Luke Skywalker Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) Hi, I’m new to this hobby and picking out my first wheel. This is an incredible resource, especially the safety gear! I pre ordered the King Song KS-S22 quite a while ago from EUCO and just found out that I won’t be getting one from the first batch. Sounds like it’ll be at least 7+ weeks until mine ships. I really don’t feel like waiting that long so I’m thinking of ordering a different wheel. Perhaps something with similar or superior capabilities (in which case I’d cancel the S22 order), or maybe a wheel with totally different characteristics (like high speed cruising), in which case I’ll have two wheels. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Price isn’t a factor Thanks again! p.s. I’m about 200 lbs Edited June 17, 2022 by Luke Skywalker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tawpie Posted June 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Luke Skywalker said: totally different characteristics (like high speed cruising) The S22 tops out at about 43 mph, you can go closer to 55 mph on a Master, but those are backordered as well. Neither has especially good range though, so 'cruising' at high speed won't be a very long trip. For going fast and far you're looking at EX20S (limited stock), Sherman Max (probably backordered), Sherman (have to buy used), or Monster Pro. Because "go far" and especially "go far+fast" requires enormous batteries, these are all very large very heavy beasties. Not ideal for learning on, but possible. You'll want an extra helping of stubborn for breakfast. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 Hey Tawpie! I don’t know if you remember but you gave me some great advice back in October. Well… By the time I got around to ordering one, I really fell in love with the idea of the S22s full suspension and 43.5 mph. But if I’d know how long it would take I probably would’ve gone with the 16X like you said and learned on it. As far as range goes, I doubt I’ll be taking trips longer than 30 to 40 miles and I imagine most of the time it’ll be less. The Begode Master looks amazing. Just watched a video of it and it looks like it has suspension like the S22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 Hmm… looks like the Master is a fragile wheel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tawpie Posted June 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: Master is a fragile wheel. Very fragile. A little crash will tear the rubber rain cap (top rubbery stuff), probably break the tail light and might bend the kickstand. A cartwheel is liable to crack the cast housing for the electronics. And the shock bottoms pretty easily partially because of the design of the suspension and largely because of the cheap shock 'pump' supplied with the wheel. But if you like to customize... a high dollar fox shock (with custom machined replacement suspension link), a good suspension pump, a Clark "over shell", a good flashlight, a cheap bike rear light, something to straighten out the kickstand and you have one heckofa fun, fast, crazy torque wheel! 2 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: I don’t know if you remember but you gave me some great advice back in October. oh yeah! Now I remember. Sometimes the best wheel is the wheel you actually have, right? I do love my 16X, and I still don't have my S22 (pretty sure it's not even on the boat yet, but maybe it'll hit the water next week? This would be a great time for a longshore strike...). Starting to really like the S18 too, but sadly it's going to hit the block shortly. But it was always an interim stop gap until S22 arrived. Some suspension is better than none! Edited June 17, 2022 by Tawpie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoos Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tawpie said: But if you like to customize... EucMarket (the Russian tuning shop) already offers protective polycarbonate side walls (they haven't made an english version of the product page yet). Be sure to check the other photos of the walls - the transparent version looks way better imo. However, with this terrible war I am not sure how feasible it is to order internationally at the moment. 9 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: I really don’t feel like waiting that long so I’m thinking of ordering a different wheel. If money is no object than go ahead! If it is then you could buy a used wheel like the 16X (or 18XL, RS, Tesla, Nik, S18, V11 etc) just to learn on and later sell once the S22 arrives. It might get expensive learning on a heavy suspension wheel if you happen to drop it in an unfortunate manner and bend something. Edited June 17, 2022 by yoos minor addition 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 @Luke SkywalkerI took the liberty to put this into its own thread. Wasn't really in the right place in the EUC comparison table topic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstuart Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 I would get something small cheap and used that would be easy to learn on. I think the inmotion V8f and V10f are food for this. Them when the s22 arrives sell the used wheel. You'll make nearly all your money back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) S22 sucks. (Sure you will love it for first months - while everything works as it should..) After time suspension will wear it self out. (Have you seen it's slider mechanism? - so bad.) Also that lift handle, kill switch combo - i hope you like pinched fingers. The saddle is very small - you won't be available to ride seated. (At least not comfortable.) My vote also goes to EX20S it's one of the better built suspension wheels out there. Sadly it has very, very bad water protection.. (Why can't they add rubber seals, silicone.) As i need water protection in my eyes EX20S is garbage. In built quality it beats most euc's. Don't even look at "Master" one drop - battery casing will break. It's made out of "thin" plastic. EX20S even has metal casings.. Sherman Max is quit good if you ride smooth ground. (Asphalt, streets, pavement.) Anything "off-road" like gravel, etc.. You need suspension. When i saw S22 sliders - it automatically become a hot ass garbage in my eyes. Sorry - not sorry. Enjoy repairing that shit in 3-5 months. (More ride - faster repair.) If you don't clean sand/dirt out of those channels - it will wear it self out even faster. Don't even think adding "grease" in there (They come shipped with grease in there....) - it will only let dirt/sand stick better. Such a complete failure of a euc from KingSong. I personally hate Begody (The company it self.) - Yet i said EX20S.. I know when i see something "good". - Yet none water protection makes it meh. (If you don't mind adding a lot of silicone it will be amazing.) Edited June 27, 2022 by Funky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ..... Posted June 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) Just get an 18xl. Youll love it and then youll buy another of something newer. After a few months, youll be thankful you have one that you can depend on, while you are chasing parts around to fix your new one. I quit worrying about my wheels a long time ago. Simply because the one's I have kept, work. No more grass is greener for me, been there, done that. 27mph on a wheel is fine for me. I used to blister around at 40mph on my (now sold) sherman. It was a great wheel, but I'm not all that keen on trying to act like a motorcycle on a device that has one wheel and is made in china. Edited June 30, 2022 by ShanesPlanet 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 Hey my S22 just got here! Man, the box is way heavier than I anticipated but I still think it'll be easier to lug it into the back of my Prius compared with my electric fat tire bike Now I just have to order my safety gear and figure out how to ride this thing. I've ridden Segways quite a bit but I doubt that this is the same thing at all. I plan on spending the first few weeks (or longer if needed...) riding around on soft grass in a park next to my house. Once I feel fully confident then I can take it out at 20 to 25 mph on the road Time to buy my gear... Man things have been so busy that I'd planned on doing that sooner but I thought the S22 wouldn't be here for a while 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Luke Skywalker said: Hey my S22 just got here! Man, the box is way heavier than I anticipated but I still think it'll be easier to lug it into the back of my Prius compared with my electric fat tire bike Now I just have to order my safety gear and figure out how to ride this thing. I've ridden Segways quite a bit but I doubt that this is the same thing at all. I plan on spending the first few weeks (or longer if needed...) riding around on soft grass in a park next to my house. Once I feel fully confident then I can take it out at 20 to 25 mph on the road Time to buy my gear... Man things have been so busy that I'd planned on doing that sooner but I thought the S22 wouldn't be here for a while I would check those suspension "sliders" and remove all the grease - if they are greased.. Or enjoy fixing the suspension pretty soon. Just a friendly tip. You may ask why.. > As we know those sliders are "open" to sand/dirt, what not.. Over time that grease will become sandpaper and ruin the plastic/rubber sliders. Over time suspension will start to feel clunky "sticky", it won't compress as intended. Guess why - because the grease have become a sand mixture. Those rubber/plastic sliders are sanded off. (When i saw those sliders, i facepalmed so hard.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 @Luke Skywalker I'm so excited for you, its the best feeling. You are going to have so much fun. I loved the learning curve and early days so much, Enjoy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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