rcgldr Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 To clarify, I'm not asking to test ride an 18XL, I'm only interested in transport issues, specifically having to one arm lift it to get it in and out of a hatch back on my car. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) If it helps any, my 18xl is 54lbs. Its much easier to lift than a bag of concrete. The pedals have a good spot and the handle is centered. If the hatch is not taller than your waist, it should be very easy. The only problem you wil have is if you need to dead lift it to shoulder height. This is assuming you are as fit as a lazy skinny 43 year old with hernias. Leaning over to place it down into a boot, could be a little strain on the lower back and mid section. I typically transport my 18xl, on the floor behind the front seat, upright. Edited February 24, 2022 by ShanesPlanet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I don't have an 18XL, but my 16X weighs basically the same and most importantly, the trolly handle (lift point) is basically the same. I use both hands and it goes up and over the bumper and into the trunk just fine. Should you replace the pedals with hex pedals (or Chaput's custom pedals) that have holes your fingers can get through, that gives you an extra lift point that makes into and out of the trunk a breeze. Pro tip: don't bother trying to grab the tire... it doesn't help lifting and has been known to cause you to leave bloody fingerprints on your car, which in turn makes a routine traffic stop more "eventful". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Member might only have one arm.... hence the practical test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Sorry @rcgldr I can't help with your initial request, but I'm curious to hear how you'd describe the operation with your V8F currently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcgldr Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) I have a 2015 Corvette Z06. The passenger seat can't be moved forward enough to put an EUC behind it, and I don't want to risk leaning an EUC on the front of the seat with the tire in the foot well. The hatch back | rear spoiler are a bit over waist high (I'm 6 foot tall), and there's about a 1 foot wide "deck" between the cargo area and the spoiler (or the sides of the hatch back), which requires leaning forwards over the deck to load or unload an EUC. To avoid back strain, I brace one hand on the deck, and use the other arm to lift and move my V8F into or out of the cargo area. I'm 70 years old, but I work out with free weights, and routinely lift 45 lb plates with one arm during workouts, so the 35 lb V8F isn't an issue. The next step up is a V10F, but the claimed weight is 43 lb, and I'm guessing it's more like 45 lbs, which should be OK, but I don't like the external handle versus the trolley handle. The next step up from that would be 16X or 18XL, at around 55 lbs, which could be an issue for transport. Currently I'm riding on private streets with 15 mph speed limit, or on a paved bike trail with mild declines | inclines where there isn't much point in gong over 15 mph either, but with a stronger EUC, there would be more margin to avoid overlean and being able to handle steeper inclines or declines (I weigh about 190 lbs). I set EUC World peak current warning to 20 amps for the V8F. There's some delay in reporting peak current, so some additional margin is needed for the EUC World setting. Edited February 25, 2022 by rcgldr 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, rcgldr said: 2015 Corvette Z06 I get it. Yeah, you'll want to try it in person—the up and over part is going to be the tricky bit. Surely there's someone around there—crash a group ride perhaps? Hit up Marty? Edited February 25, 2022 by Tawpie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Yes you can count 46 lb for real V10F weight. V10F is a nice wheel but I'm not sure it would be a super significant upgrade from the V8F. In a way, it's too close. 18XL is more attractive if you can afford the weight for your use case: offers significant more speed headroom and a whole lot more range (actual capacity of the V10F pack is significantly below 960Wh on mine) different class of wheels although not too distant in riding characteristics. Edited February 25, 2022 by supercurio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 If this is what the trunk looks like..... Maybe better to use a thick blanket/rug to cover the "deck" when loading/unloading the EUC. This might save using one hand to brace onto the deck, to lift completely and clearly over the deck to prevent damage. This will allow use of two hands to lift the EUC, making it easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcgldr Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) My wife took a video of me loading and unloading my V8F. It's not an issue. I have two towels in the cargo area that I wrap around the V8F to protect the carpet in the cargo area. My Corvette is not a convertible, so there's a larger cargo area. The one arm brace is to avoid back strain from holding the V8F while leaned over into the cargo area. https://rcgldr.net/euc/v8flduld.mp4 Edited February 25, 2022 by rcgldr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, rcgldr said: My wife took a video of me loading and unloading my V8F. It's not an issue. I have two towels in the cargo area that I wrap around the V8F to protect the carpet in the cargo area. My Corvette is not a convertible, so there's a larger cargo area. The one arm brace is to avoid back strain from holding the V8F while leaned over into the cargo area. https://rcgldr.net/euc/v8flduld.mp4 Good technique making it looks easy-peasy. You can probably handle more weight that way, but this trunk opening is pretty high, requiring to life the wheel up to where it gets more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFartRides Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Mini fold down davit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcgldr Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 My wife has a 2015 Genesis, which has a normal trunk, so the EUC doesn't have to be lifted as high or as far forwards, and I could use both arms or one in that case. The issue is getting her to swap cars as she doesn't drive the Corvette much, and getting her to let me buy another EUC. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFartRides Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 It is easier to get forgiveness than permission. You didn’t hear that from me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcgldr Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 I forgot to ask how much does an 18XL actually weigh versus the claimed weight of 53 lbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, rcgldr said: I forgot to ask how much does an 18XL actually weigh versus the claimed weight of 53 lbs? On 2/23/2022 at 8:50 PM, ShanesPlanet said: If it helps any, my 18xl is 54lbs.... Edited February 25, 2022 by ShanesPlanet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcgldr Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) On 2/23/2022 at 5:50 PM, ShanesPlanet said: If it helps any, my 18xl is 54lbs. I wasn't sure if a new 18XL would weigh the same as an older one. The early V8Fs were lighter, but they stopped using lightweight metal for the motor covers along with some other changes so the weight went up from 14.8 kg ~=32 lbs to 15.8 kg ~== 34.8 lbs. In spite of this change, the online sites that sell them still list them at 32 lbs. I wasn't sure if a similar thing (increased weight) had happened with the 18XL. Edited February 25, 2022 by rcgldr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) My 18xl is one of the "newest" versions and it's weight originally where 24.5kg (54lbs). Now it's 25.5kg (56lbs) new heavy tire +hextech pedals made it heavier. 16x is also the same weight 24.5kg (54lbs) You can go 16xs or 18l for less "range" (less batteries inside) and they weight ~22kg (~48lbs) 2.5kg difference not much, so not worth my mind.. ks16s v2 is alright wheel for low speed rides.. And it's pretty light. But it can do max 34kph (21.7mph) speed. Edited February 25, 2022 by Funky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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