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Hey. Thx for sharing, super interesting review. When i saw how cheap the NBM I reconsidered buying a UCW. Im still doubting.

Would you say the NBM is more comfortable for medium or longish journeys around the city? ( +4 miles)??

I gues a con for the NBM is that it is less easy to carry around ( eg. Upstairs) than a UC.

Would you give up your NB1 for the NBM???

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Mikel JT said:

Hey. Thx for sharing, super interesting review. When i saw how cheap the NBM I reconsidered buying a UCW. Im still doubting.

Would you say the NBM is more comfortable for medium or longish journeys around the city? ( +4 miles)??

I gues a con for the NBM is that it is less easy to carry around ( eg. Upstairs) than a UC.

Would you give up your NB1 for the NBM???

Cheers!

So to answer this question depends on what you want out of your personal transporter. The NB1 is very fun to ride and if you're looking for something that you will also use a significant amount of time for recreation or off road then I would say definitely get the NB1. If you're mostly looking for something that will be used for serious transportation needs then it's a bit more difficult to answer, they can both get the job done but I'd have to say I give the edge to the NBM based on its newer technology and easier ride.

To answer your question on comfort, others may feel differently but I think the NBM was a good deal more comfortable on a long journey than my NB1. Once a week I make a 10-12 mile round trip on my NB1 and I definitely found it noticeably more comfortable on the NBM than I am used to with my NB1. For shorter trips and even up to 4-5 miles that difference is going to be negligible though and they both do give me a bit of sore feet and thighs no matter what after a long trip. The NBM is definitely less easy to carry around than pushing a NB1 with a trolley handle which is my daily driver but if you get the NBM Pro then you'll get a built in trolley handle which would put them on even footing. Carrying a non-pro NBM by its knee pads is definitely more cumbersome than carrying a NB1 by its pop up handle. The remote control feature of the NBM does not work well enough to just drive it around in front of you instead of pushing it.

If I had to only keep one of the two it would be a tough choice because I take my NB1 riding on dirt trails and I definitely don't think the NBM could keep up but if I could only keep one I would probably choose the NBM because my transporter is first and foremost a mode of daily transportation which is where the NBM excels. That's not to say I wouldn't miss my NB1 quite a bit though. ;)

Another thing to keep in mind if you're debating on which to buy as your first purchase is how much you care about what others think of your ride. There are very few people riding these devices around my city (and most cities) and while I always get very positive responses to the NB1 I have gotten some heckling because of the NBM. People don't like Segways or hoverboards and this is a product that reminds people of both. The NB1 on the other hand is so unique that people don't have their mind made up about them before they even see it.

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Omg i think you just made it harder for me lol i want both!!! .

Would you say the NBM is safer too? I wonder what happens when the device runs out of battery. Tillting? Ive been scared reading about the NB1 unexpected shutdowns...im very concerned about safety. Almost paranoid lol

Btw, thx for the very accurate and detailled review. Thank you very much :)

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4 hours ago, Mikel JT said:

Omg i think you just made it harder for me lol i want both!!! .

Would you say the NBM is safer too? I wonder what happens when the device runs out of battery. Tillting? Ive been scared reading about the NB1 unexpected shutdowns...im very concerned about safety. Almost paranoid lol

Btw, thx for the very accurate and detailled review. Thank you very much :)

I do think that the NBM is safer for the average person, but a skilled rider on an EUC can certainly maneuver as safely as someone riding a NBM. If you're looking at getting your first EUC then there is a significant ramp up of a few days or weeks before you will have the skill to ride it on public sidewalks or streets safely, that ramp is much shorter with a NBM to get an equal level of safe maneuvering ability. Both the NB1 and NBM will limit the top speed to a crawl and tilt the foot platforms back sharply when the battery is very low, it's better to get off and push or carry when it gets to that point so it is just best to avoid it and plan your trips accordingly. Neither offers much in the way of redundant safety features so in my opinion safety gear is a must with these products, that said in my experience a known reliable Ninebot can be trusted not to cut out on you if you pay attention to the high speed warnings and don't try to push the limits.

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So an update on the issue with my Mini's squeaky wheel: I have arranged a return to the eBay seller and I have preordered a Ninebot Mini Pro from my local Segway store after finding out that they are going to be getting them this spring. I'm actually going to end up getting the better version for less money than I spent on the Xiaomi version originally, though I'll probably be waiting a few months. 

If anybody is interested here is a link to the order page on their web store: http://thegarageotr.lightspeedwebstore.com/ninebot-minipro/dp/1000000236

And if that wasn't enough they're even offering preorders on the super cool Segway Robot!: http://thegarageotr.lightspeedwebstore.com/minipro-robot/dp/4101

At the time of this post the Ninebot Mini Pro and Segway Robot are going for $500 and $750 preordered respectively which is crazy awesome pricing. I would expect it to be too good to be true except that this Segway store has a very good reputation in my city so I think they will honor their prices. I don't know what the MSRP will be for the Segway Robot will be but the owner of the store and I have been going back and forth in email and he said the Ninebot Mini Pro will have an MSRP of $1300 so the preorder discount is pretty steep! I am considering preordering a Segway Robot but I get the feeling it will be delayed endlessly and end up being a frustrating purchase because of that so I'll wait and see how they do once they're on the market for real. At these prices though I almost want to throw in a second Mini Pro just to have!

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20 hours ago, Aaron Corsi said:

So an update on the issue with my Mini's squeaky wheel: I have arranged a return to the eBay seller and I have preordered a Ninebot Mini Pro from my local Segway store after finding out that they are going to be getting them this spring. I'm actually going to end up getting the better version for less money than I spent on the Xiaomi version originally, though I'll probably be waiting a few months. 

If anybody is interested here is a link to the order page on their web store: http://thegarageotr.lightspeedwebstore.com/ninebot-minipro/dp/1000000236

And if that wasn't enough they're even offering preorders on the super cool Segway Robot!: http://thegarageotr.lightspeedwebstore.com/minipro-robot/dp/4101

At the time of this post the Ninebot Mini Pro and Segway Robot are going for $500 and $750 preordered respectively which is crazy awesome pricing. I would expect it to be too good to be true except that this Segway store has a very good reputation in my city so I think they will honor their prices. I don't know what the MSRP will be for the Segway Robot will be but the owner of the store and I have been going back and forth in email and he said the Ninebot Mini Pro will have an MSRP of $1300 so the preorder discount is pretty steep! I am considering preordering a Segway Robot but I get the feeling it will be delayed endlessly and end up being a frustrating purchase because of that so I'll wait and see how they do once they're on the market for real. At these prices though I almost want to throw in a second Mini Pro just to have!

That is only a deposit of $500. I did the preorder, called the company, and they informed me they don't have a final cost yet, but it's definitely not $500. I got a refund.

 

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38 minutes ago, adhermes said:

That is only a deposit of $500. I did the preorder, called the company, and they informed me they don't have a final cost yet, but it's definitely not $500. I got a refund.

Good to know, I was mislead by the salesperson who in their email to me said "Right now you can pre-order the Ninebot MiniPro through our webstore and we estimate that they'll be here in the Spring. They're priced at $500. You would be first in line"

I'm going to reach out to them to confirm and possibly get a refund as well because I'm not sure the MiniPro is worth $1300 to me.

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Do you by any chance know how to switch off that annoying beep sound when you reach top speed? Nbm pro here and it pissed me off :)

Pls?

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16 hours ago, Vit said:

Do you by any chance know how to switch off that annoying beep sound when you reach top speed? Nbm pro here and it pissed me off :)

Pls?

It's a safety feature, I don't think there is an option to disable it on any Ninebot. When it starts beeping it's because there is not much extra power available to keep you upright in the event that you hit a bump or a steep hill so you are risking a sudden shutoff that could hurt you. Riding at the beeping or tiltback speed isn't supposed to be comfortable because they are discouraging you from doing it, if you want a faster ride then you might want to get a Ninebot One.

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18 hours ago, Aaron Corsi said:

It's a safety feature, I don't think there is an option to disable it on any Ninebot. When it starts beeping it's because there is not much extra power available to keep you upright in the event that you hit a bump or a steep hill so you are risking a sudden shutoff that could hurt you. Riding at the beeping or tiltback speed isn't supposed to be comfortable because they are discouraging you from doing it, if you want a faster ride then you might want to get a Ninebot One.

Thank you. It makes total sense. I am happy with my nbm pro and learning curve for nbo is a bit frustrating, so I pass. 

It is starting to skew the platform backward when I exceed the speed limit, making it uncomfortable to ride. During my first day I was instinctively trying to overcome that, resulting in legs pain. Now I just try to relax and keep appropriate speed enjoing the sunny Budapest. Still with some occasional beeps though ;) 

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5 hours ago, Vit said:

Thank you. It makes total sense. I am happy with my nbm pro and learning curve for nbo is a bit frustrating, so I pass. 

It is starting to skew the platform backward when I exceed the speed limit, making it uncomfortable to ride. During my first day I was instinctively trying to overcome that, resulting in legs pain. Now I just try to relax and keep appropriate speed enjoing the sunny Budapest. Still with some occasional beeps though ;) 

Awesome, glad you're enjoying it! Seems like you're starting to get a feel for the limits of your device, the sensation of the platform tilting backward that you described is called "tiltback" and every EUC and Segway will do it, it's sort of a gentle warning that you're approaching the limits of your device before you get into the potentially dangerous speeds where it will start beeping at you. It's normal to still get beeps occasionally when riding at appropriate speeds because it's related to the load on the motor more than the actual speed you're traveling, if you're going relatively slow but hit a large bump or start going up a steep incline then you may find that you are pushing the motors to their limits even at a lower speed, that's when you will hear a beep without getting to max speed. None of these devices are built to be speed demons so you'll probably find that you will enjoy them the most when you relax and enjoy the ride as you said.

The NBM Pro is a great device and I think it's currently the best personal transporter for general purpose commuting, enjoy those headlights and tail lights because they aren't a luxury you get built in with the NB1! :) 

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The cheapest for the pro in America is $900, on amazon, and $600 for mini. Still no black models, yet... And it seems that the Asian model you can get 340 wh battery not just 210 wh battery... Some reason they don't like telling you the battery size... 

I emailed the garage but no response back, about the preorder, at least they only ask for 'half' where other dealers here ask for the total cost for 'preorder', or models they don't have in stock...

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Aaron Corsi - Thank you for this review.  

 

I just recently discovered the electric unicycle via youtube which led me to Ninebot then onto the mini [both of which led me to this forum].  I like the idea of the unicycle, but not sure the learning curve is worth the results for me.  I'm really interested in the mini, and as of this last week, I've been trying to determine availability and costs (cheapest US Oklahoma + shipping).  Seems that Amazon no longer lists the mini or the unicycle versions of Ninebot.  I contacted a dealer in California to discuss some of the things about the mini vs mini pro and they were basically clueless.  They did say that Segway was going through a reorganization of models, positioning marketing and prices.  I find that Banggood has the mini listed for around $560, but based on your review not sure what all the differences between the models (I know the specs show different battery and motor power - but not sure how that translates into my potential use).  I'm a bigger than average guy at 6'2 220 lbs and would not want to get a mini only to find that it screams "GET OFF!!".  

 

So I'm posting here to see if there is any further pricing or availability news as well as any other updated info others might want to provide. 

Thanks again for your informative review and responses.

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31 minutes ago, Mitch H said:

Aaron Corsi - Thank you for this review.  

 

I just recently discovered the electric unicycle via youtube which led me to Ninebot then onto the mini [both of which led me to this forum].  I like the idea of the unicycle, but not sure the learning curve is worth the results for me.  I'm really interested in the mini, and as of this last week, I've been trying to determine availability and costs (cheapest US Oklahoma + shipping).  Seems that Amazon no longer lists the mini or the unicycle versions of Ninebot.  I contacted a dealer in California to discuss some of the things about the mini vs mini pro and they were basically clueless.  They did say that Segway was going through a reorganization of models, positioning marketing and prices.  I find that Banggood has the mini listed for around $560, but based on your review not sure what all the differences between the models (I know the specs show different battery and motor power - but not sure how that translates into my potential use).  I'm a bigger than average guy at 6'2 220 lbs and would not want to get a mini only to find that it screams "GET OFF!!".  

 

So I'm posting here to see if there is any further pricing or availability news as well as any other updated info others might want to provide. 

Thanks again for your informative review and responses.

You definitely want to get the Mini Pro version with your size and weight, the cheaper Mini made for the Chinese market is made for people under 180lbs. Seriously consider the Ninebot One though, personally I think they are far more enjoyable to ride and you get a much more positive reaction from strangers who see you riding. The learning curve is worth it.

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I want one too. You might need to look overseas, American dealers just can't seem to a hold of these, even the claimed US ninebot distributer (ninebotus.com) have nothing on hand, but what they have posted like only the Asian version, scratch that they don't list anything now. Personally, I don't get it. On top of that the pro is way overpriced compared to 'basic' model, it is kind of bizarre what is going on... China is really sticking the knife in the back on this one, but just as long you keep buying the flamethrowing fireboards, I mean hooverboads...

The difference is not all that great, asian model was supposed to only have 236 wh battery but I seen it being sold with 310 wh battery of the 'pro', watch out for that! Pro has (2x) 400 w motors vs (2x) 350 w motors, OK some what different, obviously you want 400 w, but how different is it? Then there is the removable and extendable control arm of the pro vs fixed arm, big difference, but is it worth $500-1500 more??? 

Even xiaomi has a 'pre-order' at a good price but has the 210 wh battery not the 310 wh... http://nis-store.com/electric-scooters/xiaomi-ninebot-mini-self-balancing-scooter-black/

Ok I filled form on Segway site for dealer location and info, to see who actually is carrying what. Probably only the pro, but what price?

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Before buying MINI (not PRO), learn whether it will be able to be activated from telephone number of the app out of China. I have information that for the termination of sales abroad of cheap MINI for overseas, they have turned off function of activation of the scooter from foreign telephone numbers for the scooters made since March 20

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The sales of the mini pro in conjunction with Ninebot's buy of Segway is beginning to feel like the marketing staff of Segway wants to muck with the price point so it doesn't make their product look so OVERPRICED.There may be additional testing and certifications required for valid US SALES through Segway dealers as opposed to 1 - 2 units exported in for sparse catalog sales - so I can see some premium in the price.  Given the price of the Ninebot e+ $950 - $1000 doesn't seem too out of line, but compared to the standard mini, just seems magic numbers from marketing/sales teams trying to squeeze $$$.

Good to know about the telephone activation. 

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Segways $6000 price was always a deal breaker for me and they never once dropped a dollar less. It was pretty sad the day the mini was announced price of $315, the idiot should have been fired, that day. On top of that they basically stated only Asia market would get that price and the rest of the world will pay four time that at $1200.I have no idea why any one at ninebot thought this was a great idea, and who knew what type of production is actually going on to supply the World with '$315' wheels...probably small scale productions like any electric unicycle deal...problem is, there are a 'hunderd' ue's but only one mini....

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be careful with shopping), many fakes, but they are cheaper than the original, and go the same way)

 

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I don't know why Segways should still cost that much ($6000). Now the sensors are cheaper by many folds...like $5 bucks instead of $500 in 2001. A robust real Segway ( not NB mini types) under $2000 is more affordable. We don't see many marketing dollars wasted on advertising it so where is all that $6000 going into? 

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On 15. April 2016 at 6:06 PM, Planetpapi said:

I don't know why Segways should still cost that much ($6000). Now the sensors are cheaper by many folds...like $5 bucks instead of $500 in 2001. A robust real Segway ( not NB mini types) under $2000 is more affordable. We don't see many marketing dollars wasted on advertising it so where is all that $6000 going into? 

The Segway is The only Electric vehicle with One thing:

redundancy!

if anything fails...You Are Not going to faceplant like with Ninebot Elite or other 2 wheelers...

the Segway just Stopps in 10 seconds and gives Alarm!

everything in it is Double secured: Batterie, mainboard, Motors....

thats why it's so outstanding expensive....but also outstanding Safe!

On 9. April 2016 at 9:08 PM, Дмитрий Дмитрий said:

be careful with shopping), many fakes, but they are cheaper than the original, and go the same way)

 

mini2.jpg

mini1.jpg

ofd1gb.jpeg

18rhehi.jpeg

18883mk.jpeg

1mt9y33.jpeg

1kaypqn.jpeg

Haha...

got some links to it???

i try to search but find nothing.....

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