goodsignal Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Does anyone have experience or know of any threads on packing an EUC for air travel? Is it even possible on commercial airlines? There's no doubt that we would have to remove the battery pack and take that as carry on, while likely packing the wheel in a suitcase. Wondering if a battery pack of this size is even allowed as carry-on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 I don't think we are allowed battery packs of that magnitude on a plane full stop, carry-on or otherwise. This, from a similar thread on Reddit quoting the FAA set limits. 49 CFR 175.10(a)(18)(ii) For a lithium ion battery, the Watt-hour rating must not exceed 100 Wh. With the approval of the operator, portable electronic devices may contain lithium ion batteries exceeding 100 Wh, but not exceeding 160 Wh and no more than two individually protected lithium ion batteries each exceeding 100 Wh, but not exceeding 160 Wh, may be carried per person as spare batteries in carry-on baggage. Not many wheels under those sorts of limits these days and certainly not an S18. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodsignal Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 Figured. Had to ask the community just in case there was a way. Thanks for the FAA quote. Here's the general Info link and detailed link, should anyone else want to see the rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Commercial - Hard no Private (Service) - Maybe for the right price Private (Owned) - Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothamMike Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) I was talking to a private pilot who is also a fireman. He will on bring Li_ions devices he can toss out a plane window. He told me it takes more water to put out a Tesla fire than to put out a house fire. I doubt you will find a private pilot. Learn to love sea and ground shipping. Edited August 3, 2022 by GothamMike stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360rumors Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 This is one reason I’ve been hoping for a wheel with a 160wh battery. So that it can be brought on a plane. Meanwhile, Onewheel pint can supposedly be brought on a plane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothamMike Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 EUCs need replaceable batteries. Ship an extra set ahead by ground. You could take your "empty" EUC on a plane. You'd have to 'dead wheel" the EUC to the Uber/Taxi/transit. Luggage and a dead EUC wheel? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodsignal Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 11 hours ago, 360rumors said: This is one reason I’ve been hoping for a wheel with a 160wh battery. So that it can be brought on a plane. Meanwhile, Onewheel pint can supposedly be brought on a plane. This here. Nice idea. And with airline approval, you could double that capacity by taking two of those. FAA quote below: Quote With airline approval, passengers may also carry up to two spare larger lithium ion batteries (101–160 Wh) or Lithium metal batteries But also... Quote Quantity limits: None for most batteries — but batteries must be for use by the passenger. So as @GothamMike suggests, an EUC that has sockets for removable battery clusters could make this feasible. Imagine a wheel with four or even six 95-Wh removable battery clusters. We could take all of those by carry-on without issue. Anyway, one can wish. Right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bupalos Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 It shouldn't really be too hard, it's just one of those things where the market size probably isn't going to be quite sufficient to incentivize development. The market would be both for travel and people who want flexible capacity, like you can chuck extra batts in a backpack. Although I wonder if something could be done by one of the existing outdoor power equipment manufacturers like EGO or Kobalt... just add an adapter to existing euc designs. I think Kobalt is 84v so already a bunch of wheels. But of course center of gravity might be weird? Also removable batts would mean multiple packs potentially at different states of charge and thus voltages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothamMike Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 80% of my travel has been business related. I would not have time to ride on a Business trip. Not really worth it. It would be fun to tour an interesting European city on an EUC as a tourist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360rumors Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 hours ago, GothamMike said: 80% of my travel has been business related. I would not have time to ride on a Business trip. Not really worth it. It would be fun to tour an interesting European city on an EUC as a tourist. Uhuh but let’s say at CES in Las Vegas the traffic is absolutely dreadful, it would let me get around without having to wait for Uber. I could probably get to the convention center from the airport (3.2 miles). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 A big innovation in EUCs would be EUCs without internal battery where you carry your battery in your backpack that is coupled to your EUC with a cable. Advantages: - since battery is the most aged part, it can be easily replaced - authorised in airplanes, hire a battery in your destination (like Gogoro in Taiwan) - reduces EUC weight: imagine a 2500W EUC of 10kg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360rumors Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 41 minutes ago, marc said: A big innovation in EUCs would be EUCs without internal battery where you carry your battery in your backpack that is coupled to your EUC with a cable. Advantages: - since battery is the most aged part, it can be easily replaced - authorised in airplanes, hire a battery in your destination (like Gogoro in Taiwan) - reduces EUC weight: imagine a 2500W EUC of 10kg! I think it would be great to have batteries that can be swapped. But I would be nervous about a backpack battery because the cable is a weak point that can easily be damaged. And moving the battery to a backpack might reduce the weight of a wheel but not the total weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanew Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 The worst part about removable batteries is accidentally installing packs of different charge levels. These can easily be damaged by quickly discharging one while charging the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josiah Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Buy a new wheel have it shipped to where your going. Then ship it home. Half the shipping cost and you get a new wheel. Or ship it twice. Can’t ship it expedited (same issue as checking on a plane). So ground it is. Or if your traveling in the us try renting. https://friendwitha.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiiijojjo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Just a few weeks ago I had to transport my Gotwat RS on a flight. 1. Get a big enough suitcase to put the EUC into. 2. Take the batteries out and ship them by mail 3. Take the EUC (now empty of batteries) into the suitcase and check it in at the airport without issue. 4. receive batteries upon arrival + put them back in. 5. ride Edited January 24 by xiiijojjo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 8/3/2022 at 2:18 PM, GothamMike said: I was talking to a private pilot who is also a fireman. He will on bring Li_ions devices he can toss out a plane window. He told me it takes more water to put out a Tesla fire than to put out a house fire. I doubt you will find a private pilot. Learn to love sea and ground shipping. Just need to find a private pilot who also rides and who's favorite brand is Begode, hell yeah let's go! On 8/8/2022 at 3:20 PM, marc said: A big innovation in EUCs would be EUCs without internal battery where you carry your battery in your backpack that is coupled to your EUC with a cable. Advantages: - since battery is the most aged part, it can be easily replaced - authorised in airplanes, hire a battery in your destination (like Gogoro in Taiwan) - reduces EUC weight: imagine a 2500W EUC of 10kg! Solid state batteries will be the salvation we need. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/25/2023 at 12:42 AM, xiiijojjo said: Just a few weeks ago I had to transport my Gotwat RS on a flight. 1. Get a big enough suitcase to put the EUC into. 2. Take the batteries out and ship them by mail 3. Take the EUC (now empty of batteries) into the suitcase and check it in at the airport without issue. 4. receive batteries upon arrival + put them back in. 5. ride Which airline and which continent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiiijojjo Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) On 1/28/2023 at 12:45 PM, Mono said: Which airline and which continent? Any airline in the Schengen area is no problem as long as there is no more than 100wh of lithium batteries in the suitcase the total weight of the suitcase is under the limit of what your ticket includes (20-30kg typically) so certain models would be impossible without disassembling the wheel and putting it into 2 separate suitcases. Anything much heavier than the Gotway RS would require more than a 25kg suitcase limit from my experience. I also deflated the wheel first in case that could have posed an issue, and turned the wheel on after removing the batteries to discharge it completely. Edited Wednesday at 04:24 AM by xiiijojjo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiMark Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I think that the answer is pretty simple, buy more EUCs. Ground ship one of those many EUCs you own to the place you will be flying to. When you land you go pick up the EUC from where you shipped it to. Voila! At the end of your trip you ship it home, when you get home you ride your other EUCs until the one you used on your trip arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josiah Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 @KiwiMark it’s a win whim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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