jrhz06 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Just thinking out loud and wondering what other people would recommend or think about it. For what it’s worth, I ended up getting an 80/90 K66. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, jrhz06 said: Just thinking out loud and wondering what other people would recommend or think about it. For what it’s worth, I ended up getting an 80/90 K66. You don’t have it in an S22 yet, do you? Would be great to have your opinion on it when you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhz06 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Delivery of the S22 is supposed to be July 7th so hopefully I can let you know my thoughts later next week. I’m trying the stock tire first then will change out to the k66. I used an 80/80 Angel and tr1 on my s18 so hoping the k66 is somewhere between those two tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Posted July 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 11:52 AM, litewave said: Thanks, @Brendan "nog3" Halliday and @E-RIDERZ! I saw this vid when it first was released but skipped to the end initially. I watched it again in its entirety. I think the summary is equivocating and glossed over the major differences covered in the body of the review (for me, at least): the Pirelli Angel is far more nimble and can negotiate tight turns much tighter; the Pirelli Angel seems to eliminate the feeling of top-heaviness that exists with the stock tire; the Pirelli Angel performs well off-road in mild to moderate terrain, with no discernible difference. Given the decent price (still) of the 80/80 Pirelli Angel (front) I think this is a must-have upgrade for those of us who ride on pavement most of the time. I’ve been using the Pirelli Angel on my S-18 now we’ll over a 1000 miles. It’s incredible on the ice and snow especially for the price! Plus it has an “S” rating. Which makes it a real tire. It should be great for my S-22 when I eventually get it. I ordered it over a year ago, paid for it 8 months ago! RevRides has kept in contact through this whole ordeal. This will be my second purchase from them. Really impressed with their team. Very knowledgeable and fastest shipping ever. I ordered an Mten3 from them and got it the next day. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Got my S-22!!! Wow fun stuff! Quite an upgrade from my S-18! And yup the tire on it now is sluggish and is unbalanced. I’m bumping down the road. I’ll see what I can do with it while I’m waiting for my new Pirelli Angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just to chime in to this discussion, I know I am a minority with my opinion but I love the stock tire, running it at 40PSI and it's behaving like a champ. I'm used to the Kenda 262 and the stock tire behaves similarly but actually better IMO, no issues turning and it's super stable at 40PSI. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 19 hours ago, Rawnei said: Just to chime in to this discussion, I know I am a minority with my opinion but I love the stock tire, running it at 40PSI and it's behaving like a champ. I'm used to the Kenda 262 and the stock tire behaves similarly but actually better IMO, no issues turning and it's super stable at 40PSI. Well Let’s just say I’m not disappointed in the S-22! To be fair I haven’t tried inflating the tire to 40#. I’ll do that and see if I get a better ride with it. Right out of the box the spring and shock rebound work great. So far the only things I will change are the tire and the pads. For me the pads are set too far back and not very soft. They dig into my caves a little. I’m going to have to pull the boomerang off to get them far enough forward. I’m thinking of moving it up and forward. Then using double sided tape to fasten them. That means cutting the plastic support or making a new one. I feel like a poor imitation of Kuji Rolls leaning forward trying to get going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Mac said: Well Let’s just say I’m not disappointed in the S-22! To be fair I haven’t tried inflating the tire to 40#. I’ll do that and see if I get a better ride with it. Right out of the box the spring and shock rebound work great. So far the only things I will change are the tire and the pads. For me the pads are set too far back and not very soft. They dig into my caves a little. I’m going to have to pull the boomerang off to get them far enough forward. I’m thinking of moving it up and forward. Then using double sided tape to fasten them. That means cutting the plastic support or making a new one. I feel like a poor imitation of Kuji Rolls leaning forward trying to get going. Good on you, the boomerang is more or less pointless, it's just int he way provides no useful functionality and I can't imagine those tiny screws holding it would sustain time. For me the stock pads was mainly too wide, adding more width to an already wide wheel but ontop of that was difficult to adjust correctly but some people seem to find a sweet spot with them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffs Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Mac said: So far the only things I will change are the tire and the pads. i agree with you. the pads are hard and i haven't found a good position for them, even after removing the boomerang. i put velcro on them so i can at least experiment before looking for something better. i don't mind the tire, except when doing tight turns. this is my first knobby so it's taking some time to get used to. the street tire on my KS18 felt comfortable at a very extreme angle. it never felt like it would "roll over" on me. the stock knobby on the KS22 is good until i get to a certain angle, and then it feels like it's going to tip all the way over. i don't know if it would eventually "catch" or not. the wheel being somewhat top-heavy is probably contributing to this feeling. i'll have to work with it for a few weeks before deciding if a street tire would be more comfortable for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Rawnei said: Good on you, the boomerang is more or less pointless, it's just int he way provides no useful functionality and I can't imagine those tiny screws holding it would sustain time. For me the stock pads was mainly too wide, adding more width to an already wide wheel but ontop of that was difficult to adjust correctly but some people seem to find a sweet spot with them! We need to ask @Jack ex-KS whether the boomerang was a marketing decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 51 minutes ago, buffs said: i don't mind the tire, except when doing tight turns. this is my first knobby so it's taking some time to get used to. the street tire on my KS18 felt comfortable at a very extreme angle. it never felt like it would "roll over" on me. the stock knobby on the KS22 is good until i get to a certain angle, and then it feels like it's going to tip all the way over. i don't know if it would eventually "catch" or not. the wheel being somewhat top-heavy is probably contributing to this feeling. i'll have to work with it for a few weeks before deciding if a street tire would be more comfortable for me. My tip is to not give up, give the stock tire a chance, it feels very nimble for me, but as with any new tire if you are not used to the behavior it takes some time getting used to and it can be a vastly different experience from tire to tire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, techyiam said: We need to ask @Jack ex-KS whether the boomerang was a marketing decision. I'll give you three guesses. And the first two don't count. (although, it was either marketing or industrial design—I don't know how separate those departments are so 'technically' it might have been a design decision. Back in the day when I did hardware, my marketeer was very pointed in their displeasure with some 'rib' features in the plastics... my designer never had an answer other than 'they're intentional' and we shipped a million units. Won an IDSA gold design award too) Edited August 1, 2022 by Tawpie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tawpie said: Back in the day when I did hardware, my marketeer was very pointed in their displeasure with some 'rib' features in the plastics... my designer never had an answer other than 'they're intentional' Wait a minute, what is an EE doing with ribs, and plastic? Or, you just overheard? Getting back on topic, Jack was the marketing director for the S20/22 at Kingsong. But he was also a rider. My guess is that he is more of a "pro function" type of guy. Perhaps the compromise was that the boomerang must be simple to remove? Edited August 1, 2022 by techyiam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, techyiam said: Wait a minute, what is an EE doing with ribs, and plastic? I was PM on that one... I had to adjudicate, and overheard more than I let on—partly because I insisted my marketeer sit in the cube next to me rather than with their compatriots on a different floor. I did this so I could at least hear the lies they were telling prospective customers first hand. It was an effective tactic, even if it wasn't universally appreciated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 7/31/2022 at 12:23 PM, Rawnei said: Just to chime in to this discussion, I know I am a minority with my opinion but I love the stock tire, running it at 40PSI and it's behaving like a champ. I'm used to the Kenda 262 and the stock tire behaves similarly but actually better IMO, no issues turning and it's super stable at 40PSI. Rawnei I see what you mean, just tried using 40# in the tire, sure wasn’t sluggish any longer it was like riding on a marble pretty squirrely way too lively. Every gust of wind was blowing me around! So I’ve lowered the pressure a little and tomorrow I’ll see what she feels like. Thanks for the advice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MexicanBatman Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) My friend fitted a Michelin City Pro 90/90-14 im yet to ride it but I understand it’s amazing, smooth and turns great and going by my experience on the same tyre on a different wheel I’m sure I’ll agree Edited August 17, 2022 by Trevor Phillips 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhz06 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 7/2/2022 at 11:03 AM, UniVehje said: You don’t have it in an S22 yet, do you? Would be great to have your opinion on it when you do. Finally put the k66 on. Don’t like it. I tried various pressures and it didn’t change the feeling of riding on a knife edge. I found it always wanted to be on edge and very unstable in a straight line. I much preferred the Pirelli Angel which was on my s18 but for now I’ll stick to the stock tire for a while before trying the Pirelli on it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 After 650km on the stock tire I must re itterate that for me it's a great tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 On 8/18/2022 at 3:42 PM, jrhz06 said: Finally put the k66 on. Don’t like it. I tried various pressures and it didn’t change the feeling of riding on a knife edge. I found it always wanted to be on edge and very unstable in a straight line. I much preferred the Pirelli Angel which was on my s18 but for now I’ll stick to the stock tire for a while before trying the Pirelli on it. Like most tires, the K66 will change in behaviour at some point around 100-200 miles in. That said, I don't think it's a tire for everyone, and the change didn't make it into a different tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanturion Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I hated the K66 at first. It was noticeably slower to accelerate and felt quite unstable in a straight line over the stock tire. One issue was I didn't get the tire centered on the rim right on the first mount so there was some unnatural lean that was super evident at speed too. Like @mrelwood said though, it took those 200 miles to break in and get used to the different behavior, only then I could appreciate it over stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litewave Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) On 8/17/2022 at 11:25 AM, Trevor Phillips said: My friend fitted a Michelin City Pro 90/90-14 im yet to ride it but I understand it’s amazing, smooth and turns great and going by my experience on the same tyre on a different wheel I’m sure I’ll agree Looks great. Hopefully someone can test the Pirelli Angel 80/80-14 vs the Michelin City Pro II at some point. Does anyone have first-hand experience with or knowledge of the City Pro vs. City Pro II ? The Michelin tires are a little a harder to get and more expensive than the Pirelli in the US, and the first version is still available here. Thanks Edited August 21, 2022 by litewave corrected Pirelli tire size from 80/90 to 80/80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhz06 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I put on the Pirelli Angel 80/80. Smooth and turns much better/tighter than stock. I didn’t mind the stock tire but I prefer the Pirelli. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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