Besides slowing down, is there any way to get rid of this...

[Guest d0n]

... annoying beeping! My ks16s tops out at 22mph so I cranked the speed alarms (on EUCw) up to 25mph thinking they'd not come on anymore but nothing changed. They still come on often.

Thanks

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Edited July 15, 2021 by d0n

[RockyTop]

Gosh I hope not! When your KS16s beeps too much it is time to get a faster more powerful wheel. ....... or face plant. It is telling you that it is about to hit the ground because you have maxed it out. GotWay let’s you turn off the beep and you can bump against the tilt but not KS

Edited July 15, 2021 by RockyTop

[Guest d0n]

When it's beeping 3 times or continuously, I'm not pushing it for more speed. I'm trying to ride it on the fine line of its top speed and before the tilt-back kicks in. I don't think that's unsafe or I'm going to faceplant myself? I could be wrong and find out the hard way I suppose. 

I'm trying to get a faster wheel but the V12 ship dates have been pushed back to september now and who knows if they'll really ship then? 

I keep telling myself that this wheel is dangerous because it's so slow and keeps tilting me back. The last thing anyone needs is to have their balance upset by a tilt-back at 22mph. 

I can't ride this for 2-3 more months. I guess I need to find a 40mph+ wheel that's in stock now. Anyone know of one? 

Edited July 15, 2021 by d0n

[mrelwood]

50 minutes ago, d0n said:

I cranked the speed alarms (on EUCw)

What can be confusing is that EUCW controls both the wheel’s speed and alarm settings as well as the app’s own warnings that play only from the phone itself. Either way, the max speed limit (on other than GW wheels) comes with a tone you can’t remove. For a very good reason I might add.

 There are several reasons why the top speed of the 16S is only 22mph, just as there are for the annoying beeps that keep riders from riding at the max speed tilt-back. The wheel has the least amount of power available for balancing at that point, some even dangerously little, such as the 16X. You are right, you need a new wheel.

16 minutes ago, d0n said:

The last thing anyone needs is to have their balance upset by a tilt-back at 22mph. 

No, the last thing anyone needs is to faceplant because the wheel didn’t stop the rider from reaching the motor’s maximum rotational speed. At that point you don’t need a pot hole to faceplant, the wheel will just stop balancing even on a smooth flat pavement.

25 minutes ago, d0n said:

I need to find a 40mph+ wheel that's in stock now. Anyone know of one? 

All (and only) 18+ inch Gotways/Begodes and the Sherman. I’m sure there are some models in stock at any GW/BG dealer.

If 40mph is just a number you thought up for example for being “surely more than enough”, there are a few things I want to point out. The jump from 22mph to 40mph is absolutely monumental. If 60mph is not enough for your car, you probably don’t need one that goes 120mph, as 90mph would probably do just fine. Many EUC models top out at 32mph, and like many others, I’ve found that my personal max speed is around 30mph, so these 32mph wheels already go a bit faster than I need.

Secondly, if you decide that you definitely need a 40+ mph EUC, you limit yourself to buying from a brand that makes the lowest quality and the most uncomfortable wheels available. Or if you go with the Sherman, you’ll get the second heaviest EUC available, exactly twice as heavy as your 16S.

Either way, a 40+ mph requirement is very limiting. If that’s what you really do need, then go with it! But if you are not sure, I suggest you think about the 32mph wheels as well.

[Surfling]

earplugs...

[Guest d0n]

49 minutes ago, mrelwood said:

You are right, you need a new wheel. Either way, a 40+ mph requirement is very limiting. If that’s what you really do need, then go with it! But if you are not sure, I suggest you think about the 32mph wheels as well.

Thanks for your input. I just don't want to end up like the guy @PourUC on the recent "chasing speed" post. He thought a 32mph wheel would be enough but in a fairly short time, he's bored and looking to upgrade. 

Edited July 15, 2021 by d0n

[RockyTop]

The 16s is pretty robust for what it is. The wheel puts a lot of calculating into when to beep and keep you safe. It is best to just trust the beeps and get a faster wheel. I will say this. If you are used to ignoring the beeps on the 16s I do not suggest doing the same on the 16X. The 16X does not have nearly the same amount of headroom. It is too easy to face plant before the beep. Learning to ride on the 16s actually gave too much faith in other wheel when close to the beep. 
 

1 hour ago, d0n said:

I just don't want to end up like the guy @PourUC on the recent "chasing speed" post.

I understand, ...... I remember when 18mph was fast, now 30mph is slow. 

I remember when I could get work as a supermodel. After a few face plants, I can only get work in horror films. 

[Guest d0n]

HAHA ! Horror movies are ok too. 

I figured if I'm going to wait until early fall or late for a wheel, I might as well be waiting for the Sherman. So, I changed my deposit from the V12 to the Sherman just now. 

Ewheels said they have the s18 ($2k) and v11 ($2100) in stock & shippable today but those aren't 40mph wheels. I don't want to have to upgrade again in a few months. 

[mrelwood]

2 hours ago, d0n said:

Thanks for your input. I just don't want to end up like the guy @PourUC on the recent "chasing speed" post. He thought a 32mph wheel would be enough but in a fairly short time, he's bored and looking to upgrade. 

This is something that is a bit hard to predict. The preferred max speed seems to depend on past hobbies, age, locale, personality, among others.

There are people who wish that the next gen wheels will go even faster than the Sherman. For them it will never end, and 50mph will start to feel slow if they keep looking for smooth, flat and long pavement stretches where they could go even faster. Soon they’ll be renting a race car track and complain that 60mph is way too slow.

 But if you live in a city where EUCs ride among bicycles, you may have a hard time ever reaching even 30mph.

 And if you ride off-road, all this talk is completely pointless. Us off-roaders will never get bored for lack of speed!

 So this one is impossible for others to answer, I’m sorry. Personally I do feel that if 32mph on this new genre of self-balancing unicycles is not enough, the underlying issue is somewhere else than in the speed itself. As you said yourself, you couldn’t have imagined for the 16S to be too slow. Maybe there were remains of reason in that belief? 

[mrelwood]

 

4 minutes ago, d0n said:

I don't want to have to upgrade again in a few months. 

Let me ask you these: What other requirements do you have for your new EUC? What do you want to do with it? Where do you ride? How long have you ridden the 16S?

[RockyTop]

I love the s18. If you ever want to switch from a speed seeking thrasher to a calm cruiser the s18 is the way to go. I switched from the MSX 100v to the s18 and now I am ready for more speed. I just got a Sherman. 

[Guest d0n]

mrelwood this picture might help to explain. In 1999 when the suzuki hayabusa came out it was the fastest production street bike ever made. It blew the competition away so bad that it took years for them to catch up. I needed one!

Anyway... in 2000, I bought a new one. It was amazing. 

 

[RockyTop]

@mrelwoodIn the US it seems that I am always stuck going 12mph or 30mph. No in between. You are either on “recreational bike paths” or in car traffic. The S18 can actually go 30mph and 30mph seems to be 30mph not 27mph. However the s18 can’t do it for long. The batteries sag. 

[Guest d0n]

3 minutes ago, mrelwood said:

 

Let me ask you these: What other requirements do you have for your new EUC? What do you want to do with it? Where do you ride? How long have you ridden the 16S?

Honestly, I have just 120 miles +/- on my 1st EUC. That's in about 30 days of ownership. In that time, I didn't ride for a week or so because it was too hot out. 

I currently ride in smaller neighborhoods with almost no traffic and on the silver comet trail. I wouldn't mind riding in downtown Atlanta IN CITY TRAFFIC once I get more miles under my belt and a more stable/faster wheel. I don't see me riding offroad except for maybe a dirt road now and then while camping. 

Ideally, my EUC would be too fast for me to comfortably go. I want to be scared of its potential but be able to work towards it over time. It should also have louder music capabilities than my ks16s which I can hardly hear while riding. 

[RockyTop]

@mrelwoodAnd we have these things called hills here ..........   

[RockyTop]

2 minutes ago, d0n said:

Honestly, I have just 120 miles +/- on my 1st EUC. That's in about 30 days of ownership. In that time, I didn't ride for a week or so because it was too hot out. 

I currently ride in smaller neighborhoods with almost no traffic and on the silver comet trail. I wouldn't mind riding in downtown Atlanta IN CITY TRAFFIC once I get more miles under my belt and a more stable/faster wheel. I don't see me riding offroad except for maybe a dirt road now and then while camping. 

Ideally, my EUC would be too fast for me to comfortably go. I want to be scared of its potential but be able to work towards it over time. It should also have louder music capabilities than my ks16s which I can hardly hear while riding. 

Hay!!! You can get from Alabama to the Stone Mountain park on bike trials. I got lost twice but I did it. I can’t remember. It was 120- 140 miles? I agree with @mrelwood completely yet the Sherman gets the mileage advantage. 

[Guest d0n]

rockytop I wanna try that trip someday! 

[mrelwood]

2 hours ago, d0n said:

Ideally, my EUC would be too fast for me to comfortably go.

That’s the thing with speed, you get used to it, no matter if it’s 20mph or 50mph.

 Anyway, owning a Busa and to take just 3 weeks to get bored with 16S does indeed look like 32mph would get old in a month. You crave for speed thrills. Then you just have to choose between GW and Sherman. 

A few more things I’d like to mention: Emergency braking on an EUC must be practiced, otherwise you’ll just get the worst of wobbles. There are techniques that prevent the wobbles, you’ll need to choose and practice the one that feels natural and sensible to you.

An EUC crash is usually worse than a MC crash at the same speed. We fall from taller heights. The only way to really limit the damage is to wear proper gear. Their importance grows by the square as the speed increases.

[Guest d0n]

Thanks guys. I changed my $500 deposit from the V12 to the VS (& sent another $500) today. I figure if I'm going to wait... might as well be for the VS. I'll give up the music capability but that's OK. I can put an ultimate ears boom2 speaker in an external, mesh drink holder of my backpack. It'll probably sound better than any EUC BT speaker/s. 

I'll keep the ks16s for friends to ride. I've started teaching a friend recently. 

 

 

Edited July 15, 2021 by d0n

[RockyTop]

2 hours ago, d0n said:

rockytop I wanna try that trip someday! 

It is a Challenge. It helps to have a good backpack and several fast chargers. With a little DIY you can add charge taps to each battery pack. ( 4 packs on the Sherman)  This lets you change each pack directly. The wires can’t handle the charge at a single point. It takes research and double checking load rates for the wires and battery capabilities. I have not done the math on the Sherman yet. With this mod you can quick charge at restaurants. 

 

[Guest d0n]

I rented a KS 18L from a local EUC'er. It'll do 31 so I'm good for a while. COME ON SHERMAN... SHIP ALREADY! 

I hit 27mph on it today. I'll be riding the tiltback soon enough I suspect.