Ninebot One, KS 14-KS 500W 174kw, KS 14-KS 800W 340KW

[Mikel JT]

Hello Everyone!

I need your expertise. Please help me out choosing between this EUs?  Ive been reading obsessively and consistently but I cant make my mind.. too much factors lol ! Adding to this, it is a lot of money in play and I want to buy a best fit...

Originally I had a low Budget, but after reading a bit, I dont want a EU that catches fire, nor an EU that has unexpected shutdown and make me faceplant at 15km/h... 

So here are my stats and needs for the purchase:  I have a Budget of 900€ max, i weight 85kg and it will be my first EU. I want my EU to go to the office, that is a 8 km round trip with a 5% steady slope. Im not a speed demon, I predict I`ll roll at 10-15kmh. I live in Spain (Madrid) hot summers that will raise my EU motherboard  temperature to around 35ºC or 95+ Farenheit (aprox).

So my selected EU are the following:

1) Ninebot One.

I like the shape, and I read it is confortable. Everybody knows about it. BUT Ive Heard about unexpected shutdowns, firmware problems updates, no front and rear light, no music. Its available for 750€ on Amazon.es and I understand it is a 500W device with a 240 KW battery. Seems quite a balanced unit. I know people that own it are quite/very happy with it. I guess its kind of a safe choice.

2) KingSong KS-14

 I like that it has LED lights on the rear and front, speakers to improve the travel experience, and that  apparently it has seriously adressed all  the unexpected shutdowns issues that we fear so much. 

Model  KS-14B 500W 174KW 

Its cheap,  available on Amazon.es  for 680€, BUT Im afraid the battery is too small. Isnt it? I dont want to buy extra batteries, and I dont need to take the unit into a plane. At first sight, the  KS-14B 500W 174kw seems to be a balanced unit. Do you think that its enought to provide me a proper 10-15 km travel without any  power/battery issues considering my weight?  Or the battery size should be at least, the one mounted on the Ninebot, 240kw? Im not willing to travel on regular basis on low battery...

KS-14C with its 800W and 340kw

I wonder if its worthy to spend +200 €, because even thought the battery is bigger, the engine bigger too, so I wonder if it will really provide me with extra miles.  Do you think that extra power/battery is important? Will I travel those 10-15km  better off in terms of power, reliability, or comfort?. Ive read that peolple that own this model are super happy. But they usually go for larger batteries, (500+) that I cant afford...

So, on my humble budget, making an effort, I could get the KS-14C 800W and 340KW that is available in french sitesand for 899€,.  I´d have to chose from Gyroroues-hop.fr or High-tems.eu. I´ve written to both, and both have the same price, offering shipping to Spain. High-Tems seem a little nicer, and were guaranteeing me that they had the latest versión (v3), and that I would get the EU in 24/48h.

So considering my stats, would you recommend... Ninebot One, (500W 240KW), KingSong KS-14B (500W 174kw) or KingSong KS-14C (800W 340KW)?

Thanks in advance for the feed back.

Mikel

[johrhoj]

I have no experience with the King Song, but these thoughts may help you ...

1) I am 100kg, riding a ninebot one (E+) and never had any problems. I do a daily round-trip of 5 km, twice or thrice per battery charge (twice in colder  conditions). There was a problem with a certain version of the firmware, but i never downloaded it (i was warned by this forum).

2) The great thing about ninebot is that is has a 16" wheel. The bigger the wheel, the less problems on real roads (with bumps). My next wheel will be 18".

3) I use runners lights on my arms in the dark, since the ninebot has no lights. I have no problem with that. About the music ... i just use my ipod, not bothering others with my music.

I hope you will have a great time riding your EU in the future.

[Cloud]

Whichever you choose, dont do 170wh battery. Get the battery twice the capacity you think you need. 174 battery will probably not give you 15 km. 340wh for you in minimum. Ninebot will be a smoother ride as it is 16", but i orefer kingsong for its power and safety.

let me ask you, why dont you go for IPS xima lhotz? Its fast, reliable, 16", and costs $980. There is also other ips models if you dont need the speed above 19kmh. Also ips zero is 14" and is a possibility, and looks good, but probably not as powerful as kingsong, so id go with kingsong for 14".

anyway, if i were you, id get an ips lhotz) due to the 16" smoother ride

[mpelaz]

Hi Mikel, 

I'm in your same situation: same city, same weight, even same name :-o

My favourite at this moment is  KS-14C with its 800W and +500kw due to its powerful battery and motor, that I guess will guarantee peak power most of the time letting the UC to be more stable and safe. 

14" is ideal for me because of its fairly low weight and size, for jumping into the Metro or putting it in a "Car2go Smart car" trunk. 

BUT there are some problematic points: price, and the fact that I cannot take it with me in a plane.

So at the moment I'm waiting for a detachable battery unit with a powerful motor and spare big batteries... 

Let me know if you make up your mind. And we'll see each other at the street!

cheers,

Miguel

[Mikel JT]

 

@johrhoj , thx for your feed back man. Your comment was very helpfull reminding me that the Ninebot is a 16 ". A factor, i didnt take in account!

Im mainly gonna be doing city roads, so I guess the bigger the Wheel the better.  16" is still ok, to carry around and fit under a restaurant table...so it its another plus for the Ninebot!!!. Unfortunately  you ninebot is a e+ that  goes up to almost 1000€ in europe   (ive seen it for 800$ on american Amazon, but they dont ship to Spain...).So Im back reconsidering the original Ninebot One lol! im going back and forth with KS and Ninebot lol. The KS 18 incher is a monster it looks super cool and powerfull but...1300€. I mean.. I paid that for my motorbike...quite an investement. Some are lucky, the UC seem to be cheaper in the USA. Europe is expensive!!!

@Cloud I honestly havent studied the IPS, but as far as I poorly know, they still havent adressed properly the Unexpected shutdown issue. I´ll take a look at the EU you recommend thought, you might have made my choice even harder! lol THX mate

@mpelaz  same city, same weight, even same name ? kind of scary. are you 31 and live in chamberi aswell? lol . Man this choice is fun but complicated. I might go for the Ninebot. But not sure. Keep in touch if you make your mind.!!!

It seems I still have some hours studying YouTube reviews and stuff to make up my mind

 

 

[Cloud]

24 minutes ago, Mikel JT said:

 

@Cloud I honestly havent studied the IPS, but as far as I poorly know, they still havent adressed properly the Unexpected shutdown issue. I´ll take a look at the EU you recommend thought, you might have made my choice even harder! lol THX mate

I havent really heard of IPS shutdowns, especially the lhotz. Yes i think you are better off with a 16". Ninebot E has a 260 battery which may be enough but is borderline not enough! . Save money and go for E plus - they are going down in price because P came out, or go for an IPs 16" wheel. If you are going to be on the street, and only gonna have one wheel,  i wouldnt get a 14" if i were you. Also, not that i should recommend it but have you considered a slightly used wheel? I am sure there are a lot of ninebot e plus owners who are now upgrading to the P. They might be willing to sell their e plus and ship it to you. Good luck

[THA]

Don't even consider 9b1 E, take E+ if You deside to order NBO! Same with174Wh - just forget it. And if You end up to puchase E+, don't You dare to try Lhotz Lhotz tire OD is almost an inch bigger, but more importantly that bigger air space/thickness makes it so much more stable, You just don't need to worry about any small bumps anymore. If You think it's hard to turn, I tell You, it isn't - I can make as tight turns with it as light generic 14", with same ease or even more. And when it tilts back uphill on low batt, just settle to slow down and when You reach flat section or downhill, You can speed up again. Lhotz won't shake or make make sudden cut offs unless You speed up to max on downhill to get up comig to steep uphill (if even then). I have compared C+ (own experience + reviews) + many comments and I think NBO is just a staging post before more advanced wheel.

[Nono]

KS 14-KS 800W 340KW could be perfect...