zeroSIXzero Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Am I understanding it correctly thet there is a black controllerboard working for MSX84 volt? All MSP are 100volt... are they not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbolest Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, zeroSIXzero said: Am I understanding it correctly thet there is a black controllerboard working for MSX84 volt? All MSP are 100volt... are they not? All of the boards Begode is making right now use the same hardware no matter the voltage. The biggest limiting factor is the voltage rating on the big Capacitors, and the ones used for the 100v systems can also be used for the 84v systems (just not the other way around).The only real difference between the boards now is the firmware. As evidence, I just received a new black board for my 84v Monster, complete with the 168v caps used in the modern 100v wheels where traditionally Gotway/Begode has always used 100v caps for 84v systems because they cost less. Edited August 3, 2021 by Arbolest 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thendless Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Received my black motherboard last week for my MCM5 V2. One thing I noticed is that there is an extra 4 pin connector, looking at the other black motherboards I believe it is for the LCD display that is being installed on some newer models like the Tesla T3. I wonder if this will be added in the next version of the MCM5 or it was just easier to include it in all new motherboards? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RagingGrandpa Posted August 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) Small update: I noticed in this modern Gotway firmware that low-battery tiltback is a lower voltage than before: 3.25 V/cell I observed tiltback start at 64.9V for my 84V EUC. So a touch lower than the old 'Gotway standard' 3.3V. Fine.@Chriull@Seba Edited October 21, 2021 by RagingGrandpa 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroSIXzero Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/3/2021 at 1:09 PM, Arbolest said: All of the boards Begode is making right now use the same hardware no matter the voltage. The biggest limiting factor is the voltage rating on the big Capacitors, and the ones used for the 100v systems can also be used for the 84v systems (just not the other way around).The only real difference between the boards now is the firmware. As evidence, I just received a new black board for my 84v Monster, complete with the 168v caps used in the modern 100v wheels where traditionally Gotway/Begode has always used 100v caps for 84v systems because they cost less. And from whom did you buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbolest Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 hours ago, zeroSIXzero said: And from whom did you buy it? I got mine from eWheels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augus Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I have RS C38 black motherboard and when I'm going to update firmware I see 2 updates, 'RS C38' and 'RS C38 accelerated stability'. Which one do you recommend? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Augus said: I have RS C38 black motherboard and when I'm going to update firmware I see 2 updates, 'RS C38' and 'RS C38 accelerated stability'. Which one do you recommend? try both, it's rider preference and depends what mode you ride most c38 stock is more like gotway classic accelerated stability keep more the pedal flat, rise them when you accelerate and lower them when you brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augus Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco_LUE Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Any of you has updated his black motherboard though the app? In affirmative case, which wheel model? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augus Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) RS C38 Edited November 5, 2021 by Augus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 11:13 AM, Paco_LUE said: Any of you has updated his black motherboard though the app? In affirmative case, which wheel model? Thanks! lot of boards for me and my friends : mcm5 RS EXN EX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Ryder Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 6:13 AM, Paco_LUE said: Any of you has updated his black motherboard though the app? In affirmative case, which wheel model? Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Paul Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 10/17/2021 at 12:08 PM, EMA said: try both, it's rider preference and depends what mode you ride most c38 stock is more like gotway classic accelerated stability keep more the pedal flat, rise them when you accelerate and lower them when you brake sorry to revive this old thread, but do you mean for accelerated stability your toes or heels will raise? just confused with knowing what is rising or falling. And is it roughly the same behavior on all ride modes? any new observations or opinions about 'accelerated stability' versus the classic gotway tuning we all know? I'm just hesitant to play with the firmware before I know what I'm doing. Whatever can go wrong will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conecones Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, Denny Paul said: sorry to revive this old thread, but do you mean for accelerated stability your toes or heels will raise? just confused with knowing what is rising or falling. And is it roughly the same behavior on all ride modes? any new observations or opinions about 'accelerated stability' versus the classic gotway tuning we all know? I'm just hesitant to play with the firmware before I know what I'm doing. Whatever can go wrong will. Accelerated Stability is the new behaviour where the front of the pedal will rise as you push into it. This seems to counter pedal dips while accelerating out of corners. It will also raise the back of the pedal when you brake - this is actually detrimental to braking because you lose braking leverage the harder you brake. Having pedals calibrated 1-2 degrees tilted back helps. At first it is a very weird feeling if you're used to the old firmware. I even thought my wheel was defective when the pedals went up and down like crazy when you push hard on them. Got used to it eventually and doesn't bother me much when switching between wheels now. IMO worth the change for less pedal dipping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangeruss Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Anyone installed this board on a monster V3? For some reason my fan Bluetooth speaker and lights aren't working correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 @Dangeruss - probably not a "black board" specific problem... some percentage of all controllers have manufacturing defects and are dead on arrival. If you've got a brand new board, connected properly, and a known-working fan won't turn on (e.g.: if you gently warm the board past 50°C with a hair dryer), you should contact your vendor and request a replacement. It happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbolest Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Dangeruss said: Anyone installed this board on a monster V3? For some reason my fan Bluetooth speaker and lights aren't working correctly. I have indeed! It works perfectly for me. Based on your symptoms, it sounds like the DC-DC converter board (the small one off to the side) may either be inoperable, damaged, or incorrectly connected (ribbon cable not seated properly). Verify that the ribbon cable coming from the main control board is seated properly on both ends, and if it is then definitely follow the suggestion from @RagingGrandpa and contact your vendor! Good luck and keep us posted! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGiroquoi Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Just got a new black board for my 84v Nikola and anyone could help me identify where I plug those cables?? They didn't send my any layout instructions Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Eric plam said: help me identify where I plug those cables?? These connector colors are standard across all of today's Gotway boards, even if their positions on the board vary from model to model: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGiroquoi Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, RagingGrandpa said: These connector colors are standard across all of today's Gotway boards, even if their positions on the board vary from model to model: Thanks. But see my photos. I'm one cable left, plugged in a yellow connector, but no yellow in my new board... Wires are a bit thicker than the others.. https://photos.app.goo.gl/hSc9s7NoCmgZUBCj8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Eric plam said: see my photos. I'm one cable left I think it's the Nikola headlight. Better prove it- leave it disconnected, and check that everything else works with your new board. It should go in the 2nd-from-the-right white receptacle on your new board, next to the jumpered-out connector. Perhaps they ran out of yellow connectors in your batch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansolo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 New question... I'm considering repurposing a black MSP controller for use in an MSuper RS, by installing the controller onto the RS heatsink. The controller mounting is turned 90° in RS, so MSP firmware won't work of course. Can I just load RS firmware to the MSP board?Has anyone tried this sort of crossflashing? @Freestyler do you know? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freestyler Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Yeap, it can be done with some trickery. Already done it for several people. But, from what I remember your board was not flashable even though it's black. Is that right? You can confirm by connecting to euc dash and checking the firmware version (or lack thereof). 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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