they could be due to the raised rim around the perimeter.

Additionally my riding boots need an improved tread.

This isn’t such an issue unless under hard braking.

Which I felt the need to do here and caused the slip.

Also the S is a heavy wheel and needs more oomph when braking.

There maybe a DIY solution (add grip tape?) but I was always planning to get aftermarket Nylonove foot plates when available.

 

 

 

[BKW]

20 hours ago, MrMonoWheel said:

Yep I think I am going to order them. For what I am getting I can stomach the $200, I'd much prefer these over the nylonove for $300. I actually expected the prices to be reverse. 

 

Oh hell yeah good for him. But for $270 plus tax im gonna have to go through e rides, its almost $100 cheaper.

Yeah, 300 for some pedals? NO THANKS. I'll go for the cheaper options when they come available

Edited December 25, 2022 by BKW

[Funky]

Then again - pedals are something you buy once and use forever..

 

I bought my pedals for 220Euro, same day i bought my wheel. Because i knew grip-tape pedals suck, sand/dirt stuck to them and they are always dirty. And without cleaning they lose grip. But honeycomb pedals are clean, all dirt/sand fall true even snow.. And grip is much better. For me it was a no brainer to get. Yeah 200-300 price is high - i agree.. But what you gonna do? They won't be cheaper than 200 anytime soon. Pedal price have been 200-300 for years. I wish they were 100.  

[BKW]

1 hour ago, Funky said:

Then again - pedals are something you buy once and use forever..

 

I bought my pedals for 220Euro, same day i bought my wheel. Because i knew grip-tape pedals suck, sand/dirt stuck to them and they are always dirty. And without cleaning they lose grip. But honeycomb pedals are clean, all dirt/sand fall true even snow.. And grip is much better. For me it was a no brainer to get. Yeah 200-300 price is high - i agree.. But what you gonna do? They won't be cheaper than 200 anytime soon. Pedal price have been 200-300 for years. I wish they were 100.  

Sadly, I look at my latest purchase, which is a BD set of pedals for my Sherman, and these altogether ended up around 200 dollars. BDs are the cheaper versions I think as well. At least begode has their pedal game right it seems nowadays so you don't have to purchase aftermarket...

[Funky]

12 minutes ago, BKW said:

Sadly, I look at my latest purchase, which is a BD set of pedals for my Sherman, and these altogether ended up around 200 dollars. BDs are the cheaper versions I think as well. At least begode has their pedal game right it seems nowadays so you don't have to purchase aftermarket...

BD  

Oh forgot to mention. My pedals also came with "L" hangers - which lifted my whole wheel case upwards by ~20mm. Also increased pedal clearance from ground by ~20mm. Can install bigger tires and pedals are higher. Win-Win.

Edited December 26, 2022 by Funky

[BKW]

40 minutes ago, Funky said:

BD 

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803869816741.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.2d04f19ch9mp0k&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

[MrMonoWheel]

[Paul A]

Things I Hate and LOVE about the Sherman S - Veteran EUC Features Review

Go George Go!!

3.53K subscribers

Dec 25, 2022

 

 

[InfiniteWheelie]

Personally I think the Nylonove pedals are amazing. The size, grip, feel, adjustability etc. Nothing compares in my opinion. I was blown away by how good they are. Expensive but worth it for me.

Edited December 26, 2022 by InfiniteWheelie

[Freeforester]

1 hour ago, InfiniteWheelie said:

Personally I think the Nylonove pedals are amazing. The size, grip, feel, adjustability etc. Nothing compares in my opinion. I was blown away by how good they are. Expensive but worth it for me.

This^^^  - but anyone not so happy with the raised lip on the stock ‘S’ pedals and sufficiently exercised about it could simply take a file or Dremel or go to a milling machine and set to the protruding raised lip and remove it to the depth where the spikes come into more prominence/active grip provision.

The ‘complaint’ by the unfortunate rider who slid off the back of his wheel I took more as a timely reminder that heavier wheels ought to be afforded greater respect.     Leaperkim did not supply his sneakers, nor did they give him a pass at EUC riding school, these aspects were down to his own possible exuberance (quite understandable) beyond his realisation of the consequences of riding a heavier wheel at speed in an environment where one may be required to execute an emergency type of deceleration (a surprisingly high proportion of the time) owing to events outwith the rider’s control - we should thank him for his timely reminder, and urge anyone making the jump from a relatively lightweight wheel to one of the new heavyweights to really take the time to become accustomed to controlling the behemoth, which, for lighter weight riders using the stock, unmodified pedals may be more than a handful. 
 

If this was going to prove to be an ongoing ‘first batch design issue’ (remember though, the various manufacturers only build them, they don’t teach us how to ride them, and never have), then perhaps Leaperkim may themselves eventually arrange that the pedals come without the offending material, as I imagine it’s easier to modify the production by removal of excess or undesired material than to add same, all other things being equal, a modification of the moulding is pretty much all that would be required.     You can be sure however that specialist aftermarket pedal producers such as Nylonove will have this grippiness aspect down as a fundamental design requirement, which is their sin qua non after all, just ask anyone who owns their products.
 

More generally, the tyre is the contact of wheel and terra firma - and is often subject to change out by discerning owners - whilst the pedals provide the contact/interface between rider and wheel - why would anyone knowingly risk their new investment ‘out there’ if they suspected that their contact to the wheel was less than desired?    The content provider himself admitted that he intends changing the pedals out for better gripping (and lighter weight) ones - he was taking a chance whilst awaiting the arrival of this improvement to his contact/control, and whilst this may not have changed by sufficiently much a reduction of the overall weight of the wheel to permit him to come to a more controlled halt, it would have probably held him in place whilst events unfolded.    
 

When we step on our wheels, we expect to stay on them, but we do in turn have to play our part in this bargain, or the devil may take you!

Edited December 26, 2022 by Freeforester

[BKW]

23 minutes ago, Freeforester said:

This^^^  - but anyone not so happy with the raised lip on the stock ‘S’ pedals and sufficiently exercised about it could simply take a file or Dremel or go to a milling machine and set to the protruding raised lip and remove it to the depth where the spikes come into more prominence/active grip provision.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. Just use a grinder and take off the protruding outer lips section and you should have effective spikes. Even more, you can drill small holes on the bottom to make space for water/mud/snow to fall through.

*EDIT:

Mehh, on second thought after looking at the video above with the pedals... that's a lot of outer lip you'll need to get rid of... and holes on the bottom after taking off the outer lips may make the plates pretty weak... probably better off going with an aftermarket pedal

You're probably better off drilling some screws/studs from the underside of the pedal so the pointy parts act as grips

*EDIT #2:

Those stock pedals just suck, period. They need to be replaced

Edited December 26, 2022 by BKW

[Paul A]

DIY modifications may severely weaken/damage pedals.

[Steve Evans]

if the pedals can be improved by minor/cheap changes, should we not look to Leaperkim to make those changes in the next batch?

it just seems the wheel could be made safer at little or no additional cost to the manufacturer.

 

Edited December 26, 2022 by Steve Evans

[Paradox]

3 hours ago, Steve Evans said:

if the pedals can be improved by minor/cheap changes, should we not look to Leaperkim to make those changes in the next batch?

Sherman S Pro.  AKA Sherman S batch 4

[MrMonoWheel]

Christmas has come early (even though its the day after christmas), my Sherman has arrived in Los Angeles!

Edited December 27, 2022 by MrMonoWheel

[Mango]

Hopefully, mine is on that same container ship, but I haven't had any shipping updates.

For pedals, I might thread these in for more grip.

[MrMonoWheel]

35 minutes ago, Mango said:

Hopefully, mine is on that same container ship, but I haven't had any shipping updates.

For pedals, I might thread these in for more grip.

How would you make them protrude farther than the stock spikes/lip on the pedal? Id do the same if it works

[Funky]

20 minutes ago, MrMonoWheel said:

How would you make them protrude farther than the stock spikes/lip on the pedal? Id do the same if it works

Buy longer ones.. 5mm sticking out should be long enough. 

Edited December 27, 2022 by Funky

[UPONIT]

17 hours ago, MrMonoWheel said:

Christmas has come early (even though its the day after christmas), my Sherman has arrived in Los Angeles!

Tick tock tick tock

Vicarious excitement!

[BKW]

20 minutes ago, MrMonoWheel said:

How would you make them protrude farther than the stock spikes/lip on the pedal? Id do the same if it works

Drill through the bottom of plate and screw them in that way?

[wstuart]

I got to ride one of these today.  Felt like riding a cloud, on top of a pillow, on top of a pile of fluffy kittens..... absolute game changer.