Veteran Sherman firmware 1.0.56 vs 1.0.58 Pedal dip (or any riding feel) changes? Now tested

[DjPanJan]

What are your impressions of the impact of the firmware on the driving characteristics of FW1.0.58.
I mean subjective evaluation because officially nothing has changed that would affect the pedal dip acceleration or braking.

After update to 1.0.58 i can say here is diference in riding "feel" for me wery positive way.

Straight after update (i not calibrate level yet) and my first ride on new FW with knobby tire 28PSI diference is big great job Veteran company now is sherman worth XXX dollars more .

I have my "test 5km circuit" where i testing PSI, pedal adjustment ,riding modes, "track" include inclines and many types of surface and roundabout for dip testing.

Positives:

Firmware   1.0.58 is definetly harder in medium mode now is wery close to gotway medium mode or KS16X hard mode this mean you can acelerate more efortless. Simply say aceleration curve is stronger. Sherman is more nimble.

Important thing whan need to be say on every mainboard revision FW can be diferent feel this is just FACT confirmed by testing Ks16X on board revisions 1.4 vs 1.5 where FW 1.05 was great on revision 1.4 and very bad on revison board 1.5 Same be propably on sherman and board revisions think about this before comment!

Pedal DIP:

My original FW was 1.0.56 and comapre to this Pedal dip on 1.0.58 have hudge improvents in long inclines and sharp turning too is strong change on ALL modes soft/medium/hard

Pedal hardnes:

Pedal is harder definetly medium mode is like/almost medium on MSP 2500W or hard mode on KS16X what is big improvement for me and something i wish many time sherman be like this.

PA:

PA pedal i ride before was PA +1 this mean now PA+3 but if i use PA adjustment sherman lost efortless aceleration what gain on PA +0 this is subjective but this is what i feel and my testing always end this results.

Negatives:

Braking is same like on 1.0.56 or little worse i canot decide if is downgrade or upgrade becasue  when i break intensively pedals dip under presure very deep to level where i am close to fall behind. Veteran sherman have speed motor we(riders) must acept this becasue is just fact. This is subjective and i am very heavy rider 260lbs +-120kg with gear this is on edge technical spec what sherman have this must be write here for fair play and i compare braking to MSP2500W or KS16X where i never experience braking pedal DIP. (on FW 1.0.56 i have 2 falls to my ass becasue braking dip on sherman both in low speed)

Speculative: 

After my test circuit when i check data in eucworld i realize on inclines where normaly eucworld report 6000W now report 4000W and all AMP numbers is lover compared to numbers on 1.0.56. Motor sound in inclines is little diferent but strugle vibration in same when i am around 3500W+ reported power.

Results:

Im happy i do this upgrade over my fear and risk brick sherman for me is many positives and this is what i want long time make sherman more efortless to ride.

Personlay i think this FW and update tool is LEAK and hope this firmware is safe for public use/to ride now i have big anxiety ride this FW1.0.58 becasue i have strong PTSD after my asphalt faceplant on MSP HT in 30+miles(55km/h) becasue i overlean EUC. My sherman speed limit/tiltback is 43km/h (25miles) im not aceleration/speed demon anymore.

Edited July 23, 2021 by DjPanJan
Change topic name + fix Czechglish

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I havent noticed any change in pedal dip. I have noticed my pa adjustments are different now. I also notice that MAYBE the sherman is acting a little odd in how it levels itslelf. I ride up and down a small incline street and sometimes up and down a steep driveway. At one point today, it felt like the sherman was taking a LONG time to level itself back out, after transitioning from a steep decline road to a more level road. It could just be me, but it did SEEM to take near 100yrds to level itslelf as normally would take 20' or less. I also notiiced my bubble level was showing near level at one point and after i hand rolled it a few feet, it was showing 3degree rear tilt. This happened a few moments after it was powered up. I power cycled it a few times and that problem stopped.

WHo knows, Im too busy trying to ignore oddities, so I can enjoy my ride. It aint like I'm not used to how the EUC world works and what we consider acceptable. Aside from the battery adjustment, i dont see any real gains so far. If one wasnt going to properly check voltage with a meter, to make a valid battery adjustment, I dont know if I'd bother risk the ota update just yet. I mean, who the hell needs a billion tilt adjustments on a machine that seems to vary in operation in a wider fashion than the new adjustments are apart? Tbh, i find it a pita to scroll thru so many stupid pa settings.

Edited July 23, 2021 by ShanesPlanet

[Chriull]

On 7/16/2021 at 3:06 PM, DjPanJan said:

After my test circuit when i check data in eucworld i realize on inclines where normaly eucworld report 6000W now report 4000W and all AMP numbers is lover compared to numbers on 1.0.56.

I assume you took both numbers with new EUC World versions? As you know, presumable better than me, euc world now reports as standard current (calculated/estimated) battery current. Which gives more realistic, lower values.

[Dreygun]

Your comparison to 16x ride characteristics is my exact thoughts. 💯

[DjPanJan]

1 minute ago, Chriull said:

I assume you took both numbers with new EUC World versions? As you know, presumable better than me, euc world now reports as standard current (calculated/estimated) battery current. Which gives more realistic, lower values.

Yes i understand what you think this change make many my test obsolete but i like more real numbers great work what Seba make.

I compare same version logs  eucworld (2.7) i plan digging deep into logs when i find more time now i focus/propritize on change/adjust my peak curent and curent alarm for my ticwatchpro 2018 for safety riding. I try extract log data on 1.0.56 on same place but this i can done in weekend i expect. 

Time in log 18:25:35 is exactly before bigest incline (stone road to est. 14th century curch on top hill) if you make one of you sexy graph in this incline i be happy becasue im wery bad user excel software etc. and this judge me work with raw data only always.

Here is last one "tested 1.0.5.8" 

https://euc.world/tour/600352253167199

 

 

EUC data 2021-07-22 182052.csv