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I’ve done some scouring of the forums here and from what I could find it looks like about a penny a km or 2.5 cents a mile. Obviously that’s an estimate based on riding style, hills, temperature that kind of thing, but does that sound appropriately right? 

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I actually did some measurements at the weekend and my V8 seems to be around half a penny per mile (Uk sterling and our electricity rate is currently around 22-25p per kWh).  This was based upon a 17 mile ride and then charging back up to the same level after the ride and monitoring the amount used.  It wasn't totally scientific as I was just messing around with it, but I will do more testing in the future to find out a more accurate figure.

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Riding around hard on my S18 in traffic + hills (50% higher energy consumption than other S18 riders per euc.world) I get 23.8 Wh/km.

That's something like 1/4 of 1 US cent per km.

 

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I toodle around at an average 13 Wh/km generally speaking, as high as 0.028 kWh/km if I'm pushing things but the average is 13. Our power (heavily hydro and wind, so fairly inexpensive) is 0.10USD/kWh. That arithmetic works out to… essentially free.

EUCWorld's math says today's just over 80 km there-and-back commute required an average of roughly 16 Wh/km (I was going faster than typical).

.016 kWh/km * .10 USD per kWh  = (shifting decimal places to get cents) 0.16 cents/km ($0.004 dollars per mile). The commute cost 12.8 cents.

 

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10 hours ago, Tawpie said:

I toodle around at an average 13 Wh/km generally speaking, as high as 0.028 kWh/km if I'm pushing things but the average is 13. Our power (heavily hydro and wind, so fairly inexpensive) is 0.10USD/kWh. That arithmetic works out to… essentially free.

EUCWorld's math says today's just over 80 km there-and-back commute required an average of roughly 16 Wh/km (I was going faster than typical).

.016 kWh/km * .10 USD per kWh  = (shifting decimal places to get cents) 0.16 cents/km ($0.004 dollars per mile). The commute cost 12.8 cents.

 

Buying and maintaining an EUC on a cost per mile isn't that much less than a car (say you buy a $2000 wheel and put 2000 miles on it...that's a dollar per mile), and most riders seem to get several EUCs. However, it may be because car ownership is grossly undervalued to the owner and to society.

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Purely electricity for my 2700wh Nikola would be about $0.27 to charge dead to full (including charger losses), and I estimate I can go 50-60 miles so thats about 1/2 a penny per mile. That said, I'm allowed to charge at work also so that goes down a bit. I've put nearly 400 miles on it so far without any problems, tire still looks good and charges to full voltage. 

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My 18xl from 50% to 100% cost around ~0.25 euro. My electricity bill is around 0.18 per kWh.

The "0.25" price was taken from wall WATT meter. That's how much i used while charging +balancing.

For ~0.25 euro i can ride ~50km range.

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Here in BC (Canada) I pay about CDN$0.14/KWh on our second tier (the more expensive tier). I'Il generally get about 130km on a charge (Sherman) and it takes 2500Wh to charge fully, so that's a little better than 20Wh/km. 20 Wh/km is .02KWh/km, mulitply that by $0.14/KWh and the cost is $0.0028/km (or 0.28 cents/km, roughly 0.33 US cents/mile). Putting it another way, about 4km per CDN penny, or 3 miles per US penny.

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19 hours ago, Mantraguy said:

Here in BC (Canada) I pay about CDN$0.14/KWh on our second tier (the more expensive tier). I'Il generally get about 130km on a charge (Sherman) and it takes 2500Wh to charge fully, so that's a little better than 20Wh/km. 20 Wh/km is .02KWh/km, mulitply that by $0.14/KWh and the cost is $0.0028/km (or 0.28 cents/km, roughly 0.33 US cents/mile). Putting it another way, about 4km per CDN penny, or 3 miles per US penny.

Holy moly, 20wh/km? I'm getting about 34wh/km or 56wh/mile on my nikola+ ar, what's your average speed? 

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On 5/14/2022 at 1:21 PM, FlyingWigs said:

Holy moly, 20wh/km? I'm getting about 34wh/km or 56wh/mile on my nikola+ ar, what's your average speed? 

Probably less than yours lol! On a long ride I generally cruise around at about 35-40km/h (22-25mph). I'll ride faster on short rides but I like to do full-day rides up to about 160km (100 miles +/-) so I need to conserve battery a bit on those days. I'm also a bit of a lightweight; around 150lbs fully geared up.

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The most accurate way to tell how much electricity it takes to recharge your wheel is by buying one of these wattage meters[1] and configure the price per kWh that you pay to your electricity company. Then discharge the wheel as much as possible. Then plug everything together and wait for the results :)

 

I did it and it costs me about 48¢ to fully charge my MSX 84V and I can get about 50Km of range on a good day with moderate riding.

[1]: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DPJ3RGB

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