How many EUCs do you really need?

[360rumors]

I see many users with multiple EUCs. Why is that? Im curious what experienced users say about how many wheels a typical user really needs (let’s say budget is not an issue)?

 If a user has only one EUC, what would they be giving up or what would they need to compromise on? 

I have two wheels because the first one I got — inmotion v8 — was a bit underpowered. Now that I have Tesla v2, it seems to be fine for groceries, commuting and light off-roading (bumpy grass).  I seldom use the inmotion v8 and have been trying to sell it. 

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final answer.... 4.   A tiny mten for leisure. A mid sized cruiser like an 18xl. A big road eater like a sherman and a mediocre suspension wheel so you feel special....

Im looking at slimming my collection down to just 2 wheels. An 18XL and an mten. Im losing the ability to go faster than 27mph, but gaining odds of survival. I have a motorcycle, so i wont miss the faster wheels all that much. My knees are old so I wont be fooling myself into trying to offroad when my moto would be a better choice. Im also losing the ability to pretend Im safe to operate along with cars on public roads with speed limits of 35mph+. Im also losing the worry of having lithium fire bombs laying around, simply waiting to get old and useless. Im also losing, having a wheel around that hurts my back to lift, as it weighs well over HALF my body weight. I'm also losing cool points for being one of those people with more money than sense...

Edited May 23, 2022 by ShanesPlanet

[GoGeorgeGo]

2 wheels, 3 if your using one as compact Traveller.

You just need one main wheel and one backup wheel so if your main has an issue your not out of commission for weeks waiting for parts and repairs. I rock and ex20s and a v11 (although in actuality i just sold the v11 and am flying without a backup until something new comes out that strikes my fancy)

But depending on your use a small one you can toss in a car really easily and just zip to the convenience store on the corner could be nice to. My ex20s is inconvenient to take out just for a zip to tbe corner store, wish ha had a little mcm5 or an v8f

[Funky]

Get 1 wheel that can do all.. Maybe 2 if you ride with cars - 1(compact) for lower speeds, 1(monster) for high speeds.

For my case 18xl does it all for me. I don't ride with cars.. 40kph is plenty on side walks, where people are.. I only ride on asphalt, packed down dirt/gravel roads. The weight also is at the sweet spot ~25kg. And range is plenty..

If police saw us riding with cars, I can imagine a fine or something.. As we don't really have that many euc riders here. Same time no laws what so ever on euc.. Only electric scooters, which also can't ride with cars. And we really don't have bike paths, only in big city's - also rarely.

Edited May 23, 2022 by Funky

[360rumors]

1 hour ago, ShanesPlanet said:

Im also losing the worry of having lithium fire bombs laying around,

the lithium thing is definitely an issue for me.  I’m worried that keeping wheels that I rarely use is just an unnecessary fire hazard and I definitely don’t want to have a collection until we come to a point where the batteries are as safe as an iPhone. 

[Funky]

2 minutes ago, 360rumors said:

the lithium thing is definitely an issue for me.  I’m worried that keeping wheels that I rarely use is just an unnecessary fire hazard and I definitely don’t want to have a collection until we come to a point where the batteries are as safe as an iPhone. 

So true. Can't wait when solid state batteries will become a thing in euc's.. Then i will buy new euc. Maybe sell my 18xl, doh i doubt at that year someone will want 18xl. 

I also hope till that year, we will have "smart bms" all bells and whistles. At the moment euc get bigger, same time more crappy. Hope it will change.

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13 minutes ago, 360rumors said:

the lithium thing is definitely an issue for me.  I’m worried that keeping wheels that I rarely use is just an unnecessary fire hazard and I definitely don’t want to have a collection until we come to a point where the batteries are as safe as an iPhone. 

Agreed. It also makes me feel like a total a**hole, to have ANY toys laying around, not being used. Im the opposite of a collector. If something expensive sits around unused, i feel its wasteful and I really do hate myself when it happens(hence me selling my sherman and extra paramotor). Wasting money and earth's resources, arent something I'm a fan of. Use it up, sure, but don't waste it. Having unused wheels laying around is for the rich people that have 2+ houses, extra cars, luxury Rv's and all that other BS. If I can afford to have $5k laying around not being used, I could probably afford to donate the money to someone who NEEDS it. $5k can buy a lot of food or medicine.  In all honesty, I could easily be down to my 18xl and still be thankful I'm so spoiled as to even afford the one..

Edited May 23, 2022 by ShanesPlanet

[360rumors]

56 minutes ago, GoGeorgeGo said:

2 wheels, 3 if your using one as compact Traveller.

What I wish is that airlines would allow us to transport a small EUC like MTen. If they did, I would definitely get a small one just for that. But I suppose that will never happen. 

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3 minutes ago, 360rumors said:

What I wish is that airlines would allow us to transport a small EUC like MTen. If they did, I would definitely get a small one just for that. But I suppose that will never happen. 

Get your own plane? I dunno if I would want to be on a commercial airline, knowing there's euc's on board. They dont issue parachutes with the tickets either. I guess if the planes let me smoke during the flight, they could also carry euc's. I may as well get some reward for the risk...

Of course, I charge and store MY euc's by the chemical storage area. Its a house tho, and neighbors are far enough away. Insurance company has told me that fire is covered, even if its from blatant stupidity....

Edited May 23, 2022 by ShanesPlanet

[Funky]

2 minutes ago, ShanesPlanet said:

Agreed. It also makes me feel like a total a**hole, to have ANY toys laying around, not being used. Im the opposite of a collector. If something expensive sits around unused, i feel its wasteful and I really do hate myself when it happens. Wasting money and earth's resources, arent something I'm a fan of. Use it up, sure, but don't waste it. Seeeing unused wheels laying around is for the rich. If I can afford to have $5k laying around not being used, I could probably afford to donate the money to someone who NEEDS it. $5k can buy a lot of food or medicine....

Yup, for 5K i could pay off my everyday bills for 2 years. (Aka i don't socialite, rarely leave house. So most money that i earn stays in my safe. +I don't like spending..) And here i have my 18xl sitting in my room corner.. Because i don't feel like riding.

[winterwheel]

Absolute minimum is 2, one for daily riding and a backup for when the main wheel is in the shop for whatever reason.

[360rumors]

21 minutes ago, winterwheel said:

Absolute minimum is 2, one for daily riding and a backup for when the main wheel is in the shop for whatever reason.

You’re the second one to mention the need to have one as a backup. Is it common for EUCs to be sent to a shop? Does that happen predictably, like once a year, or when the tire needs to be replaced?

[kiitick]

I have 4 like Shayne. Tiny indoor mten. S18 with molicel for trails and short low speed rides. Sherman and Abrams for daily commute.  The Abrams is down due to being hit by a truck, and now waiting for the firmware update to help mitigate the cut out problem. Glad I still had my Sherman at that point.

[gon2fast]

1 hour ago, ShanesPlanet said:

Having unused wheels laying around is for the rich people that have 2+ houses, extra cars, luxury Rv's and all that other BS.

Where do I pick up my second house, RV and "other BS"?

I hope the "other BS" includes a electric motorcycle, a gallon of caviar and some cash or bitcoin!!! 

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10 minutes ago, 360rumors said:

You’re the second one to mention the need to have one as a backup. Is it common for EUCs to be sent to a shop? Does that happen predictably, like once a year, or when the tire needs to be replaced?

I had a spare 18L for backup for a year. It got sold as my original still works. I think having a backup is a good plan, but I wouldnt get a duplicate. I fix/maintain my own wheels, so having a single backup would suffice. I'm going to be down to 3 wheels I hope. 1 18xl and 2 mtens. I have 2 mtens, as its simply worth the $400 I could sell it for, to keep it. Its dedicated to letting other people use it and fall off. Since my 18xl was purchased used and my mtens were less than $500, I llke to think I've not too much invested.

[Funky]

24 minutes ago, 360rumors said:

You’re the second one to mention the need to have one as a backup. Is it common for EUCs to be sent to a shop? Does that happen predictably, like once a year, or when the tire needs to be replaced?

Those people can't live without euc. If my euc breaks, i will use regular bike - that i used before i got euc. (I even have euc shop in next city, if i wanted, i could simply go in and buy new euc.. If need be.) Tire changes are easy, if you got tools. First thing i did, i changed my euc tire after measly ~150km.

(I even opened my euc at first day - the fan was rubbing, making annoying sound, easy fix.. Was not worth driving 25km to exchange it.)

Doh having 2 motors would be great.. 1 summer tire, 1 winter tire motor. You don't need to change tires each season. Simply change motors.  Also having spare parts like mobo, etc.. Can save you time.

Edited May 23, 2022 by Funky

[LanghamP]

Most riders seem to buy quite a large number of wheels before eventually settling on just two wheels; a wheel that can be carried by another vehicle and another wheel that's far too heavy for that. There are some enthusiasts who buy the latest and greatest wheels, and these almost always veer towards the "big huge wheel very expensive" territory. Although, "very expensive" in wheel culture is pretty cheap compared to most other motorized vehicles.

[Markuss]

21 minutes ago, Funky said:

Those people can't live without euc. If my euc breaks, i will use regular bike - that i used before i got euc. (I even have euc shop in next city, if i wanted, i could simply go in and buy new euc.. If need be.) Tire changes are easy, if you got tools. First thing i did, i changed my euc tire after measly ~150km.

(I even opened my euc at first day - the fan was rubbing, making annoying sound, easy fix.. Was not worth driving 25km to exchange it.)

Doh having 2 motors would be great.. 1 summer tire, 1 winter tire motor. You don't need to change tires each season. Simply change motors.  Also having spare parts like mobo, etc.. Can save you time.

Winter tires? Haven`t heard those on a EUC. Are they buyable in the Rigas shop?

[techyiam]

4 hours ago, 360rumors said:

You’re the second one to mention the need to have one as a backup. Is it common for EUCs to be sent to a shop? Does that happen predictably, like once a year, or when the tire needs to be replaced?

For me,  I need a backup too, even though I have electric kick scooters and an e-bike. The reason is simply I prefer to ride an euc over other PEV's. 

Edited May 24, 2022 by techyiam

[Mango]

Having two EUCs is the bare minimum. One that is lightweight and small. The other long-range and powerful.

I’d class them by tire size, then battery capacity, then speed.

Three would be the sweet spot, if the third wheel is your “fun, sport” wheel. I’d lump HT and suspension wheels in this category.

Four wheels is a bit much, as you’ll find maintaining this many wheels to become a bit daunting and time-consuming.

Owning six wheels means, if you ride everyday all-year long, then each wheel gets at most 60 rides per year. Not worth keeping a wheel around if it’s used 2 months out of the year.

Yeah, so 2 wheels is a must. 3 would be ideal.

I had 7 wheels at one point. I’m down to 2, with number 3 given much consideration.

[Tawpie]

As the owner of an 'everyday all purpose' wheel, and a 'goofing around the neighborhood' wheel and an 'off-road' wheel (with a very soft and difficult to obtain tire), I'm in the 3-is-enough camp as well. When the S22 arrives I may think about downsizing to 2 wheels… but I can't bear the thought of kicking my learner out of the wheelhouse.

Edited May 23, 2022 by Tawpie

[Begodecrashtestdummy]

I bought my first a month ago and already want another so I can have them both charged that way once I run one wheel down I can hop on another and go ride while I charge the one I just ran down 🤣🤣

[Whalesmash]

I'd say two is a good number since one is none and two is one. TLDR when one breaks or has a problem, at least you have a spare. It's also nice to be able to have a wheel you can loan out should someone need one to borrow. 

[360rumors]

1 hour ago, Whalesmash said:

I'd say two is a good number since one is none and two is one. TLDR when one breaks or has a problem, at least you have a spare.

Methinks I shouldn't have bought an EUC.  Instead I should have looked for EUC riding friends (who will inevitably have extra wheels)...

[winterwheel]

8 hours ago, 360rumors said:

You’re the second one to mention the need to have one as a backup. Is it common for EUCs to be sent to a shop? Does that happen predictably, like once a year, or when the tire needs to be replaced?

A fair number of us use wheels for commuting. When putting 10K kms/yr on a wheel a flat now and then isn't too surprising. We are finding that tires are good for about 5K before the tread starts to look a little worn, depending on the tire and ride style of course. 

Beyond that most of the maintenance issues come when these same commuter wheels go to work after hours as single-track mountain bike trail devices.