GothamMike Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Given the global shortages, what are you all stocking up on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 why, toilet paper. Of course! For whatever reason, we run out of toilet paper first. And it's not like we don't have a huge paper mill down the road because we do—although they make baby diapers mostly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniBlab Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 You'd look cute in baby diapers (I've been told). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 The panic buying of toilet buying was so strange. Seems that people all around the world had the same thought. Had people fighting in supermarkets over toilet paper. Paper hand towels, tissues, moist wipes.... it was all being rushed off the shelves. Commercially available toilet paper from 1857. What were people using before then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Paul A said: Commercially available toilet paper from 1857. What were people using before then? Junk mail telling them their car warranty is about to expire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) On 10/5/2021 at 6:50 AM, Paul A said: What were people using before then? Rhubarb leaves, naturally, since they already made pie from the stems. But in terms of what to stock up right now? EUCs! Edited October 6, 2021 by mrelwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, mrelwood said: Rhubarb leaves, naturally, since they already made pie from the stems. So THAT'S why you're not supposed to eat the leaves… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 What to stock up on: Basic: Being prepared is sometimes better than stocking up. If you have a generator, does it work and do you have gas? Cooking, do you have fuel? Heating, do you have a backup? ( wood or gas ) Long term food cheap: Five gallons of rice is inexpensive and lasts a very long time. Noodles are also inexpensive. Either could make up for 75% of your diet needs in a pinch and can be soaked instead of cooked. Most rural homes unintentionally have a months worth of food. When my daughters were young they would complain, “there is nothing to eat!” I would reply, “ That’s only because you are not hungry enough.” Other needs: What do you absolutely need over the next few months? What do you have that you need and it is on its last leg? Computer chips: phones, computers, or basic, chargers. What do you order every month that would shut you down if you did not have it? With all of the China problems, COVID, shipping and …. Aggressions, I would expect to lose China as a supplier. That means no more Black Crow stands. Sure they make filament here in the US but it is not very strong. All of the US suppliers make pretty filament that prints real nice and is not strong. ( FilaCube - distorts quickly , 3D fuel - very weak, separates) So China does something right. No worries, Black Crow is a hobby company that puts customers first. It is not a needed personal income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothamMike Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 22 hours ago, RockyTop said: What to stock up on: Basic: Being prepared is sometimes better than stocking up. If you have a generator, does it work and do you have gas? Cooking, do you have fuel? Heating, do you have a backup? ( wood or gas ) Long term food cheap: Five gallons of rice is inexpensive and lasts a very long time. Noodles are also inexpensive. Either could make up for 75% of your diet needs in a pinch and can be soaked instead of cooked. Most rural homes unintentionally have a months worth of food. When my daughters were young they would complain, “there is nothing to eat!” I would reply, “ That’s only because you are not hungry enough.” Other needs: What do you absolutely need over the next few months? What do you have that you need and it is on its last leg? Computer chips: phones, computers, or basic, chargers. What do you order every month that would shut you down if you did not have it? With all of the China problems, COVID, shipping and …. Aggressions, I would expect to lose China as a supplier. That means no more Black Crow stands. Sure they make filament here in the US but it is not very strong. All of the US suppliers make pretty filament that prints real nice and is not strong. ( FilaCube - distorts quickly , 3D fuel - very weak, separates) So China does something right. No worries, Black Crow is a hobby company that puts customers first. It is not a needed personal income. I expect EUCs and parts to dwindle to nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Canned goods of all sorts Ramen & pasta noodles Canned & bottled water Condiments / salad dressing - which can double as cooking oil Matches & lighters Cleaning materials / rubbing alcohol / hydrogen peroxide. We also keep a month supply bucket of instant rations for each family member. We also fire up and let our generators run for a while every 3 weeks (I found that I needed to replace the spark plug on my big one during my last check.) We have fire season, earthquakes and PG&E so we have no choice but to prepare the best that we can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Smith Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Adding to what has already been suggested - Practical foot wear, functional clothing, basic building supplies (screws, nails, timber, bags of ready mix, Roofing steel, sheets of ply etc). Cordage, light bulbs, swimming pool shock treatment for water treatment (stores better than bleach), first aid supplies, pain killers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Eisenman Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/6/2021 at 10:02 AM, RockyTop said: If you have a generator, does it work and do you have gas? https://news.yahoo.com/california-law-bans-small-off-174600432.html I read yesterday that small gas engines are to be illegal in the state of California. "California law bans small off-road gas engines, including lawnmowers and chainsaws" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) They might be able to do that in a state where the grass does not grow. I would have pine and maple trees 6 foot tall in 3 months here. ……. I bought the biggest electric mower Lowe’s has. I have to change it 7 times to cut my front yard. The grass grows quicker than the batteries can charge. Edited October 11, 2021 by RockyTop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 12 hours ago, gon2fast said: We also fire up and let our generators run for a while every 3 weeks Having a confirmed working generator a sure recipe for ensuring that the power NEVER goes out. At least around here anyway—we consider it a preventive measure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Eisenman Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, RockyTop said: They might be able to do that in a state where the grass does not grow. With big agriculture and big population density, water is a problem for California. Food Grows Where Water Flows | California Farm Water Coalition I read that southern California gets its water from over 240 miles away Colorado River Aqueduct - Wikipedia "where the grass does not grow" I wouldn't want to live 24/7 near the refinery district Google Earth The professors in college teach about the hazards of 'ringed' carbon compunds that result from refining (distilling and fractionating) crude oil. Benzene (6 carbon ring) Benzene - Wikipedia and other cancer causing ringed compounds 'intercalate' (fit in between) stacked bases in the DNA. This interferes with DNA replication and causes increased cancer risk. Benzene and Cancer Risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RockyTop Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 @Bob Eisenman As I live in an area that never dries out I forget the need for drinking water. I have two natural springs on a small plot of land with creeks and rivers in every direction. It is hard to think of a place that gets its water from 100s of miles away. …. Scary! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanghamP Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 10:41 AM, RockyTop said: They might be able to do that in a state where the grass does not grow. I would have pine and maple trees 6 foot tall in 3 months here. ……. I bought the biggest electric mower Lowe’s has. I have to change it 7 times to cut my front yard. The grass grows quicker than the batteries can charge. Due mostly to natural disaster insurance claims have increased by about 30 times since 1990, I think humans are living in very difficult places to live without modern technology such as air conditioning, power, and flood control. That is, climate change, suburban sprawl, and population increase has resulted in humans moving into more places that really they shouldn't. So whatever humans are doing, they should do the opposite of, or at least less of. Death by pollution and willful ignorance seems a really stupid way for our race to die off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Tools and ammo. Tools to work the land and ammo to hunt. I live where theres water, mild climate, trees and animals. Even more valuable, where there are still older generations that could assist in the knowledge of how to survive. You know, BEFORE tech got people to forget that water and livable climates are a thing of value. We also stock up on ways to prevent the overrun of our local resources by those that flee their areas. All houses out here have canned goods, rice, flours, spices, salts, chlorine, fuel, firewood and personal protection. MOST also have land that can converted to farming use for plants and or animals. Generators are NOT a long term solution. There are a few stills out here that could make fuel, but beasts of burden will be the norm on a long enough timeline. Batteries, solar panels and generators will quit working, LONG before the horses, cattle and donkeys do.. Edited October 16, 2021 by ShanesPlanet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 The US is only about 330 million and the superpower of the world. Not sure any global shortages are going to be so severe that people in the US are going to have to resort to survival mode.... Not sure people from the cities are going to get so desperate that they have to flee cities and try to over run rural towns to survive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Paul A said: The US is only about 330 million and the superpower of the world. Not sure any global shortages are going to be so severe that people in the US are going to have to resort to survival mode.... Not sure people from the cities are going to get so desperate that they have to flee cities and try to over run rural towns to survive. I hope you are right. I'm betting that having a few months of food and water, along wtih ability to survive local climate for a little while, is all it should take. Surely any HUGE shortages will be sorted out before too long. I don't suppose billions of people will sit idly by and not find some form of solutions... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Country people are definitely more tougher, resilient, self sufficient, resourceful than city dwellers. Rural farmers have to be multi skilled in so many areas. City dwellers can rely on so many others for everything. Even with a worldwide pandemic affecting work forces, global logistic supply chains, shipping container shortages, millions of fatalities, etc. First and second world wars created shortages with rationing. Artificial toilet paper shortage was panic buying and hoarding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Paul A said: Country people are definitely more tougher, resilient, self sufficient, resourceful than city dwellers. Rural farmers have to be multi skilled in so many areas. City dwellers can rely on so many others for everything. Absolutely!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) We're advised to not forget our pets... keep a stock of their meds, their food etc. My pea brain went straight to "cat litter" because the cat isn't medicated and if it's hungry it'll eat people food. But he's an indoor only cat (humane society where we got him will repossess him if we let him out, it's in the paperwork) so litter is pretty essential and the stuff I use is some sort of special clay mined in Utah I think. Then I remembered I live by a beach and sand will work. HUGE load off my mind. I had to chuckle at myself. Don't forget that home canning is a skill that hasn't been lost to many rural dwellers—I suspect we'll have riots in the streets if the organic arugula goes wilty. Did you know a mason jar can be used for something other than party punch and candles? Edited October 17, 2021 by Tawpie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tawpie said: We're advised to not forget our pets... keep a stock of their meds, their food etc. My pea brain went straight to "cat litter" because the cat isn't medicated and if it's hungry it'll eat people food. But he's an indoor only cat (humane society where we got him will repossess him if we let him out, it's in the paperwork) so litter is pretty essential and the stuff I use is some sort of special clay mined in Utah I think. Then I remembered I live by a beach and sand will work. HUGE load off my mind. I had to chuckle at myself. Don't forget that home canning is a skill that hasn't been lost to many rural dwellers—I suspect we'll have riots in the streets if the organic arugula goes wilty. Did you know a mason jar can be used for something other than party punch and candles? I forced our cat to never use a litterbox. My wife swore the cat would crap all over the house. Well, it took 1 or two accidents and fear of King Shane, and now our cat meows at the door when he needs let out. If a dumbass bulldog can figure it out.... Tis a trick I learned in college, when it was a choice between litterbox or ramen noodles. How funny, you didnt realize that you live on one of the largest 'litterboxes' around. How odd the "humane" society would prefer put a cat back on death row, than allow it go outside. You know, cuz death by needle is SO much better than the possibility of any another accident. Our cat is 13 now. He enjoys sitting outside and staring at the newly moved in hippies in busses. The coyotes get loud at times and he doesnt climb trees. I can only assume that he's not much a snack so itll probably be a good ole heart attack that get him. Regardless, he's of nearly no concern as he'll eat wtfe he finds, if times get tough. Bastard won't share a damn thing he kills tho. Mason Jars are great for canning and moonshine. There was panic for a while tho. It aint the jars we worry about, its the lids! Mason jars outlive humans sometimes. Its those pesky lids that need replaced each "canning". Out in these parts, you may find the most odd things in mason jars. 90% of the time, its inteded for eat or drink, tho you'd never guessed it. Soak things in vinegar long enough, you can eat it. Don't believe me... pickled pigs feet aint a myth.. As for meds... Gallons of unopened whiskey seem to store pretty well too! Oddly enough, once you open a gallon of whiskey meds, EVERYONE seems to come down with a mild cough... Edited October 17, 2021 by ShanesPlanet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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